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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Dec 4, 2009 16:52:47 GMT -5
If someone counter claimed that would make jazzman ripe to be lynched. Mafia would be stupid to counter claim if jazz is town because that would make them ripe for lynching the next day. Also our protector role (i believe we have one it would be odd to not have one in this game) could protect the counterclaimer from retribution by the mafia. How about it jazzman? As the famous song goes "who are you?" Wasn't Oblivion Sorceress a roleblocker/protector? She was killed off on Day 1.
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Post by crudulak on Dec 4, 2009 17:09:27 GMT -5
I'll add my voice to those wanting to know Jazzman's character name. Should he paraphrase his character's background too? I'm not familiar with the source material, but someone who is might find that info useful for verification.
I still think jagilki is the best choice for a lynch today, but I'm thinking I should start using my vote as a lurker prod.
Unvote
Vote: Deadpool
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Dec 4, 2009 19:01:49 GMT -5
I'll add my voice to those wanting to know Jazzman's character name. Should he paraphrase his character's background too? I'm not familiar with the source material, but someone who is might find that info useful for verification. I still think jagilki is the best choice for a lynch today, but I'm thinking I should start using my vote as a lurker prod. Unvote
Vote: DeadpoolAgreed Vote: Deadpool
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Post by D2: Sweet & Sour Edition on Dec 4, 2009 19:05:19 GMT -5
My only concern with Jazz giving a name is, what if that's who the Serial Killer is targeting? Unless I'm reading it wrong, is he COMPLETELY night kill proof, or just Mafia night kill proof?
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Post by ♥ Bunnyslinger ♥ on Dec 4, 2009 19:24:39 GMT -5
My only concern with Jazz giving a name is, what if that's who the Serial Killer is targeting? Unless I'm reading it wrong, is he COMPLETELY night kill proof, or just Mafia night kill proof? Who knows, might be that he just has like an item that makes him unkillable one night. Or maybe he can never be NK'd. I'm considering getting on the deadpool pressure wagon just to see if that gets him talking, I'm still really unsure about the game at this point though.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Dec 4, 2009 19:28:25 GMT -5
My only concern with Jazz giving a name is, what if that's who the Serial Killer is targeting? Unless I'm reading it wrong, is he COMPLETELY night kill proof, or just Mafia night kill proof? That's a good point. I don't even think he really needed to reveal the info he did and pressing for more info may lead to trouble. It could also lead to mafia pressuring our power roles out. Isn't that one of the reasons people were throwing suspicions at MeM for pressing for more info off role claim on day 1? If he does flip as unkillable at night that will turn my entire suspect list upside down.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Dec 4, 2009 19:39:23 GMT -5
If someone counter claimed that would make jazzman ripe to be lynched. Mafia would be stupid to counter claim if jazz is town because that would make them ripe for lynching the next day. Also our protector role (i believe we have one it would be odd to not have one in this game) could protect the counterclaimer from retribution by the mafia. How about it jazzman? As the famous song goes "who are you?" Wasn't Oblivion Sorceress a roleblocker/protector? She was killed off on Day 1. Role-blockers and protection roles aren't the same thing. Role-blockers block someone from committing a night action; they don't protect who they target.
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Post by psychotix5000 on Dec 4, 2009 19:47:43 GMT -5
I'm only asking for a name not what his abilities are (if any). And OblivionSorceress v1 was a roleblocker, not a protector. And as for the SK needing to kill a specific person please reread the write up. NOWHERE does it hint that the SK needs to off a particular person.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Dec 4, 2009 23:40:47 GMT -5
Well I hate to say it but it seems we have come to another lull. It is pretty much just the same few of us participating,and with the possibility of a weak weekend turn out I guess it is time to make my move.
