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Post by OblivionSorceress on Dec 11, 2009 14:52:34 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more with one thing, peg. Once I'm dead, review what I've said. Don't worry. If you flip town, I *will* look back at what you said. That means I'd look at Ravishing One and Al Bundy very critically, as that's who you've seemed to go toe-to-toe with most often. Also, I'll look at the remainder of your suspicion list you made. I have a couple of theories on Al Bundy so far anyway. However, Al has made a claim that I've been pursuing ever since the end of Day One and the Night One write-up. I just don't find it coincedence that another good player is having the same suspicions. I know you to be a good player to, and that's why some things haven't sit well with me. I think you're playing a great game, but unless a startling revelation occurs, I think you're my vote on this day. And on that note, it looks like you'll have the whole week to prove your case. Everyone who's active has been posting and weighed in. The rest of them won't ever show up, so there won't be an early lynch it appears. (With ritt gone too, there goes another active poster.) It's pretty much on four or five players to get the job done. Latino Meat -- will probably have more to add Al Bundy -- has made his case, so who knows what more he'll have to say Gunslinger -- will weigh in, since he's proven that he's remaining active Sweet N Sour -- sound contributions on Day Two and practically the one who made the first big revelation about Jazzman, and he'll be back for more, I assume and then you have ... Ravishing One -- worthless Deadpool -- worthless Delirious 2 -- worthless Jonathan Michaels -- I don't remember really anything he's said that added to my opinion about any other player one way or the other Michael Hayden -- is he still alive? Oblivion Sorceress -- trying, but barking up a series of imaginary trees by detracting from the most obvious line of rationale we have right now; that is, choosing to go lunging in the dark after a serial killer who NONE of us have had anything to go on scruffy -- also trying, but under his own admission, has been mislead and left scratching his head and then there is crudulak. He's been weird, randomly in and out, seemingly contributing , then taking long hiatuses. I don't remember Mr. Emoticon saying a single word about him. If Mr. Emoticon goes down at mafia, I'm looking back critically at what crudulak has had to say. I honestly don't know what to make of him yet. And from a mafia perspective, if we douse Mr. Emoticon and he's mafia, then the two remaining mafia members would have to strongly consider trying their best to root out the serial killer as well. Because the odds of his/her mark being hit at night once another mafia member is lynched goes up dramatically if we keep losing two town members for every one lynch. Also, on that note, I have a question: if the serial killer's mark has already been lynched or mafia night-killed, is that usually something that is revealed in the night write-up? Does the serial killer then just keep killing for the sake of killing? There have been several non-serial killer related deaths, and odds are that the killer's mark is going to go down VERY soon if they haven't already, so that's why I ask. If the mafia nightkills his/her mark on Night 3, then would we probably get some sort of clue in the write-up that would let us know that?? Do you realize how much your statements can insult people? I really don't think you do.
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Dec 11, 2009 14:59:19 GMT -5
What would I do if i was mafia?... try to keep everyone unsure about their thoughts... in other words, keep them off balanced... I don't have specific examples, but I've had that feeling from you since mid day 2...that you were trying to keep people off balance… Anyway... for my response... Those of you who are sure I'm Snow are gonna be pretty embarrassed when the truth comes out. That said, can you be more specific about what your Tracking results said? If all you were told was that the person was "at the party" in your night action response, then to me that means the person was a Rebel who was at the party, and the subsequent actions of your character in the write-up were just thrown in there for drama. After all, Enoboria was never really at the party; she was outside. The party is for the Rebels, and she is almost assuredly not a Rebel. Stands to reason that if Deadpool was Enoboria, your tracking result would indicate that she wasn't with the rest of the Tributes; it'd be something like "outside of the party". And if you choose to see her as still being at the party despite having been outside, this is a case of you choosing to believe that the write-ups don't reflect peoples actions. Enobria wasn't outside the entire time. And if it was a tribute, why would he/she be outside? Enobria was ‘at the party’. Of that i'm sure. Nope, just one action. But, I also hung out with Katniss and Finnick night 1... but neither of them were