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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Dec 3, 2009 19:51:32 GMT -5
Ok, I guess it's time to come clean. I do have a power role in this game which makes me unafraid of Mafia members, I'm bulletproof like Masters in the last game. That's why I was hoping to draw mafia attention to me knowing that they couldn't do anything. Honestly, this no makes me of little use to others and will serve as only a bigger beacon to me, but I feel like the time to do this is now. Well now... I guess this is going to change things, at least for now. I wish we could have heard more from Ravishing, Jag, Jonathon, and especially Deadpool, before you pulled this gambit.
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Dec 3, 2009 20:29:53 GMT -5
Official Vote Count:
Jazzman - 3 (Sweet N' Sour, Ritt, Michael Hayden) Mr. Emoticon Man - 1 (Al Bundy) Ritt - 3 (Scruffy, Jazzman, Ravishing One) Jagiliki - 2 (Crudulak, Jonathan Michaels)
Tributes not voting: Jagiliki Oblivion Sorceress Gunslinger Latino Meat Pegasus Warrior Mr. Emoticon Man D2 Deadpool
With 17 alive it will take 9 votes to lynch.
Deadline will be Tuesday, December 8th, 11:00 PM HST.
Jagiliki will be sent a prodding, as per request.
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Post by Jazzman on Dec 3, 2009 21:01:25 GMT -5
Well guys, I'm sorry, but lurker votes and theories forced my hand. I really wish I didn't have to do it, but it had to be done.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Dec 3, 2009 21:09:11 GMT -5
Also anyone else notice how whenever i come up with a theory or suggestion Emoticon goes the opposite direction to "provide different angles?" For clarity, you mind pointing out all theories and suggestions you've made, as well as how I contradicted them? I can really only think of two, if that. Anyways... here's my suspect list. Make of it what you will. Ravishing - Lurks and then votes, then lurks some more. Might just be his play style, as others have said, but that just doesn't sit right. Jagiliki - I still think the "he downplayed his skill; HE'S SCUM!" argument is short-sighted as hell, but his inactivity and seemingly uncaring attitude towards a possible lynch don't sit well with me; could be that he's just trying to coast by without participating while bluffing his way out of the noose. Jonathan - He's forgettable. That makes my guts twist, and I've learned to follow my guts.
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Post by ♥ Bunnyslinger ♥ on Dec 3, 2009 21:27:32 GMT -5
Ravishing - Lurks and then votes, then lurks some more. Might just be his play style, as others have said, but that just doesn't sit right. Jagiliki - I still think the "he downplayed his skill; HE'S SCUM!" argument is short-sighted as hell, but his inactivity and seemingly uncaring attitude towards a possible lynch don't sit well with me; could be that he's just trying to coast by without participating while bluffing his way out of the noose. Jonathan - He's forgettable. That makes my guts twist, and I've learned to follow my guts. I agree on all of these. Ravishing - all the things you said, also doesn't really add a reason for his vote, just vaguely refers to the ongoing discussion Jagilki - Yes, my only worry would be that he might be a jester, of course we can't know if there is one in this game. Jonathan - Indeed, very forgettable. Would be nice to hear something from Deadpool now that he's finally back.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Dec 3, 2009 21:29:30 GMT -5
My only concern with Ravishing is that it's too obvious. It could just as easily be bad, distracted Townee play as Mafia play, though it could also be him banking on us thinking so.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Dec 3, 2009 22:12:23 GMT -5
Well for the time being I guess I should... UNVOTE
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Post by Jazzman on Dec 3, 2009 23:07:33 GMT -5
I too will UNVOTE
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2009 23:10:53 GMT -5
well i think i have some decision making to do... while i still do think Ritt is scum i have a better feeling about some others right now... that being Ravishing and Jag mostly for the reasons stated above... i still am just concerned that Ravishing basically pops in right after i vote to vote for the same person without giving reason... it just doesn't sit well with me seems too scummy but Jag... besides what he says... he isn't helping the town at all and just the way he's been acting just seems to scream that he's a third party...
also i dunno if it was the best time to reveal something like that Jazz... but thats a great useful power to have for town if true.
but for now... until i make a firm decision... i too will
UNVOTE
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Dec 3, 2009 23:47:04 GMT -5
Ok, I guess it's time to come clean. I do have a power role in this game which makes me unafraid of Mafia members, I'm bulletproof like Masters in the last game. That's why I was hoping to draw mafia attention to me knowing that they couldn't do anything. Honestly, this no makes me of little use to others and will serve as only a bigger beacon to me, but I feel like the time to do this is now. So you're completely unkillable at night? that's useful. It's also a superb fake claim for mafia, since we'd all most likely be too scared to lynch someone who makes that claim on account of town being the only ones who can kill you. It really is an easy role for Mafia (or 3rd Party) to fake-claim, if you think about it. Hopefully that's not the case here, but it still might be worth keeping in mind later in the game. Also, off topic, but one of my students showed up today with the book that this version of the Mafia game is based on; gave me a bit of a chuckle.
