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Post by The_Punisher on Jul 14, 2009 20:46:41 GMT -5
I just wish people would be objective, take off the mask, and say "Yes, I am ashamed of pro wrestling, embarrassed by it, and I want to watch something real, something that I won't have to defend".
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 14, 2009 21:21:53 GMT -5
I actually like wrestling way more than UFC etc BECAUSE it's a show, but again, it's easy to see that that's where the 'boom' fans went and what they're watching now by and large.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2009 23:36:56 GMT -5
I just wish people would be objective, take off the mask, and say "Yes, I am ashamed of pro wrestling, embarrassed by it, and I want to watch something real, something that I won't have to defend". This is sort of what I was trying to say but you worded it way better. People want wrestling to havea boom period so that they don't feel ashamed of their hobby. I for one am not ashamed. When people give me crap for liking wrestling more than UFC, I simply tell them that when UFC fighters start doing swanton bombs off the top of the cage I'll switch fandoms. UFC is okay and all, but most fighters are pretty much the same and most fights are pretty short. By the time I start getting into them, it's over. It's people punching each other. I just don't see it replacing wrestling. It's two different things.
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Post by chunkylover53 on Jul 15, 2009 0:16:13 GMT -5
Actually, if Benoit hadnt done what he did (as well as the injuries/suspensions) we may have seen a boom period in 2007. The Trump stuff got lots of media attention, as did k-fed, and the product, though not great, did show lots of promise. I doubt Benoit had ANYTHING to do with the state of the WWE. Sure, it didn't help the company in any way(far far FAR from it), but I never heard of a ratings decline since then(unless somebody can show me a chart). And relying on B-list celebrities is not an answer to improving a product. For WWE to experience another boom period, they have to do something new and fresh that would get many fans attention. What that is, I can't tell you. It all relies in the actual programing.
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Post by Hogasm on Jul 15, 2009 0:41:56 GMT -5
[warriorthug4cena] John Cena lead us into the boom period and is carrying us to the most bestest time for wwe i don't even care and is the best wrestler on earth better than hogan+rock+barry horrowitz and he is so hott omg i bought 10 of his cds cuz he is the greatest!!1!!1 *sigh* i wish he could see me... [/warriorthug4cena]
Simply said as it has been said before, boom periods require something new. NOTHING new has come in the past 10 years except for UFC, and thats a bad thing.
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Post by Dirty Hazy on Jul 15, 2009 1:36:19 GMT -5
It begins leading up to WM26 or starts shortly thereafter.
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Post by takahiro87 on Jul 15, 2009 9:15:18 GMT -5
It may not be as popular as it once was in the usa but it has worldwide It would be interesting how many countries was added to the wwe list of broadcast and live tours since the attitude era ended.
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Post by Mecca on Jul 15, 2009 9:25:54 GMT -5
To anyone that has watched alot of wrestling MMA is boring, wrestling is guys doing crazy worked moves that look awesome...a lot of MMA matches look like 2 guys trying to dry hump each other for 20 minutes.
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Post by Pagan Warrior on Jul 15, 2009 9:50:22 GMT -5
It's coming. But not from WWE. Everytime a boom came it was someone with a new idea from outside of mainstream wrestling. (Vince in the early 80s, ECW in the mid ninties) who slowly brought his new format and style into the big leagues and made it cause a boom period.
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Post by willywonka666 on Jul 15, 2009 9:59:29 GMT -5
It's the economy IMO without getting political. When the economy is up and if it ever gets up again watch and see, the music will get happier and wrestling will get interesting.