my target then. So things do happen that aren't connected with night actions. Hey, I might be wrong. But I am at a loss myself if I am wrong. And one of the reasons i revealed and let everyone in on what I was dealing with. When I was in the writeups, it specifically mirrored my actions. I have no reason not to believe this again. Thus the reason why I look at these write ups... While everything might not be 100% a reflection of how things went(cause a story still needs to be told), its definately not 100% non-reflective either. And i'm betting moreso than not(look at day 1 lynch and how the ending was re-written to conform). The fact that I can't be given alignment sucks. Cause if it had said "You're target attacked peeta" that would have been a dead giveaway. Or if there wasn't a party... then the person I tracked going to a specific room or person would have been a better tip off. In all honesty.. if i was right... i was expecting a "he visted Peeta" response, and did not get that. Frustrating trying to figure it out, but that's the hand I'm dealt. Such as it is... There HAD to be separation at some point...the writeup had to get her into the ballroom(peeta/katniss/Primrose were told to be there in the writeup) to make the assassination attempt in a way that didn't directly give away who she was. It had to be written in a way to tell the story without outright telling us who its is and how they are aligned. I believe that is what was done in this writeup. I know your whole arguement is that writeups shouldnt be trusted... but they hold at least SOME truth... And we have to comb thru them to try and find out the information. As is... you are the only mafia suspect I have, and probably the top suspect in many other's eyes... The only thing I think that can save you is a role-claim. Cause if you don't and you are town...especially a power role... I won't be embarrassed... I'll lump you with D-2 version 1.0... Shooting yourself in the foot... Now wouldn't THAT be embarrassing? Other notes: I like the idea of a nightkill of deadpool for several reasons... (assuming both are who we think they are) 1) If EM is snow... he probably cannot be night killed... whereas the seriel killer could. And if Snow CAN be night killed, the vigilante could be role blocked... So either way, it wouldn't work... 2) The president/godfather usually turns up as innocent... so if we do still have an investigator(ie - if Ritt wasn't the hunger games version of the investigator) he wouldnt be able to confirm nor deny. 3) If we are wrong about deadpool, we wouldnt get a whole lot to go on. Whereas a lynch of emoticon could yield us some really good information to work with. Only problem with this... the serial killer gets another shot tonight.
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Dec 11, 2009 15:08:28 GMT -5
EBWOP...
and for that matter... if writeups can't be trusted... what good would a tracker be?
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Dec 11, 2009 15:27:24 GMT -5
Once again... you know what they say about assuming. And boy, is it ever gonna be true here... It's lines like this one and the one above about waiting until we see what you flip once lynched that worry me -- you are making a case that you and Bundy don't get along, and he just has it out for you -- but you haven't really shown us any reason to NOT vote for you. Also, you haven't really offered an alternative on who Snow is or anything else that could help your cause. If you are town, wouldn't you be all about helping the town win? Remember, it doesn't matter if a single town member dies as long as at the end of the game, all the scum are eradicated. I think everyone keeps forgetting that -- so why not come forward with something concrete that can prove that Bundy is misguided? Until that happens, my vote will be on your head. I still have hope we can have other insight regarding this ordeal, as I feel that we have one scum ready for a lynch and we should take the time to piece together who the others are; as well as the serial killer. As for Deadpool being a serial killer -- everything is making sense thus far, and Sweet really nailed it. Hopefully we get some input from him before the end of the day. I really don't want to rush a lynch and hit another town member by mistake. As for my connection with Jonathon Michaels -- There is a connection with him, as he has flown way too under the radar for me to have any real interaction with him. I stand by my stance that he did come out and say that he was playing the game and relished the fact that he was a forgettable player. To me, the ones that want to forgettable are historically scum. I don't know why a town member would want to be forgotten.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Dec 11, 2009 15:32:48 GMT -5
EBWOP
This part has a typo:
"As for my connection with Jonathon Michaels -- There is a connection with him, as he has flown way too under the radar for me to have any real interaction with him."
It should be...
"As for my connection with Jonathon Michaels -- There is NO connection with him."
