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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2009 11:17:50 GMT -5
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Post by blef on May 8, 2009 11:23:17 GMT -5
"Vince did state that WrestleMania drew over 70,000 fans"
......boy, I'm really hoping that's in reference to the crowd at the show that night, because if it's not he's in a lotta money trouble....
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Post by vanboxmeer on May 8, 2009 11:24:21 GMT -5
So Wrestlemania drew 800k buys worldwide by Scott Steiner math.
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Post by angryfan on May 8, 2009 11:28:45 GMT -5
So Wrestlemania drew 800k buys worldwide by Scott Steiner math. Which is a 147% improvement over the chances of drawing that many buys for the replay which will air only in Scott Steiner's head. |
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Post by Gummydavidson on May 8, 2009 11:30:23 GMT -5
:DIs it save to say that WWE going PG is the reason?
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Post by AriadosMan on May 8, 2009 11:42:52 GMT -5
:DIs it save to say that WWE going PG is the reason? Not necessarily. WWE has been trending PG for some time. The economics of the recession make it more difficult to justify spending $40 on a one-time event, esp. when you can buy/rent the DVD for considerably cheaper than that. Wasn't there a complaint on the TNA board recently that their PPVs didn't have great buyrates either? I think the entire PPV event business model is in trouble. |
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on May 8, 2009 11:45:18 GMT -5
:DIs it save to say that WWE going PG is the reason? Not likely. It's the economy thing, people don't have as much to spend, and wrestling is not a priority over food and paying bills. |
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Post by AriadosMan on May 8, 2009 11:55:55 GMT -5
:DIs it save to say that WWE going PG is the reason? Not likely. It's the economy thing, people don't have as much to spend, and wrestling is not a priority over food and paying bills. Take into account that there are plenty of sources of pirated PPV live feeds as well now. |
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Post by Big Daddy Bad Booking on May 8, 2009 12:39:26 GMT -5
Not likely. It's the economy thing, people don't have as much to spend, and wrestling is not a priority over food and paying bills. Take into account that there are plenty of sources of pirated PPV live feeds as well now. That always has been a factor. Vince also stated in their quarterly meeting how groups of people pitch in and watch the shows together. Compared to some of these reasons, that one would make a lot of (legal) sense. |
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Post by AriadosMan on May 8, 2009 12:56:05 GMT -5
Take into account that there are plenty of sources of pirated PPV live feeds as well now. That always has been a factor. Vince also stated in their quarterly meeting how groups of people pitch in and watch the shows together. Compared to some of these reasons, that one would make a lot of (legal) sense. Which brings up an interesting question--do people who watch the PPVs in sports bars actually cut into the individual business as well? Do alot of sports bars show WWE PPVs? |
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Post by weekendwarrior on May 8, 2009 13:03:20 GMT -5
I totally blame the economy for this.
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Post by Loki on May 8, 2009 13:08:43 GMT -5
:DIs it save to say that WWE going PG is the reason? Nah... I think if we want to blame it on a creative standpoint, rather than on the more sensible economic reasons, we have to look no further than to the stalest formula AND main event scene since God knows when |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2009 13:10:23 GMT -5
I'm not too surprised.
I've heard that the Pay Per Views are expensive to purchase in the US, but I'm not too sure how much they actually cost. It's the same here in the UK, with the average WWE show costing about £15. Ridiculous prices, really.
A mixture of things can be blamed, but the state of the economy definitely has something to do with the the drop. Along with how many people are watching illegally these days. And a decreased interest in wrestling, too? As I said, I'm not surprised.
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Post by Reptar on May 8, 2009 14:09:54 GMT -5
Not likely. It's the economy thing, people don't have as much to spend, and wrestling is not a priority over food and paying bills. Take into account that there are plenty of sources of pirated PPV live feeds as well now. WWE has done a pretty good job of shutting those down recently. Trust me, I should know.  |
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Post by Well, Youre Wrong on May 8, 2009 14:21:04 GMT -5
I'm not too surprised. If I really want to watch a PPV I usually go to a bar with some friends and watch it. Plus blowing $40 on a wrestling PPV is a pretty damn big expense nowadays.
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Post by Magician under the moonlight on May 8, 2009 14:24:15 GMT -5
Take into account that there are plenty of sources of pirated PPV live feeds as well now. WWE has done a pretty good job of shutting those down recently. Trust me, I should know. I know too. But too bad it's something they can't control. |
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Post by The Verdict on May 8, 2009 14:30:46 GMT -5
poor randy isnt a draw it seems
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Post by Magician under the moonlight on May 8, 2009 15:40:45 GMT -5
poor randy isnt a draw it seems Noone really is a draw. Plus Randy did not main event No Way Out so he is not to blame. |
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Post by r. on May 8, 2009 16:28:45 GMT -5
I'm aware he isnt the cause but im not suprised to find out people don't wanna pay 40$ to see a man in drag win a rumble designed for women.
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Post by neilfrazier on May 8, 2009 16:39:16 GMT -5
The problem is the ppv itself. After endless promos on hype on the shows, the PPVs rarely deliver.
I attended Night of Champions in 2008 in Dallas. They made the PPV a "must see" since all the titles were on the line, yet they gave away the best moment the next night on Raw when CM Punk cashed in MITB. Do you have any idea how screwed over I felt by WWE?
I've been a huge fan since I was 9 in 1991, so even though I'm in money trouble I still order the Royal Rumble. Always my favorite PPV, but they pretty much gave away that Orton was going to win the second he punted McMahon the Raw before.
Wrestlemania is just too much money at 50 dollars, and I was going to go to a wing bar to watch it. In the end I didn't feel like it, and it looks like I made the right choice except for the Taker VS HBK match.
Here's how WWE can improve PPVs:
1) Cut the price by 20-25 dollars. When the price is too high, people flock to mass viewings at friends houses or bars. Vince acknowledges this. By lowering the price, lazy people like me wouldn't bother to go out and just order the damn thing.
2) Stop giving away results with poor writing. Unless WWE is purposely trying to throw off the fans with something absurd, most can easily predict the matches they want to see. This ties into #1. Why would I spend 40 dollars on something I can see coming.
3) Better writing. A better product means more buys. 80% of the people on this board have better ideas than what gets put on our TVs
4) Development: develop the entire roster on each show instead of the same 4-6 superstars rotating feuds. The draft does look promising though.
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