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Post by Miz-Wannabe on May 17, 2009 13:56:31 GMT -5
I heard that Shawn Michaels didn't want to lose but I don't blame him. Hogan is old and everyone knew it Shawn should of easily beat him. Shawn just mocked Hogan with his overselling the whole match. What happened there? Did the two become enemies for it?
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Post by The Genesis of KoOS on May 17, 2009 13:58:27 GMT -5
The story was the Hogan was suppose to return the favor the next month, but then changed his mind.
Typical Hogan.
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Post by Mayonnaise on May 17, 2009 14:01:08 GMT -5
Hogan fan: Shawn was being a little bitch because Hogan was the bigger star and would lay down for him.  Typical HBK, can't let their be anyone better than him. HBK fan: Shawn bumped like he would for a bigger guy but, also had to do something to save the match as Hogan had hip and back problems and couldn't bump. Add in Hogan not returning the favor and Shawn had ever right to make him look like an ass. Did I miss anything? |
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on May 17, 2009 14:01:14 GMT -5
Shawn got out-politicked
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Post by King Fox -1017 Bricksquad on May 17, 2009 14:05:55 GMT -5
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Post by Cavs for Mavs Mafia on May 17, 2009 14:10:22 GMT -5
Pretty much, though I go agree that Shawn should have gone over, but it's not like it hurt HBK's image. He was already a legend at that point and doing the job did nothing to hurt him. |
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Post by sloride on May 17, 2009 14:15:01 GMT -5
I'm in between the two. Hogan should have never walked out on doing the job and should never have gone over Shawn in the first place. Shawn on the other hand should have acted like a professional. As a fan I was angry that I felt I was insignificant to be treated that way. Why did I pay £15 for a match that Shawn was going to take the piss out of?
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Post by Lance Uppercut on May 17, 2009 14:27:15 GMT -5
I think if shawn did act professional and did the match without the crazy selling, that much would have sucked hard.
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Post by neilfrazier on May 17, 2009 14:27:29 GMT -5
When it comes to both HBK and Hogan, who did they ever truly put over in their careers? Now that I think about it, I think HBK has only elevated HHH. At least Hogan put over Warrior and eventually Yokozuna, although he did screw Yoko at Wrestlemania 8.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2009 14:34:34 GMT -5
When it comes to both HBK and Hogan, who did they ever truly put over in their careers? Now that I think about it, I think HBK has only elevated HHH. At least Hogan put over Warrior and eventually Yokozuna, although he did screw Yoko at Wrestlemania 8. It could be argued that HBK put over Jeff Hardy and Chris Jericho Hogan put over Trips and Lesnar |
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Post by I Like Your Poetry on May 17, 2009 14:35:00 GMT -5
I think if shawn did act professional and did the match without the crazy selling, that much would have sucked hard. This...though I've heard both arguments that either the crazy selling was to be an asshole, or that it was the only good kind of match he could have had with Hogan. I will say this though...there's a reason this match still gets discussed from time to time on here as opposed to such unmemorable feuds as Ric Flair vs. Mick Foley (from the following year!), which makes me believe that WWE did something right with Hogan/HBK. |
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on May 17, 2009 14:49:09 GMT -5
The thing is, it wasn't a match for the smarks. It was a match for all the casual fans who don't really follow the current product but have nostalgic memories of watching Hogan beat people up back in the '80s, when they were kids.
And they're not going to turn the TV off thinking "Michaels was screwing around to pay Hogan back for his politicing." If anything, I think that sort of fan's reaction would be "Wow, Hogan's still crazy strong, even at his age."
(Incidentally, has Hulk/HBK/Vince/anyone in WWE actually commented on what went down in the match, or is the whole "Hogan backed out of a two-match deal, pissing off Michaels" thing pure internet speculation?)
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on May 17, 2009 15:24:55 GMT -5
If anything, I think that sort of fan's reaction would be "Wow, Hogan's still crazy strong, even at his age." Somewhat off-topic: I bet he is. Dude is still big; even with the back and hip/knee problems, I wouldn't want to take a punch from him, if he put all his muscle into it. |
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on May 17, 2009 15:26:56 GMT -5
I will say this though...there's a reason this match still gets discussed from time to time on here as opposed to such unmemorable feuds as Ric Flair vs. Mick Foley (from the following year!), which makes me believe that WWE did something right with Hogan/HBK. Actually, for me, the Flair-Foley feud is bigger. The only thing I remember from the build up to Hogan-HBK is the Larry King skit. I remember most of the build up for the I Quit match. Of course, Flair is my all-time favorite and I'm a big fan of Foley too. |
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Post by Crazy Diamond on May 17, 2009 16:15:24 GMT -5
Not a fan of either, but that match was hilarious.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on May 17, 2009 16:17:52 GMT -5
HBK got out-politicked, and he went and moaned about it the next night and no one in the crowd didn't give a crap.
Vince deferred to the bigger name which was Hogan.
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Post by YellowJacketY2J on May 17, 2009 16:26:52 GMT -5
I always thought that Hogan should've won that match. And this is coming from a huge HBK fan.
Now, if we were discussing Hogan/Orton from Summerslam 2006, then I would be arguing that Orton deserved the win. Would've skyrocketed his career even higher.
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Post by Rick Mad on May 17, 2009 17:06:55 GMT -5
I sincerely believe that HBK really wasn't happy with losing and everything BUT he acted how he did to try and save the match. I don't really think he's the kind of guy right now to go and sabotage it on purpose... though the next night or whenever when he trashed Hogan and all, he was definitely bitter.
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Post by Long Live the Stream on May 17, 2009 17:10:32 GMT -5
According to the HBK DVD, creative told him to be 98 HBK and pretty much go after Hogan on the mic. Hogan told HBK to say whatever he wanted. Hogan then went to the media and said what HBK was saying was "unprofessional". Michaels took it very personally that Hogan was acting fine to his face and then whining about it to everyone else.
Plus, Hogan balked on doing the job in return at Unforgiven. I think that's where the problems come from.
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Post by Starlight Starbright on May 17, 2009 18:09:43 GMT -5
....there's no other way to have a decent match with Hogan. Ask the Undertaker.
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