That's what I get for not proofing what I typed. :\
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Dec 11, 2009 15:40:14 GMT -5
Don't worry. If you flip town, I *will* look back at what you said. That means I'd look at Ravishing One and Al Bundy very critically, as that's who you've seemed to go toe-to-toe with most often. Also, I'll look at the remainder of your suspicion list you made. I have a couple of theories on Al Bundy so far anyway. However, Al has made a claim that I've been pursuing ever since the end of Day One and the Night One write-up. I just don't find it coincedence that another good player is having the same suspicions. I know you to be a good player to, and that's why some things haven't sit well with me. I think you're playing a great game, but unless a startling revelation occurs, I think you're my vote on this day. And on that note, it looks like you'll have the whole week to prove your case. Everyone who's active has been posting and weighed in. The rest of them won't ever show up, so there won't be an early lynch it appears. (With ritt gone too, there goes another active poster.) It's pretty much on four or five players to get the job done. Latino Meat -- will probably have more to add Al Bundy -- has made his case, so who knows what more he'll have to say Gunslinger -- will weigh in, since he's proven that he's remaining active Sweet N Sour -- sound contributions on Day Two and practically the one who made the first big revelation about Jazzman, and he'll be back for more, I assume and then you have ... Ravishing One -- worthless Deadpool -- worthless Delirious 2 -- worthless Jonathan Michaels -- I don't remember really anything he's said that added to my opinion about any other player one way or the other Michael Hayden -- is he still alive? Oblivion Sorceress -- trying, but barking up a series of imaginary trees by detracting from the most obvious line of rationale we have right now; that is, choosing to go lunging in the dark after a serial killer who NONE of us have had anything to go on scruffy -- also trying, but under his own admission, has been mislead and left scratching his head and then there is crudulak. He's been weird, randomly in and out, seemingly contributing , then taking long hiatuses. I don't remember Mr. Emoticon saying a single word about him. If Mr. Emoticon goes down at mafia, I'm looking back critically at what crudulak has had to say. I honestly don't know what to make of him yet. And from a mafia perspective, if we douse Mr. Emoticon and he's mafia, then the two remaining mafia members would have to strongly consider trying their best to root out the serial killer as well. Because the odds of his/her mark being hit at night once another mafia member is lynched goes up dramatically if we keep losing two town members for every one lynch. Also, on that note, I have a question: if the serial killer's mark has already been lynched or mafia night-killed, is that usually something that is revealed in the night write-up? Does the serial killer then just keep killing for the sake of killing? There have been several non-serial killer related deaths, and odds are that the killer's mark is going to go down VERY soon if they haven't already, so that's why I ask. If the mafia nightkills his/her mark on Night 3, then would we probably get some sort of clue in the write-up that would let us know that?? Do you realize how much your statements can insult people? I really don't think you do. It's all in game. You play the game as if it's a game. Quite honestly, your play from Day One to present could be counted as some of the scummiest, but I haven't been suspicious enough to call you out per se and build a case because I count what you're doing as "trying" and just being "off" rather than what I feel Mr. Emoticon is doing strategy-wise. And yes, I believe you're (Oblivion Soreceress) one of the people I think Emoticon is trying to play. In other words, I've felt you're just wrong, moreso than being a mafia deterrent. If nothing else, this post that I'm quoting from you is the clencher for me and adds you to my "safe list" for sure. Reading into the way you post this game and last game, I think you have a tender nature about you that you bring INTO the game, and the fact that you feel "hurt" out-of-character just confirms it all the more. If you were mafia, I doubt you could care less. But yeah, it's just how I'm playing the game; and when I play any game, I play to win. Now if you're referring to how I might be making *others* feel with the "worthless" line, then I have nothing to say about that other than I'm still speaking from an in-game perspective. In-game, those three people are absolutely worthless, and I have no idea why they even signed up (that is, if any or all three happen to turn up town; if one or all three show as mafia, then it makes perfect sense). With Deadpool though, I definitely get more of a lurker feel for him, as mentioned even prior to the Sweet N Sour revelation. And again, it explains why he hasn't been mod-killed because he's been least active of ANYone, I think. With my last post of the day (work interference for the next several hours), I don't fully believe Mr. Emoticon and his vagueness. And most importantly, remember that I think it's much better to lynch a prospective mafia member and let the vigiliante take down the Serial Killer (if my assumption is right in that there is a town vigilante out there). If we're going with the theory that Deadpool is the serial killer, then that's that. Like I said, the mafia would be stupid (ahem, that is in-game, Oblivion Sorceress *sigh*) to roleblock a vigilante attempt on a Serial Killer if you ask me, since they're just as susceptible as anyone to a nightkill, except the one likely night-kill immune player. But yeah, this is a game where emotional pulling and tugging is part of it. If you're