Unvote
Vote Jazzman
I'll be back in a few minutes to post why.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Dec 4, 2009 23:42:08 GMT -5
I typed this up a few days ago on notepad and have been sitting on it with it saved on my desktop for awhile, in case things started moving to fast. Well here goes... Confession time. I do have a master plan. It does involve trying to start bandwagons on a towny. However I did not invoke it on day 1. I started invoking it on this day. I wanted to build a bandwagon against myself. The problem is Sweet and Sour threw a wrench into my plans. So I tried to bandwagon onto his vote to look suspicious. Still just some FOS with my name thrown in with other people and nothing else. Jag called for an early bandwagon shortly after and called out Tea randomly when he could have just jumped on Jazz so I don't know if that was an effort to switch us off a scum buddy, but I tried to call him on it. Heck he could have easily built a case up against me and started the bandwagon on me, using the same logic posted by Sweet. Then finally my salvation came. D2 popped back in with his unholy bent to justify his day one actions and villify everyone else. I just got the feeling that that's the player he is, whether town or mafia he is very much about his own importance in the game. Especially after seeing him revenge vote in the other game and how he can not still see why he was lynched day one. So I goaded him a bit and he he took the bait. Then Scruffy reappeared and joined, and I finally had some steam. Jazzman played true to form and got in early on an obvious safe vote against townie so as to not look to bandwagonish but still look participatory. Then came Ravishing's drive by. Now why would I do that? Because I have information I need to reveal and know I am at high risk even if I survive the townlynch, so I decided to go all in. Last night I put on my Wiress Glasses and took a look at Jazzman. It was a toss up between about three people I just chose him. Honestly because I thought he would be targeted today, just not so early, and I was actually hoping he would flip town, because then I could defend him and stay active. But with 2 kills likely coming our way tonight, I cannot risk another town lynch and hope to survive the night knowing that Jazzman flipped as guilty to me. I cannot die without at least revealing this information. Why should you believe me. Because I told you long before I built momentum against myself that I was BeeTee Volts. Remember how I mentioned no editing posts, read between the lines, the big picture. Read this, notice when it was posted Now with a bit of magic let me show you how I typed that originally... {Spoiler} Instead of beating around the bush, I think I need to be more proactive. As such, I guees I need to put somethings in motion. Maybe I can get some discussion going again and root out some theories.
Because we are coming off a slow time, I guess we need to restart somewhere. Everyone needs to get more involved, but they need more info to do so. Everyone needs more info but that only comes when everyone gets more involved. Therein lies a catch-22. Especially considering how wrong I have been, it makes it hard to decide what to do next. Even though I have been wrong I think I am right here soo...
Vote Jazzman Oblivion Sorceress makes some points worth looking into. Lets keep trying to figure that out. That said, I am quite confident this lynch will end better than last. So what say you all?
Just read the first letter in every line. Sorry, for using you like that D2, but the town winning is way more important than either me or you. This could still all backfire but if I am lynched I will come back as BeeTee as I say and you will KNOW I was right. I did things that way because I thought after reading the discription of how BeeTee was physically unassuming, but won his games with his mind it would be a fun little way to roleplay.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Dec 4, 2009 23:54:22 GMT -5
Well... holy crap.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Dec 4, 2009 23:56:25 GMT -5
EBWOP
Okay, just to be clear, ritt... you're saying that you know for certain Jazzman is Mafia? If so... I may just believe you. Jazzman's role-claim seems iffy, and I can't imagine someone revealing what you did unless they were legit.
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Post by D2: Sweet & Sour Edition on Dec 4, 2009 23:58:24 GMT -5
Well ritt, if that's the case
Vote: Jazzman
Whoever our protector is needs to take the bullet for you tonight.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Dec 5, 2009 0:09:24 GMT -5
I do not know if Jazz is mafia or third party. All I know is what was pmed to me. Jazzman is guilty. It never said of what. And as for our protector protecting me that might not be needed either I have another interesting theory.
Jag is a heavy suspect. The only thing keeping him safe is that he might be a jester. If he is a jester mafia and SK would not know and would need him gone too. Neither mafia or SK will know what the other will do and shouldn't trust that the other will handle it. If he survives the night we will likely kill him tomorrow or the next day. Then we have most likely another mafia or the sk or possibly even the jester then mafia and sk lose anyway.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Dec 5, 2009 0:12:46 GMT -5
Good enough for me. At this point, either you or Jazzman has to be Mafia or 3rd Party, and I find your story more believable, so...
Vote: Jazzman
Now to go through Jazzman's posts and see what can be gleamed from them, as well as make note of who voted for Jazzman previously.