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Dec 4, 2009 0:38:04 GMT -5
PW could you elaborate on the links a little bit more. Are you saying if I am town Latino is scum or my being town would mean he is likely town? Also how do Jazz/Jag link up? Although I probably shouldn't be coming to his defense as he is the most likely to take votes off of me, and he is one who has voted for me in the most blatantly scummy way, I am nervous about Ravishing. He seems to be taking a lot of momentum and hasn't chipped in much. Strangely enough I am more comfortable with the heat on me then a bandwagon on him at the moment. If I am killed I will flip town (I know that's what we all say) then the town has something to work off of with what I have said. If Ravishing takes the bandwagon straight to the noose and flips town that leaves us in about the same sinking ship we were in after day one. I think the link being alluded to was the debate Jag and I had on day 1 where we were both being really aggressive to figure some stuff out and traded ideas and played the blame game with each other. Same thin has gone on, to an extent of course, with you and Meat. More or less that is what I was getting at. I just rattled off two fronts of conversation that stood out so I could use them as examples. The important point of my post was to make a worthwhile lynch that will get us somewhere. I'm just trying to open the door for conversation about links between or among people that will get us the MOST answers after a lynch. I'm not proposing who exactly that might be at this point, but I did share two pairs of links, and I guess I'm just looking to see if people are willing enough to go this route and see if there are any better links out there. As the next week progresses, let's be sure to analyze what our lynch vote leaders will actually provide information-wise if they are the eventual lynchees. If there is someone that will help more than a current vote leader, then I propose we reconsider who would be in the best position to blow the game more wide open with a more direct link to other players.
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Dec 4, 2009 9:37:11 GMT -5
Ok, I guess it's time to come clean. I do have a power role in this game which makes me unafraid of Mafia members, I'm bulletproof like Masters in the last game. That's why I was hoping to draw mafia attention to me knowing that they couldn't do anything. Honestly, this no makes me of little use to others and will serve as only a bigger beacon to me, but I feel like the time to do this is now. Did you do something to try and draw attention towards you? I think I missed it if you did.
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Post by psychotix5000 on Dec 4, 2009 11:30:39 GMT -5
I find it very interesting that Jazzman claimed to be a townie with a power role yet did not mention his character name. Methinks maybe he's scared that someone might counter claim. If he's truly town, why not give a name like I did? For now, I think he's fake claiming until proven otherwise.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Dec 4, 2009 11:40:46 GMT -5
I find it very interesting that Jazzman claimed to be a townie with a power role yet did not mention his character name. Methinks maybe he's scared that someone might counter claim. If he's truly town, why not give a name like I did? For now, I think he's fake claiming until proven otherwise. But why would someone counter-claim is Jazzman is lying about his role? Wouldn't that just make them a target for the mafia and serial killers out there as well?
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Dec 4, 2009 11:50:51 GMT -5
I find it very interesting that Jazzman claimed to be a townie with a power role yet did not mention his character name. Methinks maybe he's scared that someone might counter claim. If he's truly town, why not give a name like I did? For now, I think he's fake claiming until proven otherwise. I agree with this... If he was really trying to use his claimed ability... it would be relatively easy to get the mafia to target him. Anywhere from hinting at a power role to out right claiming a power role would have put him on the mafia's rader. By claiming the role that he did, he basically tells the mafia NOT to target him now... thus doing to opposite of what he was claiming to attempt to do. As for his claim, his role would be alot easier to bluff than coming up with a name that isn't used by someone else.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Dec 4, 2009 11:55:27 GMT -5
I find it very interesting that Jazzman claimed to be a townie with a power role yet did not mention his character name. Methinks maybe he's scared that someone might counter claim. If he's truly town, why not give a name like I did? For now, I think he's fake claiming until proven otherwise. Good point.
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Post by psychotix5000 on Dec 4, 2009 15:07:01 GMT -5
If someone counter claimed that would make jazzman ripe to be lynched. Mafia would be stupid to counter claim if jazz is town because that would make them ripe for lynching the next day. Also our protector role (i believe we have one it would be odd to not have one in this game) could protect the counterclaimer from retribution by the mafia.
How about it jazzman? As the famous song goes "who are you?"
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Dec 4, 2009 15:47:30 GMT -5
And what if Jazzman is a townie bluffing. Perhaps he is the investigator and whom probably uncovered a townie last night. If that is the case maybe someone else I targetted was town and he is trying to protect them by voting me. Its obvious he did not investigate me in this scenario. Or maybe he is the protector and if he can stay alive the whole game then so can one other townie. He did make his claim while not leading in votes. And at the time he was facing some questioning but wasn't drawing nearly the heat Ravishing was.
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Dec 4, 2009 16:06:24 GMT -5
And what if Jazzman is a townie bluffing. Perhaps he is the investigator and whom probably uncovered a townie last night. If that is the case maybe someone else I targetted was town and he is trying to protect them by voting me. Its obvious he did not investigate me in this scenario. Or maybe he is the protector and if he can stay alive the whole game then so can one other townie. He did make his claim while not leading in votes. And at the time he was facing some questioning but wasn't drawing nearly the heat Ravishing was. He was tied for the lead with votes, and one vote/unvote could change the outcome of the lynch. So he wasnt exactly free and clear when he claimed. Until I hear a name, i'm calling his bluff.
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Post by ♥ Bunnyslinger ♥ on Dec 4, 2009 16:25:45 GMT -5
*echoes request for name*
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