playing the game the same way people play Bingo, then you're not playing the same game I am. Conflict of styles, not conflict of real life attitude. I don't readily "insult" so freely outside a game-type setting. But I am playing to win and *some* of my so-called teammates are letting my other teammates and me down. Also, it's obvious begging and pleading them to participate isn't doing a bit of good, so it's time to call it what it is at this point (ahem, IN-GAME). Of course, back to my question: the term I'm looking for may not actually BE "Serial Killer" but there is a very strong chance that a character has a night kill per night ability AND has a mark that they must kill in order to secure a win. Geez, I had the same task in the last game, except I just had to earn a lynch instead of FIND the actual person via nightkill. If you don't call that a "serial killer," then fine. You say tomAto, I say tomato. But I'm assuming that the "serial killer" player in question *could* be a hunter, rather than just a survivor who expects to outlast everyone. I don't spend hours a day on a wiki so I don't know what such a character would be called--"serial killer" seems halfway logical to me; this is my second game, and it makes sense to me to give a character an objective of a "mark" rather than just to be the last man/woman standing. I like the last person standing objective too, but having a mark is NOT out of the question. On that note, if my "vigilante" term isn't exactly right from up above, what I'm meaning is that I suspect that there is a town member who has a night-kill ability to use FOR the town.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Dec 11, 2009 16:12:07 GMT -5
Do you realize how much your statements can insult people? I really don't think you do. It's all in game. You play the game as if it's a game. Quite honestly, your play from Day One to present could be counted as some of the scummiest, but I haven't been suspicious enough to call you out per se and build a case because I count what you're doing as "trying" and just being "off" rather than what I feel Mr. Emoticon is doing strategy-wise. And yes, I believe you're (Oblivion Soreceress) one of the people I think Emoticon is trying to play. In other words, I've felt you're just wrong, moreso than being a mafia deterrent. If nothing else, this post that I'm quoting from you is the clencher for me and adds you to my "safe list" for sure. Reading into the way you post this game and last game, I think you have a tender nature about you that you bring INTO the game, and the fact that you feel "hurt" out-of-character just confirms it all the more. If you were mafia, I doubt you could care less. But yeah, it's just how I'm playing the game; and when I play any game, I play to win. Now if you're referring to how I might be making *others* feel with the "worthless" line, then I have nothing to say about that other than I'm still speaking from an in-game perspective. In-game, those three people are absolutely worthless, and I have no idea why they even signed up (that is, if any or all three happen to turn up town; if one or all three show as mafia, then it makes perfect sense). With Deadpool though, I definitely get more of a lurker feel for him, as mentioned even prior to the Sweet N Sour revelation. And again, it explains why he hasn't been mod-killed because he's been least active of ANYone, I think. With my last post of the day (work interference for the next several hours), I don't fully believe Mr. Emoticon and his vagueness. And most importantly, remember that I think it's much better to lynch a prospective mafia member and let the vigiliante take down the Serial Killer (if my assumption is right in that there is a town vigilante out there). If we're going with the theory that Deadpool is the serial killer, then that's that. Like I said, the mafia would be stupid (ahem, that is in-game, Oblivion Sorceress *sigh*) to roleblock a vigilante attempt on a Serial Killer if you ask me, since they're just as susceptible as anyone to a nightkill, except the one likely night-kill immune player. But yeah, this is a game where emotional pulling and tugging is part of it. If you're playing the game the same way people play Bingo, then you're not playing the same game I am. Conflict of styles, not conflict of real life attitude. I don't readily "insult" so freely outside a game-type setting. But I am playing to win and *some* of my so-called teammates are letting my other teammates and me down. Also, it's obvious begging and pleading them to participate isn't doing a bit of good, so it's time to call it what it is at this point (ahem, IN-GAME). Of course, back to my question: the term I'm looking for may not actually BE "Serial Killer" but there is a very strong chance that a character has a night kill per night ability AND has a mark that they must kill in order to secure a win. Geez, I had the same task in the last game, except I just had to earn a lynch instead of FIND the actual person via nightkill. If you don't call that a "serial killer," then fine. You say tomAto, I say tomato. But I'm assuming that the "serial killer" player in question *could* be a hunter, rather than just a survivor who expects to outlast everyone. I don't spend hours a day on a wiki so I don't know what such a character would be called--"serial killer" seems halfway logical to me; this is my second game, and it makes sense to me to give a character an objective of a "mark" rather than just to be the last man/woman standing. I like the last person standing objective too, but having a mark is NOT out of the question. On that note, if my "vigilante" term isn't exactly right from up above, what I'm meaning is that I suspect that there is a town member who has a night-kill ability to use FOR the town. The night kill ability -- didn't Gunslinger night kill Jag last night?
