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Post by Allison Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 8:57:17 GMT -5
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Dec 5, 2009 9:08:35 GMT -5
I can kinda see the logic behind keeping Jazzman alive... but I disagree with it, especially since we don't know if Jazzman is a Mafia power role like a Role-Blocker or something. It's best to just lynch him now and get it over with.
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Post by OblivionSorceress on Dec 5, 2009 9:17:33 GMT -5
I can kinda see the logic behind keeping Jazzman alive... but I disagree with it, especially since we don't know if Jazzman is a Mafia power role like a Role-Blocker or something. It's best to just lynch him now and get it over with. They have that in the mafia? Interesting, I never knew that. Seems I learn something new everyday. So that just gives us more reason to take out a known mafia because we may hit such a power role. Wait...didn't Ritt only say he knew he was guilty and that it was never specified whether Jazz was mafia or third party? Oh never mind, I think I get what your say, your saying it's a possibility. Not that you actually know that he's mafia; I think that's what your suggesting.
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Post by ♥ Bunnyslinger ♥ on Dec 5, 2009 9:41:43 GMT -5
I can kinda see the logic behind keeping Jazzman alive... but I disagree with it, especially since we don't know if Jazzman is a Mafia power role like a Role-Blocker or something. It's best to just lynch him now and get it over with. They have that in the mafia? Interesting, I never knew that. Seems I learn something new everyday. So that just gives us more reason to take out a known mafia because we may hit such a power role. Wait...didn't Ritt only say he knew he was guilty and that it was never specified whether Jazz was mafia or third party? Oh never mind, I think I get what your say, your saying it's a possibility. Not that you actually know that he's mafia; I think that's what your suggesting. He said his name was Cato, and the name of the 3rd party appears to be Enobaria, so he should flip mafia, possible power role of course. we'll see.
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Post by OblivionSorceress on Dec 5, 2009 10:06:20 GMT -5
They have that in the mafia? Interesting, I never knew that. Seems I learn something new everyday. So that just gives us more reason to take out a known mafia because we may hit such a power role. Wait...didn't Ritt only say he knew he was guilty and that it was never specified whether Jazz was mafia or third party? Oh never mind, I think I get what your say, your saying it's a possibility. Not that you actually know that he's mafia; I think that's what your suggesting. He said his name was Cato, and the name of the 3rd party appears to be Enobaria, so he should flip mafia, possible power role of course. we'll see. Oh yeah, I totally didn't connect that. >.< I'm up too early for how late I went to bed. lol. So that makes sense that he would be mafia, unless there was another third party or something but I don't think there usually is.
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Post by OblivionSorceress on Dec 5, 2009 10:07:39 GMT -5
Lol, according to the list of players still alive it appears I'm not.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Dec 5, 2009 10:18:47 GMT -5
I can kinda see the logic behind keeping Jazzman alive... but I disagree with it, especially since we don't know if Jazzman is a Mafia power role like a Role-Blocker or something. It's best to just lynch him now and get it over with. They have that in the mafia? Interesting, I never knew that. Seems I learn something new everyday. So that just gives us more reason to take out a known mafia because we may hit such a power role. Wait...didn't Ritt only say he knew he was guilty and that it was never specified whether Jazz was mafia or third party? Oh never mind, I think I get what your say, your saying it's a possibility. Not that you actually know that he's mafia; I think that's what your suggesting. Yeah, Mafia can have power roles, too. They always have a Godfather, unless I'm mistaken, and they also usually have a Role-Blocker. Once, when I was Mafia in a previous game, there was a Janitor as well, and I'm sure there are other possibilities. But, we're unlikely to see too many Mafia power roles, purely because there can't be that many Mafia members in a game this size.
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Dec 5, 2009 11:15:45 GMT -5
Wow - what a change from yesterday. Seems my small hunch was right after all.
I do not see any sound logic to not vote a known mafia member over rolling the dice and trying to hit another. Protecting scum... obviously... sounds pretty scummy.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Dec 5, 2009 11:26:00 GMT -5
Majority Needed For Lynch Reached.
