littlenaitch
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Post by littlenaitch on Jul 21, 2005 14:39:27 GMT -5
I just read on pwtorch.com that UPN has told WWE that they don't want Hassan on Smackdown from this point on. So right now WWE Creative is going to have The Undertaker kill off Hassan. I have a feeling that this match will now be a casket match so that way WWE can get rid of the Hassan character. It also now looks like JBL will be defeating Batista for the World Heavyweight Title and go onto SummerSlam and face The Undertaker. What is everyone's thoughts on this news?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2005 14:44:39 GMT -5
The WWE should tell UPN where to shove it as far as I'm concerned
I liked the Hassan character and it annoys me to see a good character "killed off" because a few pansies chose to ignore the multiple warnings WWE gave, then go crying about it to UPN
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Post by FailedGimmick on Jul 21, 2005 14:44:46 GMT -5
It makes me PISSED OFF!
Though I think it's funny that we may be getting a Summerslam rematch only for World Heavyweight Chamionship instead of the WWE Championship like it was last year.
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Post by The OP on Jul 21, 2005 15:19:53 GMT -5
The WWE should tell UPN where to shove it as far as I'm concerned I liked the Hassan character and it annoys me to see a good character "killed off" because a few pansies chose to ignore the multiple warnings WWE gave, then go crying about it to UPN Right on Chyno! I was hoping to see Hassan on Smackdown! tonight.
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Post by Chris Decker-The Wild Rover on Jul 22, 2005 2:30:09 GMT -5
it could be the fact that again today there were some more bombings in london, which really is sad. i'm only aware of one person actually being reported wounded if any.
but it is a same, cause hussan is the reason i began watching within these last few months. he had good heat that i haven't seen since the peak of 2001 with hunter. and to have wwe kill of the whole character is really quite a shame considering what they could had done.
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Post by jasond1743 on Jul 22, 2005 2:36:05 GMT -5
poor mark copni (sp)
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Jul 22, 2005 8:31:17 GMT -5
Of course, Hassan has to go cuz he's a terrorist and was probably involved in the terrorist attacks in London. Ignore that he's not actually Arab and he's just making a living for himself. Since some don't like the methods he is given to make his living with, he MUST be a terrorist and, hence, at fault. [/Sarcasm]
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Post by chrislatimer2005 on Jul 22, 2005 8:33:53 GMT -5
The WWE should tell UPN where to shove it as far as I'm concerned I liked the Hassan character and it annoys me to see a good character "killed off" because a few pansies chose to ignore the multiple warnings WWE gave, then go crying about it to UPN excuse me the gimmick was racist it was disrespectful to arabs plus after the london bombings i think its right the gimmick is culled. i do fell sorry for mangus tho hes a good worker ans good on the mic, and u gotta love that theme tune
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Jul 22, 2005 8:37:33 GMT -5
The WWE should tell UPN where to shove it as far as I'm concerned I liked the Hassan character and it annoys me to see a good character "killed off" because a few pansies chose to ignore the multiple warnings WWE gave, then go crying about it to UPN excuse me the gimmick was racist it was disrespectful to arabs plus after the london bombings i think its right the gimmick is culled. i do fell sorry for mangus tho hes a good worker ans good on the mic, and u gotta love that theme tune Despite how the announcers and others constantly talk about how they hate him because he's an asshole, not because he's Arab. That's racist, right? And of COURSE the character has to be pulled after the London Bombings, because Hassan is a terrorist. Oy... just oy.
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Jul 22, 2005 8:40:49 GMT -5
BTW, here's an interesting column written on the subject. www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=11837&p=1TAKING UPN TO TASK FOR KILLING THE HASSAN CHARACTER by JD @ 9:51:00 PM on 7/21/2005 Open Letter About Hassan/WWE/UPN I am an elite member of Pro Wrestling Insider. I grew up watching Hulk Hogan "run wild" on America. I am also a citizen of the United States of America. That probably describes a great number of people on this site. I am also a junior high teacher in the heartland of America. I teach the Constitution to 8th graders every year. They learn about the American Revolution, the "treason" the founding fathers were forced to commit to ensure that they got basic rights. They risked death by signing their names to the Declaration of Independence. Why? They did it because they felt people had a God given right to certain things; life, liberty, you know the rest. As I grew up I stopped watching wrestling. To be honest, I didn't find it very entertaining anymore. However, somewhere along the line I came back during the Monday night war and found WCW to be very entertaining and very different from what I remembered wrestling being when I was younger. They had crazy stories and characters that were anything but "the good guys". It was funny, and it was entertaining. Now I don't watch it as much these days, but I will still tune in on Mondays to see what is new. I saw the Hassan angle several months ago on RAW and, to be honest, it didn't do much for me. I thought it was just bad. Not morally wrong, not shocking, not over the top. I just thought it was boring. Then I watched as they moved the storyline to Smackdown. All of a sudden there are stories in the mainstream media about the outrage of showing a wrestling story with elements of terrorism. Outrage? Over a STORY on a television program? Did I wake up in a different country? Don't these people know what the E in WWE stands for? Do they know that it's scripted? Then today I read from the WWE that they may not have that character on TV anymore because UPN doesn't like it. That was the proverbial straw for me. In the United States of America, in the year 2005, we are going back to having censorship by big brother. The removal of the very freedoms the soldiers are protecting in Iraq, the very freedoms the Patriots were fighting for when they signed the Declaration 229 years ago. We can't have a story, a fictional story, on television because there were terrorist attacks in London. Why not ban Lost from ABC because they had a plane crash? Why not ban any movie that has the WTC's in them? Where do we stop? Who decides what is acceptable for people to watch? Isn't that what was decided after the American Revolution? It's fine to dislike the angle; to think it's in bad taste. I have no problem with that at all. However, when the dislike starts to destroy freedom of speech it worries me. It should worry other people. I know there are standards and practices for all network TV, but this is beyond that. This is someone saying you can't something because its politically incorrect. That's just not right. I don't like the Hassan storyline. I think it's a boring story. However, I do like the fact that they can offer the programing, and I can decide whether it's worth my time. I don't want big brother and the media to decide what is good for America. That is what Saddam Hussein did in Iraq for decades. Isn't that what we fought against? Don't become what you have always fought against. Don't become the omnipresent dictator that decides what others should see. After all, it's just wrestling. After all, this is America.