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Post by crudulak on Dec 11, 2009 18:04:07 GMT -5
I'm still following the thread, I just haven't had any time to contribute lately. I was working on my own case against Emoticon, but I think Bundy did a much better job. I don't have any stronger suspects right now, and I should be able to post the rest this weekend.
It makes sense that Emoticon should be lynched, and Deadpool nightkilled (deja who?) The only potential problem I see is that the next target of the vigilante would be open knowledge.
If we're going to openly coordinate town power roles, I suggest that the vigilante should target (or not) whoever he wants. It would be a big gamble that there are other power roles that can deal with Deadpool if the vigilante doesn't, so I won't be surprised if this idea is turned down. I'm just worried that something could go wrong, like Deadpool getting off the first shot or the mafia preparing a trap.
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Dec 11, 2009 18:12:05 GMT -5
I'm still following the thread, I just haven't had any time to contribute lately. I was working on my own case against Emoticon, but I think Bundy did a much better job. I don't have any stronger suspects right now, and I should be able to post the rest this weekend. It makes sense that Emoticon should be lynched, and Deadpool nightkilled (deja who?) The only potential problem I see is that the next target of the vigilante would be open knowledge. If we're going to openly coordinate town power roles, I suggest that the vigilante should target (or not) whoever he wants. It would be a big gamble that there are other power roles that can deal with Deadpool if the vigilante doesn't, so I won't be surprised if this idea is turned down. I'm just worried that something could go wrong, like Deadpool getting off the first shot or the mafia preparing a trap. I'm not opposed to your suggestion, but if we aren't going to do both... I'd much rather lynch the potential SK... as we could preserve one extra town/tribute that way.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Dec 11, 2009 19:09:08 GMT -5
I know your whole arguement is that writeups shouldnt be trusted... but they hold at least SOME truth... And we have to comb thru them to try and find out the information. Just keep in mind what you find when I'm lynched. According to the write-ups, Snow participated in the lynching of both D2 and Jazzman... and I'm the only unconfirmed Townie to have voted in both cases. By the logic of write-ups being accurate reflections of actions, that means I am the only possible choice to be Snow, yes? But when you learn that I'm not Snow... what then? That goes completely against the write-ups. And if THAT goes completely against the write-ups... what else does? Do you see what I'm saying? People want to use the write-ups as a guide to catching Mafia; they want it to be easy. But it's not. To catch Mafia, you need to actually catch them... not just go "___ appeared in the write-up, and ___ voted, so ___ must be ___!" Cause I can tell you from first-hand knowledge of this that it isn't going to work. The Mod's not going to make it so easy on you and hard on the Mafia. It wouldn't be much of a game if she did. Likely, the only truth about player actions written into the write-ups are the ones of people who are confirmed, as then there's no danger of blowing their cover. As is... you are the only mafia suspect I have, and probably the top suspect in many other's eyes... The only thing I think that can save you is a role-claim. Cause if you don't and you are town...especially a power role... I won't be embarrassed... I'll lump you with D-2 version 1.0... Shooting yourself in the foot... Now wouldn't THAT be embarrassing? My situation is quite different from D2 1.0's. I didn't do some great blunder that got people's attention; I'm in the cross-hairs because of the write-ups, and nothing else. If Snow didn't appear in the write-ups, this entire case would have never been thought up (though Bundy would still likely suspect me, since he's twice now complained about me not agreeing with him). And as I don't control the write-ups, it can't be said that I created my own doom. Also, a role-claim on my part won't do bupkiss, though I probably will do it at some point. I'm not a Cop or an Inventor or Bullet Proof or anything like that. I'm just Joe Schmoe Townie... and can you honestly tell me that me giving you a name will call the dogs off here? Tell you what, though, Sweet. If you want to lynch Deadpool because you think he's the SK, do it. I'm not so sure you're right on it, but I like to think that I'm of more use to the Town than Deadpool is. And if you DO decide to vote for and lynch him... I won't vote at all. Then, if Snow doesn't appear in the write-ups... you can decide that I'm lying. BUT... if Snow does appear, despite my inaction, you'll see that I'm right, and that he isn't mirroring my actions; he's just in the write-ups due to being the main villain. Not that I think you could dredge up enough support for such a plan even if you wanted to. People want my head; that's plain to see. The only way these same people are going to start seeing sense and start actually looking for the Mafia is if they get it, see that it wasn't what they thought, and take to heart the lesson that is learned.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Dec 11, 2009 19:29:48 GMT -5
