Miss RKO
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Post by Miss RKO on Mar 29, 2009 8:02:28 GMT -5
i blame the financial crisis and terrorism. I blame Boris Johnson
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Post by darthpipes on Mar 29, 2009 8:52:11 GMT -5
If Vinnie Mac wants to stay in the movie business, then he's either got to have future releases on straight-to-DVD or let Cena star in some real studio films like The Rock did. If Micromanager Vince is controlling these low-budget trash films, they have no shot for wide releases.
I'm sure this won't stop WWE Studios from doing their next John Cena film, where he'll likely play a firefighter whose girlfriend is kidnapped...
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randomranter
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Post by randomranter on Mar 29, 2009 9:04:47 GMT -5
Read the reviews on rottentomatoes. Even the "favorable" reviews don't exactly do the movie any favors.
That said, I still believe that the WWE could put out a cinematic masterpiece that could make William Shakespeare seem like an internet blogger and Gone with the Wind look like a high school film project. And the reviewers and general public would still crap all over it.
Vince has got to understand that there's almost no chance in hell that they're going to be taken seriously in the movie business. The *instant* that they see "WWE Films" or "Starring <insert wrestler here>", the film is done for, no matter how good or bad it is.
I remember reading somewhere that they're going to transition over to straight-to-DVD at one point, which may or may not be better for them (Behind Enemy Lines didn't do so hot from what I understand). But I think they'd be better off quietly changing the name of the film division to something not so easily associated with WWE, such as "Titan Films" or something like that. And don't announce wrestlers in the starring roles if you've got other recognizable names on the cast. While "The Marine" deserved most of the criticism it got, it might have at least got closer to a fair chance if if were marketed by "Titan Films" and was starring Robert Patrick.
They also need to quit shoving it down our throats between every segment, and stop having all these "interviews" with other stars that are little more than them giving Cena a verbal blow job.
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Post by lordkain316 on Mar 29, 2009 9:06:20 GMT -5
If Vinnie Mac wants to stay in the movie business, then he's either got to have future releases on straight-to-DVD or let Cena star in some real studio films like The Rock did. If Micromanager Vince is controlling these low-budget trash films, they have no shot for wide releases. I'm sure this won't stop WWE Studios from doing their next John Cena film, where he'll likely play a firefighter whose girlfriend is kidnapped... Vince would never let John Cena star in a non-WWE film because a) Vince views him as the face of the WWE and wants to promote him as such through there products only and b) he's be a afraid of losing him just like he did The Rock. There's been rumors of films that Cena had the opportunity to audition for but Vince didn't let him. Read the reviews on rottentomatoes. Even the "favorable" reviews don't exactly do the movie any favors. That said, I still believe that the WWE could put out a cinematic masterpiece that could make William Shakespeare seem like an internet blogger and Gone with the Wind look like a high school film project. And the reviewers and general public would still crap all over it. Vince has got to understand that there's almost no chance in hell that they're going to be taken seriously in the movie business. The *instant* that they see "WWE Films" or "Starring <insert wrestler here>", the film is done for, no matter how good or bad it is. I remember reading somewhere that they're going to transition over to straight-to-DVD at one point, which may or may not be better for them (Behind Enemy Lines didn't do so hot from what I understand). But I think they'd be better off quietly changing the name of the film division to something not so easily associated with WWE, such as "Titan Films" or something like that. And don't announce wrestlers in the starring roles if you've got other recognizable names on the cast. While "The Marine" deserved most of the criticism it got, it might have at least got closer to a fair chance if if were marketed by "Titan Films" and was starring Robert Patrick. They also need to quit shoving it down our throats between every segment, and stop having all these "interviews" with other stars that are little more than them giving Cena a verbal blow job. Agreed 100%
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Mar 29, 2009 9:43:50 GMT -5
I blame the delicious chicken teriaki with the double meat that I ordered from Sarku Japan instead of paying for a ticket.
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Mar 29, 2009 12:12:14 GMT -5
Right now Box office mojo has it at 7th place with $5,300,000
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Post by YellowJacketY2J on Mar 29, 2009 13:14:38 GMT -5
i blame the financial crisis and terrorism. Nobody can blame the financial crisis for a movie not doing good at the box office. Ever since the crisis began, the box office has, for the most part, been better than it has been in the last few years. The reason being is people would like to take whatever money they do have and go see a film to get them away from their troubles for a few hours. The same thing happened during The Great Depression. People would scour whatever money they had, and go to the movies to get away from it all.
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Post by domrep on Mar 29, 2009 13:22:28 GMT -5
I think this just goes to show that Cena does not have the crossover potential many thought he had. This guy did the full rounds of media blitz, appearing anywhere and everywhere, and his movie still failed horribly. Last week, it was projected to do $10 million and it did half that.
WWE should stick to the straight to DVD releases. It makes them more money and they don't have to go through the embarrassment of their movies constantly flopping.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Mar 29, 2009 13:33:35 GMT -5
Kane > Cena and Stone Cold in sales. To be fair......Kane was perfectly cast in a slasher movie.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2009 13:39:33 GMT -5
Did You Know: John Cena's '12 Rounds' made more money at the box office this weekend than Watchmen
If WWE puts that on Raw, ECW, or Smackdown, I'm done watching them.
