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Post by Starlight Starbright on May 29, 2009 19:51:51 GMT -5
You get the just of what I mean I'm sure. I was talking more corny and stupid type promo stuff. ooooh, lol. Those kinds of fans are the majority and one of the reasons why I don't socialize with wrestling fans outside of the internet or women's shows very much. Those kind of fans, bleh.
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Post by Mecca on May 29, 2009 19:54:42 GMT -5
You get the just of what I mean I'm sure. I was talking more corny and stupid type promo stuff. ooooh, lol. Those kinds of fans are the majority and one of the reasons why I don't socialize with wrestling fans outside of the internet or women's shows very much. Those kind of fans, bleh. For your other post I always liked WCW more than WWE in it's heyday just because no matter how much an angle sucked or the NWO was doing something stupid, you could always rely on the midcarders to work. They never had moves taken away and were allowed to do their thing, I liked that. And with this I know where you're coming from. If someone tells me they're into wrestling. I let them elaborate before I tell them if I am to or not. Alot of wrestling fans do make me ashamed to be associated with them so I try to determine if they are a fan I will get along with or one I'll want to strangle before I let that cat out of the bag.
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Post by Mayonnaise on May 29, 2009 19:56:00 GMT -5
Also alot of the Japanese workers I like would be neutered by the WWE with most of their moves being taken away. Which is why I don't even understand why they'd want them. This reeks of nEwZ. For the same reason baseball teams covet Japanese players and NBA covets Chinese, the market is huge and it's easier to promote there with a "homegrown" guy or gal.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 29, 2009 19:57:47 GMT -5
Bit of a change from "too Asian looking". At least Morishima wasn't hired because they didn't like Harley Race's claims that he'd be the new Terry Gordy. They probably would of snagged Morishima, since he's big enough, they expressed interest, and the other things, but I don't think NOAH would be likely to let go of him, since he's probably one of their best. I think people are starting to drown a little on their own brand of the conspiracy Kool Aid to think WWE is so afraid of Japanese moves considering outside of a small, small handful of moves, none have ever been officially banned. They much more likely are just phased out since it takes too much of a toll on a full schedule. Japanese wrestlers can afford to do more when they don't commute as much, wrestle as many dates, and end up retiring earlier.
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Post by Mecca on May 29, 2009 19:57:53 GMT -5
Which is why I don't even understand why they'd want them. This reeks of nEwZ. For the same reason baseball teams covet Japanese players and NBA covets Chinese, the market is huge and it's easier to promote there with a "homegrown" guy or gal. It's one thing if the guys good, like say a Yao or a Ichiro but I don't think Yi Jianling or Shinjo were great for marketing since they ended up not being good. So I don't know how some guy they'd probably put midcard or lower while taking away most of what makes him what he is as a worker would help them draw in another country.
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Post by Mayonnaise on May 29, 2009 20:04:16 GMT -5
For the same reason baseball teams covet Japanese players and NBA covets Chinese, the market is huge and it's easier to promote there with a "homegrown" guy or gal. It's one thing if the guys good, like say a Yao or a Ichiro but I don't think Yi Jianling or Shinjo were great for marketing since they ended up not being good. So I don't know how some guy they'd probably put midcard or lower while taking away most of what makes him what he is as a worker would help them draw in another country. The huge difference is though, they control how good or bad the guy looks. If they push the guy to ECW or IC Title level, no matter his skill level, they will gain inroads which could net them bigger and better stars which is more money made.
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Post by Crystal Visions on May 29, 2009 20:12:38 GMT -5
lol@ Crystal Visions posting pics of Nanae. ..too bad the humor is lost on the thread. Is it just me, or does this make no sense at all? How can someone be too asian looking? It's called racism. The same thing happened to Bruce Lee. It's sort of like telling a black actor to "Act blacker" and meaning for them to talk like a pimp/ho or be Cryme Tyme. Lol, actually first time I ever saw Morishima was with him in a black shirt with like Danielson and some other guy and I thought "Holy hell, ROH wrestlers are Chigusa marks?!" Also, when morishima has short hair, he's quite sexy. He almost has a shiozaki-esque look to him.....hell, if he cuts his hair I'd totally stalk him. Write him creepy love notes like *I wanna get beached with you." It'd be amazing.