Final Vote Count Results:
Jazzman - 10 (Sweet N' Sour, Michael Hayden, Ritt, D2, Mr.Emoticon Man, Crudulak, Oblivion Sorceress, Pegasus Warrior, Jonathan Michaels, Al Bundy, Gunslinger) Ritt - 1 (Ravishing One)
Tributes not voting: Jagiliki Latino Meat Jazzman Scruffy Deadpool
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Exceeding the minimum amount of votes for a lynch at ELEVEN (11), the audience has voted, Tribute, Jazzman to be lynched.
Well with the chance the night does take me time to start setting things in motion for the town on day 3. I truly believe Micheal Hayden is town. He voted for Jazzman pushing him into threatened territory when a vote for me or Jag or even no vote would have kept Jazz a known mafia safe for another night. I started out believing D2 2.0 was town. I just did not think it likely that with four votes on myself a townie that 2 of them would be mafia. Then again getting the vote in early doesn't lookas band-wagonish. Plus his unvote seemed a little random. Add in the fact that he had 4 suspects, the non-claimed who voted for him and of those the one he commented on relatively little was Jazzman. Even though Sweet had already made a case against him. Even after he started getting more and more pressure and votes. Even after he made the questionable role claim. I admit that may just be because I played myself up as scum to him, but still I am not as sure of him as I was before I started playing scummy. Scruffy also randomly unvoted me after Jazzman's roleclaim when I unvoted Jazz and he unvoted me. Why did I get unvoted because the person he was voting with and the one I was voting against roleclaimed. It would have made sense if he didn't believe Jazz, but it wasn't Jazz he was calling for it was Ravishing. Now if Ravishing is town and just voted scummily by chance it might make me a little nervous too if me and another mafia were the only ones voting for that target, as D2 had already unvoted me. Jag, I still don't know crap and with his long history in these games that scares me. I have so many theories. He is a multi-time mvp. Why would someone be voted best player play to lose. First or second day martyr aint going to win any awards unless a) jester or b) he is scum with a plan to get himself killed by a coalition of mafia who can then pose as the ultimate defenders of town and lead the drop in voters like Johnathon Micheals and Ravishing and Scruffy around by the nose into lynching off or forcing role claims from all of the town. Jazz did have an early vote for Jag. Now that would be a truly game changing sacrifice.
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Post by D2: Sweet & Sour Edition on Dec 5, 2009 11:31:23 GMT -5
Needed to get a random thought in before I head off to a wrestling show: Another idea popped in my head... do we let Jazzman live and try to root out another scum? We can kill him off on Day 3, or Day 4 or whatever... giving us a chance to not lynch him as we still have 2 more days to figure out who else is scum? Just some theories. and giving him the chance to use any night abilities he might have? Yes, that's a wonderful idea...Señor Padrino!!
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Post by psychotix5000 on Dec 5, 2009 11:41:28 GMT -5
Needed to get a random thought in before I head off to a wrestling show: and giving him the chance to use any night abilities he might have? Yes, that's a wonderful idea...Señor Padrino!! This still bugs me. Why keep a mafia member alive and lynch someone random? If Jazzman does flip as a mafia power role then I know who I'm voting for tomorrow.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Dec 5, 2009 12:34:59 GMT -5
Needed to get a random thought in before I head off to a wrestling show: Yes, that's a wonderful idea...Señor Padrino!! This still bugs me. Why keep a mafia member alive and lynch someone random? If Jazzman does flip as a mafia power role then I know who I'm voting for tomorrow. Yeah this along with a few other things stick out strong, but I don't think we should start our day three votes yet. I still think there is a good chance we have at least one mafia and/or the serial killer just lurking on the fringes and I don't want to give them another easy day. Especially, if we have another obvious consensus it makes fringe play so much easier. I would like to hear other peoples takes on some of the other players.
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Post by ♥ Bunnyslinger ♥ on Dec 5, 2009 12:42:40 GMT -5
Jagilki does little of anything, so even if he is town we wouldn't be losing much. His lurkingness makes me think he's not jester either, you'd think a jester would be active and try to attract votes all the time.
Deadpool was back, seems to be gone again.
Ravishing still makes my spider sense tingle.
Latino Meats keeping Jazzman alive thing is scummy.