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Post by chrislatimer2005 on Jul 22, 2005 8:45:18 GMT -5
u can not be serious this has gone beyond that the gimmick is f***ed up and has to go fair play to upn for having the balls to take a stand
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Jul 22, 2005 8:48:12 GMT -5
If the character has gone beyond the gimmick, than its the writing team that has to take responsibility for it. Instead, they are saddling responsibility on the performer who is simply doing his job and HE is the one who will take the fall for doing what he is told. Doesn't sound like its fair play to me. It sounds like Hassan... or more accurately, Mark Caproni, is getting the raw deal, while the creative team who thought up the offensive crap for him to do, walk away scott free.
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Post by chrislatimer2005 on Jul 22, 2005 8:50:51 GMT -5
If the character has gone beyond the gimmick, than its the writing team that has to take responsibility for it. Instead, they are saddling responsibility on the performer who is simply doing his job and HE is the one who will take the fall for doing what he is told. Doesn't sound like its fair play to me. It sounds like Hassan... or more accurately, Mark Caproni, is getting the raw deal, while the creative team who thought up the offensive crap for him to do, walk away scott free. thats true but what can ya do to creative
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Post by psychotix5000 on Jul 22, 2005 12:29:11 GMT -5
Fire them and hire a new creative. It just sucks that Mark has to take the heat for this when he's doing what he's been told. I never had anything against him. I knew he was doing it because he would've been canned otherwise. It just sucks that he's caught in the middle of WWE screwing up and pissing off the wrong people. Vince basically killed his wrestling career, and that sucks.
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Post by bigblu89 on Jul 22, 2005 14:03:25 GMT -5
The non-wrestling people that find the Hassan character and antics offensive are usually the same people that give the "you know it's fake" agument to wrestling fan that talk about other WWE storylines like they are real.
How come they can seperate the fact the HHH and Batista don't really hate each other, but can't realize that Hassan is just a character, and WWE aren't really anti-America?
Plus I personally found the Iraqi-Sympathiser (sp?) version of Sgt. Slaughter much more offensive then aynthing Hassan has done so far.
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Post by psy on Jul 22, 2005 15:45:11 GMT -5
I don't understand how you can be offended one bit at anything that happens on wrestling.
Even this.
How does it hurt you directly? What is so bad about it? It's not even real and you KNOW it's not.
I just shrugged and forgot about it after it happened. Another week, another episode of Smackdown.
It's not REAL.
How does four guys in masks beating up the Undertaker offend you? I wouldn't even say that it's in bad taste.
Seriously get a grip here folks.
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Post by jasond1743 on Jul 22, 2005 16:29:00 GMT -5
at least my buddy is the most talked about wrestler in ther world right now even more than hogan?
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Post by The OP on Jul 22, 2005 16:29:23 GMT -5
I don't understand how you can be offended one bit at anything that happens on wrestling. Even this. How does it hurt you directly? What is so bad about it? It's not even real and you KNOW it's not. I just shrugged and forgot about it after it happened. Another week, another episode of Smackdown. It's not REAL. How does four guys in masks beating up the Undertaker offend you? I wouldn't even say that it's in bad taste. Seriously get a grip here folks. I agree with you 100%. A whole lot of fuss over a TV show. It's ridiculous.
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Post by B.A. on Jul 23, 2005 9:10:09 GMT -5
www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,163419,00.html wow, hows this for ya, fair and balanced of course and with the link, try to copy the whole thing into I.E. for some reason i cant get the rest of it highlighted
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Post by Danimal on Jul 23, 2005 12:32:18 GMT -5
I don't understand how you can be offended one bit at anything that happens on wrestling. Even this. How does it hurt you directly? What is so bad about it? It's not even real and you KNOW it's not. I just shrugged and forgot about it after it happened. Another week, another episode of Smackdown. It's not REAL. How does four guys in masks beating up the Undertaker offend you? I wouldn't even say that it's in bad taste. Seriously get a grip here folks. You don't have to be affected by something to be offended by it. Tons of bad things in the world don't actually affect me personally, that doesn't mean I can't have a problem with them. I'm sure you have a problem with negative things that don't affect you personally, if you didn't you'd be just a self-involved a-hole. I was opposed to this gimmick from the start, it is simply race-baiting to get cheap heat. WWE can't put their heads together to come up something half-way original so they go back to the old Iron Sheik bit. I was by no-stretch up-in-arms but I didnt' care for it much They weren't just guys in masks they were supposed to be terrorists and considering what had just happened in London it was in bad taste. While I don't like Hassan I'm not morally outraged by him, I actually agree that this has really been blown out of proportion. Folks do need to get a grip and UPN shouldn't be making these power-plays. I just disagree that folks have no right to be offended.
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