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Post by Mecca on May 29, 2009 20:13:55 GMT -5
lol@ Crystal Visions posting pics of Nanae. ..too bad the humor is lost on the thread. It's called racism. The same thing happened to Bruce Lee. It's sort of like telling a black actor to "Act blacker" and meaning for them to talk like a pimp/ho or be Cryme Tyme. Lol, actually first time I ever saw Morishima was with him in a black shirt and I thought "Holy hell, ROH wrestlers are Chigusa marks?!" Also, when morishima has short hair, he's quite sexy. He almost has a shiozaki-esque look to him.....hell, if he cuts his hair I'd totally stalk him. Write him creepy love notes like *I wanna get beached with you." It'd be amazing. I wonder if his nose would start bleeding just from reading it.
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Post by Crystal Visions on May 29, 2009 20:19:40 GMT -5
Lol, actually first time I ever saw Morishima was with him in a black shirt and I thought "Holy hell, ROH wrestlers are Chigusa marks?!" Also, when morishima has short hair, he's quite sexy. He almost has a shiozaki-esque look to him.....hell, if he cuts his hair I'd totally stalk him. Write him creepy love notes like *I wanna get beached with you." It'd be amazing. I wonder if his nose would start bleeding just from reading it. I'll carry the blood in a vial around my neck.
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Post by scifi1980 on May 29, 2009 20:27:54 GMT -5
Yeah great. WWE will neuture 80% of the japanese wrestlers offensive material because it will scare the piss out of the lockeroom and they end up losing to John Cena and Hornswaggle in a 10 on 1 1/2 handicap match where Cena lays them all out in succession with the FU then lets Hornswoggle score the winning pin on whichever Japanese guy the fans like the most. Do it at Great American Bash for the Xenophobe factor.
1 day later on Raw
McMahon: We wanted to bring in the great wrestlers from the orient so they could showcase their ability for the WWE fans. Unfortunatley we didn't anticipate they would lose to of all people John Cena??? and Hornswoggle???
YOUR FIRED!!!!
That concludes the Japan invasion angle and we move right along on Raw with a dildo on a pole match were 5 divas who nobody knows botch and flop around for 5 minutes until Santina runs in and grabs the thing and wins.
Then they start an angle where Santina has a secret admirer......who is one of the dudes in the back.......and here's me shutting off USA for another 3 months
(click)
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Post by Mecca on May 29, 2009 20:31:01 GMT -5
Yeah great. WWE will neuture 80% of the japanese wrestlers offensive material because it will scare the piss out of the lockeroom and they end up losing to John Cena and Hornswaggle in a 10 on 1 1/2 handicap match where Cena lays them all out in succession with the FU then lets Hornswoggle score the winning pin on whichever Japanese guy the fans like the most. Do it at Great American Bash for the Xenophobe factor. 1 day later on Raw McMahon: We wanted to bring in the great wrestlers from the orient so they could showcase their ability for the WWE fans. Unfortunatley we didn't anticipate they would lose to of all people John Cena??? and Hornswoggle??? YOUR FIRED!!!! That concludes the Japan invasion angle and we move right along on Raw with a dildo on a pole match were 5 divas who nobody knows botch and flop around for 5 minutes until Santina runs in and grabs the thing and wins. Then they start an angle where Santina has a secret admirer......who is one of the dudes in the back.......and here's me shutting off USA for another 3 months (click) I think you need to send your resume to the WWE they might hire you after reading this post.
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Post by r. on May 29, 2009 20:35:42 GMT -5
They should hire Razor Ramone, and no it's not the one your thinking of. Also Ebessan would be perfect for there kid freindly direction.