Once again... you know what they say about assuming. And boy, is it ever gonna be true here... It's lines like this one and the one above about waiting until we see what you flip once lynched that worry me -- you are making a case that you and Bundy don't get along, and he just has it out for you -- but you haven't really shown us any reason to NOT vote for you. Also, you haven't really offered an alternative on who Snow is or anything else that could help your cause. If you are town, wouldn't you be all about helping the town win? Remember, it doesn't matter if a single town member dies as long as at the end of the game, all the scum are eradicated. I think everyone keeps forgetting that -- so why not come forward with something concrete that can prove that Bundy is misguided? Until that happens, my vote will be on your head. Like I said in the beginning, the case against me is ingenious in that it can't really be proven or disproven until the lynch. His entire case is that I voted twice and Snow appeared twice. I can't argue that Snow didn't appear or that I didn't vote. I can only make the two following statements: 1.) Main villains tend to appear in write-ups for drama, as write-ups are basically the Mod's fan-fiction regarding these events (no offense to her, of course). And, as some may recall, it's happened like that in previous games. 2.) Some actions in the write-ups can't possibly mirror real player actions. Sweet's spotting of numerous shadowy figures in last night's write-up, for instance. One might be explained by his Tracking ability, but he can only track one target... meaning there is no explanation for the second other than that the Mod put that in there for story purposes only. And if we know for a fact that some actions aren't mirrors, then building a case on such potential mirrors is deeply flawed. Problem is, the same people who think I'm Snow don't want to consider using patterns built on previous games, meaning they won't listen to point one. And I just made point two to Sweet, and he didn't seem to bat an eye at it. And as for Bundy's second point (that I disagree with him a lot, and that's scummy), I showed over a dozen points where we've agreed, disagreed, or not really gone one way or the other. You can decide for yourself if I've made it my aim to go against him all of the time or if you think he's over-reacting. I've also pointed out how being confirmed Townie doesn't mean being right, but nobody wants to listen. Bundy was wrong about D2 and jag; yet people seem sure that he can't possibly be wrong about me, and thus support a case that partially rests on disagreeing with him being scummy, despite there being clear fact that he (like any of us) has been wrong despite being Town. From that series of notes about Jazzman, though, here's one in my favor: he pointed a finger of suspicion at me. Flimsy, I know, but it's something, and it helps that it's actually true that he and I aren't Mafia buddies. But, I don't expect that to do much good here, as it's flimsy evidence. And I keep pointing out that the truth will come out once I'm lynched because I feel that such truth can help the Town. Maybe once you see I'm not Snow, you'll consider my words in a new light; thus, in death, I can serve the Town. THAT is why I keep making such comments, as I want to drive that thought home and make sure it's remembered. Like I've said, I don't believe Deadpool to be the Serial Killer. But, if you're convinced of it, go for it. Maybe it'll give me a chance to prove that the write-ups aren't reflecting my actions the way people think they are. I agree with you whole-heartedly. In fact, that particular point about your connection works in your favor; it shows that if he's Mafia, you might not be. Just like how, since Ravishing voted for you, you're likely not Mafia if he is. But then, he did seem to randomly place his faith in you as being Town, and random, blind faith like that makes me curious.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Dec 11, 2009 19:34:11 GMT -5
Also, Sweet, Mafia Godfather's typically only have 1 power: they turn up innocent in investigations. They're able to be night-killed, though. So, again, if you're so sure Deadpool is the SK, lynch him. When Snow doesn't appear in the following write-up, you'll know I've been right this whole time. If Snow does appear, you can have the vigilante night-kill me. Either way, we'd both end up dead... but you have the chance of keeping me alive and proving my innocence in one fell swoop, and if you agree with pegasuswarrior about my skill then it's something you might want to see happen.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2009 19:53:15 GMT -5
ok quite a bit has happened since i left... i'm going to talk about the part that i believe matters the most. Sweet, your power is a good one to have and i'd hate to think that you've role claimed only for everyone to toss it aside.