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Post by crudulak on Dec 5, 2009 12:47:32 GMT -5
I don't see any benefit to the town from not lynching Jazzman. Latino Meat got some splainin to do.
It seems like everything could easily change by Day Three, and I don't have much except for gut with my top suspects: jagilki, Emoticon, and Hayden with Scruffy or Deadpool as the wildcards. Depending on Meat's response, he'll get added to that list as well.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Dec 5, 2009 13:00:31 GMT -5
I'll tell you that in no way are Jag and I linked except for that we are both talkative townies willing to bring ideas into the forum for shopping. This also is a bit more interesting to me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2009 13:06:29 GMT -5
ok i missed a HELL of a lot.
it seems i messed up while voting for you before Ritt. i already explained why i did and why i didn't but the reason i didn't was because this day i was voting on whom wasn't helping the town.
but thats over and done with now. i messed up badly and my gut has turned out to be completely wrong... at least on Ritt's case. sorry for not believing you earlier.
so looking directly to the third day... this gives us a hell of a lot to go off of.
i do not understand the logic in keeping a known Mafia member alive at all... whats the point?
ok... so now i feel i should give my views on where some people stand.
already did Ritt... so
D2: we've already lynched him once because of what we thought was a scummy move and he flipped town... yet now he's up there on my list again because his play seems too erratic.
Deadpool: is basically the ultimate lurker. i have no read on him so far besides that... which worries me.
Al Bundy/Gunslinger: townies... i will trust basically anything they say.
Latino: i still get the read that he's a jumpy townie... still that last comment was a little out there and shouldn't be forgotten
Oblivion: i believe she's town... i don't have much of a read on her but her style of play hasn't seemed scummy to me at all yet.
Jag: i believe he's at least a third party. he may not be mafia but i believe he's a third party... just doesn't seem like he has the towns best interests at all.
Ravishing: according to some of you guys the way he's playing is just the way he played last game... but it still seems scummy plus doesn't help the town in any way.
everyone else... i basically have no read on them right now.
that is basically all my thoughts as of this time.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Dec 5, 2009 13:41:51 GMT -5
i want to also address JM's reason for lurking... I WAS TRYING TO BE FORGETTABLE! THAT'S HOW YOU AVOID BEING KILLED BY THE MAFIA! Dang it. UNVOTE
VOTE: JAZZMANYou do know that theory is kind of...well let's see what night 1 had to say about that... Tfmcmg aka Plutarch Heavensbee, District Rebel. (Killed Night 1; stabbed & throat slashed) Might as well try to help the town, you are still the winner if your side wins even if you are dead.
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Post by Jazzman on Dec 5, 2009 16:05:57 GMT -5
Well, gentlemen, it is thread two and I really have no reason to death post as it is all out in the open. I wish all of you good luck and with that I saunter off into the night.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Dec 5, 2009 16:26:41 GMT -5
Jagilki does little of anything, so even if he is town we wouldn't be losing much. His lurkingness makes me think he's not jester either, you'd think a jester would be active and try to attract votes all the time. Deadpool was back, seems to be gone again. Ravishing still makes my spider sense tingle. Latino Meats keeping Jazzman alive thing is scummy. Ok, you guys need to relax... it was just a theory. I put it out there to see what everyone thought, and it looks like everyone would rather claim me as scum rather than have a rational discussion about it. It seems that Mr Emoticon Man is the only person that actually read what I wrote. *sigh* You all missed my train of thought before that -- why lynch him last night when we hadn't heard from all of the participants in the game and their reactions to what was disclosed? Why not use the advantage of knowing someone that was scum and try to pry other scum out of the woodwork? We rushed this lynch, I feel, and that is going to hurt us as we are now not going to be able to discuss things with each other now that Night is about to take effect. I see a bandwagon is about to start on me on Day 3, and I welcome it. I welcomed it in Day 2 as well, so you could all move on from me and move onto people that can actually hurt the town.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Dec 5, 2009 16:32:38 GMT -5
I WAS TRYING TO BE FORGETTABLE! THAT'S HOW YOU AVOID BEING KILLED BY THE MAFIA! Dang it. UNVOTE
VOTE: JAZZMANWhy would you want to be forgettable if you were town? How does that help the town?
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