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Post by OblivionSorceress on Dec 5, 2009 0:12:48 GMT -5
I truly apologize for being out of action for a few pages there. As I had mentioned before my health was a growing concern for me but it is getting better I am happy to say. Not a 100% but I'll get there. I also mentioned that I would give my thoughts on other players since at the time I only had the concentration to give my thoughts on Ravishing One. There are a lot of names being thrown about so this may be a long post, for that I'm sorry, I know how they can be a strain to read. Well there is recent discussion on Deadpool and his lurking. He did state he was having computer issues before and I just feel he was telling the truth. But since he's told us that, he hasn't made any other efforts to assist us in catching scum. Maybe his computer is having issues again or maybe he's busy or maybe he is having health issues like I was, who really knows. I honestly don't have much of an opinion of what Deadpool could be due to his lack of posting. Although I will admit I haven't gone back and looked through it all. I guess I should do that before I make any further statements as to my opinions on his character. Thereby having the whole picture and analyzing that as opposed to only analyzing a piece of it. I am not sure I understand the uproar on Ritt. From what I'm understanding from people's posts is that he had voted twice for townies? I'm not saying we should forget that in case he is mafia, but I think such a thing is common to happen for Day 1. It's the Day where nobody knows nothing for the most part basically. As some have said it's the shot in the dark day. Also it doesn't help that the odds are against us; there's a much larger number of townies (I think anyway, isn't that usually how it goes?) than there are mafia. It's very possible to trigger a townie two or three times. I hate to say it but I think it's true. Only if there's like no reason stated as to their votes then that might be something to look in to. I have to say I do have to look over how he voted (in particular his reasons) in order to form a more accurate portrayal of him. Jonathan Michaels seems to be a semi lurker. Posts once ever few pages and doesn't give us very much to go on. Except this post...this post really bothers me: To be perfectly honest, I suspect almost everyone right now. However, I will note that everyone jumped my case because I supposedly did a "Drive-By" on Jag, but as far as I can tell, just about everyone else suspects him too. I am not even remotely convinced of Jag's innocence. And I am in between on everyone else, except Al Bundy and Latino Meat, whom I think are town. Therefore. . . VOTE : JagilkiFirst of all, you basically just told us all that you voted for Jag because everyone else suspected him (seems that way to me anyway). Second, you think Al Bundy and Latino Meat are town but not Gunslinger? I don't understand how you can think one but not the other (Al Bundy and Gunslinger) is town. They role claimed together and even vouched for each other. I am not sure but I have to say I'm suspicious of Jonathan Michaels. I realize I said I had a lot of checking up on things to do but hopefully this was useful.
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Post by crudulak on Dec 5, 2009 0:18:58 GMT -5
The only possible hole I see is that the "I Am Beetee Volts" post came after the Night One results.
If ritt is lying, I urge the real Beetee Volts not to counter claim. We'll find out soon enough.
Unvote
Vote: Jazzman
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Post by OblivionSorceress on Dec 5, 2009 0:29:57 GMT -5
Okay I totally missed the Ritt role claim before I posted that last thing. Were things really getting that desperate that you had to role claim? Ugh...now we have even more power roles reveled to the mafia. The protector isn't going to be able to protect everybody. So we have a strong possibility that we're going to lose another power role. Cause aren't Al Bundy and Gunslinger power roles? Only it appears Gunslinger is protected by his role perhaps since he made this statement: Hm, well my partner having to go to bat for we was something I hoped really wouldn't be necessary, like Bundy said, if there's a protector role out there putting the protection on him would be fantastic. As for the voting right now, yeah D-2's joke vote and retraction is suspicious, and he is fitting the lurkerish profile I believe. I'll be keeping my vote on tfmcmg until something else happens. He's just played too lurkerish while not adding diddly squat when actually speaking. I could be wrong with my analysis but I just find it odd how he would say for the protector to protect Al Bundy and not himself. Could be just selfless perhaps. I really don't know what else to say. Oh well duh, the Jazzman thing. If Ritt is telling the truth then I guess I'd have to vote Jazzman. I have to say it would be unintelligent on his part to claim such a role if it really wasn't his cause then, for the obvious reason, as the real one would counter claim. It appears I have no choice but to: Vote: Jazzman
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Post by crudulak on Dec 5, 2009 0:33:10 GMT -5
ritt: I also wanted to ask if the results just came up as guilty, or if they told you if Jazzman is mafia or third-party?
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Dec 5, 2009 0:34:21 GMT -5
He already answered that: all he got was "guilty". He doesn't know if it's Mafia or 3rd Party.
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