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4TheGlory
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Post by 4TheGlory on Mar 29, 2009 13:39:50 GMT -5
And Monsters vs. Aliens brings in a whopping 52.8 million
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Mar 29, 2009 13:40:40 GMT -5
And Monsters vs. Aliens brings in a whopping 52.8 million Well that's a no brainer. Dreamworks CGI = $$$
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Post by Celgress on Mar 29, 2009 14:01:19 GMT -5
Did you know John Cena's acting ability is on par with your average deer caught in heahlights, and is slightly better than that of the average marble statue?
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Post by Danimal on Mar 29, 2009 15:00:54 GMT -5
Kane > Cena and Stone Cold in sales. Yeah, but the real reason behind that is that high school kids will go to ANY horror movie that comes out. If they want to see an action movie they have tons of options will bigger budgets and better casts, but with horror, basically all of them are low-budget and no-name casts. Exactly, horror-flicks are a great investment. Them and family flicks are the most likely to return a profit. Throw in some wrestling fans with the usual horror-crowd and a typical meh-budget horror-flick was bound to make some cash. Cena is big in wrestling but isn't Rock in-terms of mainstream appeal. With the price of tickets nowadays he isn't going to put a lot of butts in seats, not enough for a big-budget, big marketing action flick. Vince needs to check his ego and recognize that Rock was special, he isn't a great thespian but dude oozes movie-star. Cena lacks Rock's star-quality. Austin lacks Rock's star-quality.
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Post by Mac on Mar 29, 2009 15:09:39 GMT -5
WWE should just do all horror flicks. I think R Truth would be outstanding in a remake of Serpent and the Rainbow
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Post by rrm15 on Mar 29, 2009 16:59:40 GMT -5
Um, is anyone really suprised by this? I mean REALLY suprised? Actually, a little bit. I didn't expect it to give The Dark Knights overall gross a run for its money, but I didn't expect it to do THAT bad. What was the budget for this, anyway? It couldn't have been that much, I'm sure it'll at least break even with the DVD sales.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Mar 29, 2009 17:07:58 GMT -5
What was the budget for this, anyway? It couldn't have been that much, I'm sure it'll at least break even with the DVD sales. Im not 100% sure (I dont have the figures for Kennedy's movie in front of me) but I believe all of the WWE produced movies have turned a profit by the time the DVD sales are figured in
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Post by twiggy101 on Mar 29, 2009 17:34:10 GMT -5
Did You Know: John Cena's '12 Rounds' made more money at the box office this week than Watchmen If WWE puts that on Raw, ECW, or Smackdown, I'm done watching them. They made a Did You Know fact during Kennedy's movie ad that the movie sold more copies that week than Pirates of the Carribean. I wouldn't be surprised if they make a cheap shot and say: Did You Know: 12 Rounds made more money at the box office this week than Dark Knight.
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Post by Magician under the moonlight on Mar 29, 2009 17:40:42 GMT -5
Did You Know: John Cena's '12 Rounds' made more money at the box office this week than Watchmen If WWE puts that on Raw, ECW, or Smackdown, I'm done watching them. They made a Did You Know fact during Kennedy's movie ad that the movie sold more copies that week than Pirates of the Carribean. I wouldn't be surprised if they make a cheap shot and say: Did You Know: 12 Rounds made more money at the box office this week than Dark Knight. Too bad Kennedy's movie perfomance in DVD sales were not that impressive.
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Post by darthpipes on Mar 29, 2009 19:27:26 GMT -5
Read the reviews on rottentomatoes. Even the "favorable" reviews don't exactly do the movie any favors. That said, I still believe that the WWE could put out a cinematic masterpiece that could make William Shakespeare seem like an internet blogger and Gone with the Wind look like a high school film project. And the reviewers and general public would still crap all over it. Vince has got to understand that there's almost no chance in hell that they're going to be taken seriously in the movie business. The *instant* that they see "WWE Films" or "Starring <insert wrestler here>", the film is done for, no matter how good or bad it is. I remember reading somewhere that they're going to transition over to straight-to-DVD at one point, which may or may not be better for them (Behind Enemy Lines didn't do so hot from what I understand). But I think they'd be better off quietly changing the name of the film division to something not so easily associated with WWE, such as "Titan Films" or something like that. And don't announce wrestlers in the starring roles if you've got other recognizable names on the cast. While "The Marine" deserved most of the criticism it got, it might have at least got closer to a fair chance if if were marketed by "Titan Films" and was starring Robert Patrick. They also need to quit shoving it down our throats between every segment, and stop having all these "interviews" with other stars that are little more than them giving Cena a verbal blow job. Very good points. Reminded me of what Joey Styles said on the Vince McMahon DVD. One of the reasons he knew that the XFL was doomed from the start was when it made it's network premeire, one of the first things we saw was Vince McMahon coming out to center field to rile up the crowd. Joey noted that if you're appealing to football fans, than most of them don't want to see wrestling associated with it. Believe me, there were a ton of reasons the XFL failed. But Vince's micromanaging of everything and inability to seperate some of his non-wrestling projects from the WWE is definitely a major factor. If he wants to attempt to have a successful movie studio, then he's going to have to give up some control of it to someone who knows just what the hell he was doing. I remember hearing that when The Condemned was beginning to film, Vince spent the week re-writing the script. Do you really want to go to a movie that Vince McMahon wrote? Expect a TON of promotion for 12 Rounds this week and into Wrestlemania...
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