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Post by Starlight Starbright on May 29, 2009 20:38:41 GMT -5
lol@ Crystal Visions posting pics of Nanae. ..too bad the humor is lost on the thread. It's called racism. The same thing happened to Bruce Lee. It's sort of like telling a black actor to "Act blacker" and meaning for them to talk like a pimp/ho or be Cryme Tyme. Lol, actually first time I ever saw Morishima was with him in a black shirt with like Danielson and some other guy and I thought "Holy hell, ROH wrestlers are Chigusa marks?!" Also, when morishima has short hair, he's quite sexy. He almost has a shiozaki-esque look to him.....hell, if he cuts his hair I'd totally stalk him. Write him creepy love notes like *I wanna get beached with you." It'd be amazing. Morishima-sama, I want to get beached with you. lol I just happen to love creepy letter writing.
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Post by Starlight Starbright on May 29, 2009 20:39:19 GMT -5
They should hire Razor Ramone, and no it's not the one your thinking of. Also Ebessan would be perfect for there kid freindly direction. HG Razor? Dooooo it!
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Post by Mozenrath on May 29, 2009 20:39:56 GMT -5
After seeing everything they let Borne do, I'm having a hard time seeing this WWE many are speaking of that where everyone wrestles the same and no one is allowed to do anything, ever. It'd be a real treat, since it's up there with WWE and their Entertainers for most cited thing that never actually happened.
Piledriver, Vertebreaker, Possibly the 450 Splash. Congratulations, you just read the entire banned list. The End.
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Post by Mecca on May 29, 2009 20:41:40 GMT -5
After seeing everything they let Borne do, I'm having a hard time seeing this WWE many are speaking of that where everyone wrestles the same and no one is allowed to do anything, ever. It'd be a real treat, since it's up there with WWE and their Entertainers for most cited thing that never actually happened. Piledriver, Vertebreaker, Possibly the 450 Splash. Congratulations, you just read the entire banned list. The End. Evan Bourne literally had to do the 450 about 20 times perfectly in front of all the agents before they'd ok him doing it. WWE Style is not a myth, they make goes go to develop to learn it when they've been wrestling for 10 years.
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Post by r. on May 29, 2009 20:44:18 GMT -5
They should hire Razor Ramone, and no it's not the one your thinking of. Also Ebessan would be perfect for there kid freindly direction. HG Razor? Dooooo it! I'm glad i'm not alone in my love of HG......wait that didn't come out right.
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Post by Mecca on May 29, 2009 20:44:55 GMT -5
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Post by Starlight Starbright on May 29, 2009 20:45:21 GMT -5
After seeing everything they let Borne do, I'm having a hard time seeing this WWE many are speaking of that where everyone wrestles the same and no one is allowed to do anything, ever. It'd be a real treat, since it's up there with WWE and their Entertainers for most cited thing that never actually happened. Piledriver, Vertebreaker, Possibly the 450 Splash. Congratulations, you just read the entire banned list. The End. It's true that only 2 moves are actually banned. But it's also true that part of "working smart" is working slower matches devoid of nearly every kind of fast paced match up they do in Japan. That's what people are talking about. Fans aren't going to see the gonzo-fast stuff that made these guys sensations outside of Japan. One could argue that the reason people outside of Japan like puro and joshi puro so much is because they work the way wrestlers here aren't allowed to work, which would be the slower paced, "smarter" style. I'd also like to point out that I put smarter in quotations because the main reason Japanese wrestlers, male and female, can wrestle so insanely is because the level of training their receive allows them to do so w/o getting injured all the time. The training is the key difference. WWE-style is real, it's not banned moves it's the way they wrestle. Bourne had to prove he would never botch the 450.
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Post by Mecca on May 29, 2009 20:47:17 GMT -5
Personally I think WWE style is implemented to prevent guys from getting over on ring work. Not to mention the way that company works if some talented midcarder tore the house down with what he could do the old guys who don't move well anymore that still mainevent like say an H or a Taker would have a complete fit.
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