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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Apr 15, 2009 18:00:20 GMT -5
yea i mean what was the parachute made of?? probably a garbage bag. when i was younger i tried to use a trash bag parachute. only difference between that and this is that i was five and jumping off a 4 foot tall slide
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Post by Cap'n Crud on Apr 15, 2009 18:02:00 GMT -5
Poor kid. I hope that this is just treated like the tragedy it is, and no rediculous witch hunts about WWE being responsible go on. This is Amerika we're talking about here. The land where it's Phillip Morris' fault you can't stop smoking and it's up to McDonald's to keep you from getting fat. Witch hunts it is. Won't somebody pleeeeeeeease think of the children.
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Post by Square on Apr 15, 2009 18:02:21 GMT -5
Sad story but the blame isn't with "Jeffing Harding", what TERRIBLE news reporting, or the WWE it's with the parents for not telling there kid to not jump out of the window of there aparment building. It makes sense. Also the kid was wearing a parachute, he was pretending to be "army man" and do a millitary jump and not a "Swan Dive" no where in the article does it say its blaming wrestling, that is the conclusion of some of the posters here It doesn't out and out say "WE BLAME WRESTLING" but the mear mention of him being a wrestling fan and imitating it tells the reader to blame wrestling. Papers do it all the time to not cross the line of opinion but to give the reader an opinion.
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Post by Joekishi on Apr 15, 2009 18:02:22 GMT -5
He was a nine year old child. I agree with you that wrestling should not be to blame, there are crazy stunts on all TV programmes and his parents should have been watching him, but calling him an idiot is harsh. true- but his friend was quoted as saying he was playing smackdown vs raw and was trying to mimick what he had just played on the video game I imagine it going like "Hey HOMIE you know how I use Jeff Hardy, Imma actually do that SWANTON off some high place" "That's not safe, hey maybe you should use a parachute lol" "Parachute?...hmmm" Then the friend doesn't hear from him after that.
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Post by Red Impact on Apr 15, 2009 18:07:53 GMT -5
no where in the article does it say its blaming wrestling, that is the conclusion of some of the posters here It doesn't out and out say "WE BLAME WRESTLING" but the mear mention of him being a wrestling fan and imitating it tells the reader to blame wrestling. Papers do it all the time to not cross the line of opinion but to give the reader an opinion. How dare they give an explanation for why a kid did something he did!? Those bastards! Seriously though, it's a pretty important of information to a story to say why a kid did something he did. It's something that's included any time a story like this is written.
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Post by B.B.M on Apr 15, 2009 18:09:38 GMT -5
I know this might get pointed out later on, but The parents are responsilble for what their Kid is playing, and the kid was playing a game, under the age rating. Kids have a huge imagination, and sadly, this kid's imagination lead to his death. R.I.P.
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Post by Jay Broni on Apr 15, 2009 18:10:29 GMT -5
It sounds to me like the writer of the article is trying to stir up shit about wrestling and video games rather than the parents. That's what usually happens when a tragedy occurs in our country, someone tries to use the situation as a soapbox for their own personal gains.
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Apr 15, 2009 18:11:07 GMT -5
I feel I should keep my trap shut in this thread.
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Post by Square on Apr 15, 2009 18:11:28 GMT -5
It doesn't out and out say "WE BLAME WRESTLING" but the mear mention of him being a wrestling fan and imitating it tells the reader to blame wrestling. Papers do it all the time to not cross the line of opinion but to give the reader an opinion. How dare they give an explanation for why a kid did something he did!? Those bastards! Well i'll restate my point. He was wearing a "parachute" so he couldn't of gotten the idea from SVR
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Post by The Verdict on Apr 15, 2009 18:13:40 GMT -5
I think the parents are idiots...where the f*** were they during this?
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Post by Red Impact on Apr 15, 2009 18:14:14 GMT -5
It sounds to me like the writer of the article is trying to stir up excretory matter about wrestling and video games rather than the parents. That's what usually happens when a tragedy occurs in our country, someone tries to use the situation as a soapbox for their own personal gains. Exactly what personal gain would the writer have by including that information in the story?
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Post by Cyborg Franky on Apr 15, 2009 18:19:27 GMT -5
This is sad, RIP kid.
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Post by Red Impact on Apr 15, 2009 18:29:09 GMT -5
How dare they give an explanation for why a kid did something he did!? Those bastards! Well i'll restate my point. He was wearing a "parachute" so he couldn't of gotten the idea from SVR Not really. He could have decided on the parachute portion on his own after deciding to try to mimic a swanton. That doesn't mean the idea didn't come from it, nor is it blaming wrestling to say why the kid decided to jump off the roof of his house. Simply put, why it happened is an important detail to the story. Printing why people are saying he did it isn't promoting some hidden anti-wrestling agenda anymore than publishing the mugshot with the guy in the WWE shirt did. I'm simply failing to see how that editorializes this story in any way if people are saying that he did it because of it. The only real reason for wrestling fans to get mad at a story like this is the poor fact checking on it.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Apr 15, 2009 18:37:31 GMT -5
good god man how many people respond to something without reading the whole article before responding.
They said the parents were at the store. The parents said they should have been more careful about about what their kids were doing in their free time (god forbid a parent sometimes trusts the kid to not do something stupid every now and then or they won't go crazy playing a video game). They said that the friend suggested that he might have got this stupid idea from playing a video game. No one blamed wrestling.
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Post by jagilki on Apr 15, 2009 18:45:07 GMT -5
Best I can recall Jeff Hardy doesn't use a parachute.
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Post by Mr Captain Falcon on Apr 15, 2009 18:49:52 GMT -5
I'm not going to argue for or against what hasn't already been stated. It's unfortunate that a 9 year old child is dead. His parents should have monitored what he was doing more often. The game he was playing IS rated T for Teen and the shows he watch shouldn't be watched, without parent supervision, by anybody younger than age 13. The child is NOT stupid, but also should have known that he's risking severe injury (at least) by performing the jump. However, the one to NOT blame is Vince McMahon. Vince puts all the disclaimers and rating systems on his tv shows, games and DVD's to ensure that this does not happen. He can't physically be there for every child to tell them NOT to do it in person.
Honestly perhaps WWE should acknowledge what happened to Owen Hart because it'll be 10 years next month. What happened with Owen was a very similar situation, and perhaps to help everybody remember what happen or realize what could happen again they should recount the events that happened. I think that's the best way they can say DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME!
Now getting away from the morbidity of this, Jeff Harvey will not perform the move again tonite.
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Post by Jay Broni on Apr 15, 2009 18:49:59 GMT -5
It sounds to me like the writer of the article is trying to stir up excretory matter about wrestling and video games rather than the parents. That's what usually happens when a tragedy occurs in our country, someone tries to use the situation as a soapbox for their own personal gains. Exactly what personal gain would the writer have by including that information in the story? If they personally have a problem with with wrestling or video games, an article that portrays such things in a negative light, regardless of facts, would be an attempt to persuade readers to their way of thinking, flawed as it may be.
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