as i said before the serial killer is our greatest threat... if we have a chance to get rid of him i believe we should take it.
i stated before that i believed it to be Deadpool or Ravishing... and if i got any update on either of them then my vote was most likely going to go that way instead of a lynch of the mob boss because honestly this back and forth between these two has indeed left me scratching my head... i'm more inclined to believe Bundy... but MEM has brought up some great points.
right now i'm on the edge... i don't know whether to vote for MEM or Deadpool... my gut says to go for Deadpool but so far in this game my gut hasn't lead me in the right direction which causes me to rethink and want to vote for MEM.
I have a lot of thinking to do before i vote...
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Dec 11, 2009 20:00:48 GMT -5
Like I said... vote Deadpool if that's what you think we should do, either because of your gut or because you think the SK is the bigger potential threat. Then, depending upon the write-ups, you can have either more rope with which to hang me or you can keep yourself from offing a player who's been bustin' his balls trying to hunt down the Mafia. Since it seems we have a Vigilante on our side, it's not like you can't see both me and Deadpool dead by the next Day phase anyways; but, if you give me a reprieve, you give me a chance to prove I'm innocent, as at this point (ironically enough) only the write-ups can save me.
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Post by Oak: Certified Jade Hater on Dec 11, 2009 20:41:41 GMT -5
I can't do much right now (using an iPhone), but something came to my attention.
Emoticon said something to the effect of actions during the day phase don't necessarily affect the write-up, which I disagree with. Back in the last game, I voted against Damien Demento late in the game. The write-up had Madison (myself) take part in Demento's death. So it stands to reason that should Snow be involved in the lynch, the write-up would reflect that.
I know there was talk of whether or not to use past experience in mafia games, but it seems worth mentioning.
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Post by ♥ Bunnyslinger ♥ on Dec 11, 2009 20:47:06 GMT -5
If we're going to openly coordinate town power roles, I suggest that the vigilante should target (or not) whoever he wants. It would be a big gamble that there are other power roles that can deal with Deadpool if the vigilante doesn't, so I won't be surprised if this idea is turned down. I'm just worried that something could go wrong, like Deadpool getting off the first shot or the mafia preparing a trap. Sure, that would be a major concern, unless say the Vigilante is unkillable at night. I can't do much right now (using an iPhone), but something came to my attention. Emoticon said something to the effect of actions during the day phase don't necessarily affect the write-up, which I disagree with. Back in the last game, I voted against Damien Demento late in the game. The write-up had Madison (myself) take part in Demento's death. So it stands to reason that should Snow be involved in the lynch, the write-up would reflect that. I know there was talk of whether or not to use past experience in mafia games, but it seems worth mentioning. yes, but wasn't that game GM'd by someone else? so, different GM's, different scenario altogether?
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Oak: Certified Jade Hater
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Post by Oak: Certified Jade Hater on Dec 11, 2009 20:50:48 GMT -5
It was actually modded by Al Bundy.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Dec 11, 2009 20:57:27 GMT -5
Oops, looking back, I see I am mistaken. Blade was the Mafia member who appeared in the Day One lynch write-up of the first Day despite Deadpool not having voted, not Madison.
Wrong Mafia member, but my point still stands. Mafia members appearing in write-ups don't necessarily match up with players voting. Give me a chance to survive this lynch and not vote, and you'll see that for yourself.
Or, you can lynch me anyways, without giving the plan a chance. You'll learn the same lesson, but at a cost. And Town... mark well who makes you pay this cost.
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Oak: Certified Jade Hater
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Post by Oak: Certified Jade Hater on Dec 11, 2009 21:03:23 GMT -5
Hmm... I'm willing to give Emoticon the benefit of the doubt (for now), but he stll gets an FOS from me.
As for an actual vote, call this a half prodding/half suspicious vote.
Vote: Deadpool
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Dec 11, 2009 21:16:06 GMT -5
As of right now, I don't know 100% who to believe between Al Bundy and MEM.
But it seems as though we can agree on something right now.
FOS : Deadpool
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