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Post by AriadosMan on Jul 15, 2009 10:51:33 GMT -5
It's the economy IMO without getting political. When the economy is up and if it ever gets up again watch and see, the music will get happier and wrestling will get interesting. Its NOT the economy, if it was why would UFC be having a boom period? Face it, we're not the center of attention we were in the late 90s and won't be until some new thing (Rock n' Wrestling, NWO, Attitude, etc.) comes along
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Post by VeggieOverlord on Jul 15, 2009 11:05:40 GMT -5
This decade's boom period was brought to us by the UFC. They created buzz and interest for their product and brought in new fans. Sound familiar? That was everything WWE was used to be able to do. If they ever want to see 1998 money again they need to take cues from the UFC on how to present their product and create interest.
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Post by Kae on Jul 15, 2009 11:06:50 GMT -5
I agree that UFC is having the boom period that wrestling had in previous decades. I think that many people who would have been watching wrestling are now watching UFC, because it offers a more "real," gritty and therefore less socially stigmatized version of two guys fighting. My fiance will tease me a lot about being a wrestling fan, but he'll go out with me to watch UFC and get behind the fighters as much as I do.
I'll be honest. I'm a grad student, and I am a little embarrassed about liking wrestling as a result. I know that, if I told most of my friends, they'd find it very weird and wonder why I liked such "low-brow" entertainment. I feel somewhat the same way about liking UFC, but to a lesser degree. But that's the particular pretentious, hothouse environment of grad school, where, if you like anything in popular culture, you're somehow a lesser human being.
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Jul 15, 2009 11:14:09 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree with the UFC hypothesis. Wrestling, at it's roots, was about a good fight. The worked elements, were about making the audiance emotionally involved in the fight. Now, the WWE can show a good fight, they just can't make people care.
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Post by The Verdict on Jul 15, 2009 11:30:07 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree with the UFC hypothesis. Wrestling, at it's roots, was about a good fight. The worked elements, were about making the audiance emotionally involved in the fight. Now, the WWE can show a good fight, they just can't make people care. Thats exactly it for me. Nobody in the "wwe universe" seems to give much of a s*** about anything that occurs, whereas in the UFC or even in MMA in general the crowd is just way hot for everything, they remind me of the ECW crowd. Then theres not the issue of a bad storyline or the writers pushing the wrong guys. Its real and it's great fun.
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Post by kidmuscle on Jul 15, 2009 12:07:59 GMT -5
Just the fact that they are around and still thriving with DVD sales and their international tours, along with selling tickets domestically that's pretty much all we can ask for.
WWE is nowhere near the red.
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Post by Fantozzi on Jul 15, 2009 19:22:09 GMT -5
they had many boom periods in new markets (europe, asia)
in the US the only time that resembled a mini-boom was the first half of 2006, but injuries and benoit pulled the plug
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Post by willywonka666 on Jul 16, 2009 12:49:37 GMT -5
It's the economy IMO without getting political. When the economy is up and if it ever gets up again watch and see, the music will get happier and wrestling will get interesting. Its NOT the economy, if it was why would UFC be having a boom period? Face it, we're not the center of attention we were in the late 90s and won't be until some new thing (Rock n' Wrestling, NWO, Attitude, etc.) comes along Wrestling is more entertainment, UFC is a sport, there's not a lot of flash and glitz, to me, that's why I think wrestling is kinda in there with music and television
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Post by Real Folk Bruce on Jul 16, 2009 13:12:04 GMT -5
In my opinion, their will never be another wrestling boom period, simply because their is nothing left for wrestling to offer. Every story has been done, every character has been done, their are no stars on the level of Austin or The Rock, and the current rise of UFC and other MMA groups effectively squashes any chance of wrestling becoming popular.
This will probably get me crucified on here but I'll say it anyway. You guys should enjoy wrestling while it's still around, because in 20-30 years I don't think wrestling will exist.
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Post by willywonka666 on Jul 16, 2009 15:29:25 GMT -5
Maybe, at some point, Vince should clear everything out and restart everything. Keep the same wrestlers, but completely revamp the characters and storylines, kinda something like Marvel did. I know it won't happen, but it would be intriguing to change the Orton character for instance and just start fresh with everyone from the ground up.
They've been doing it over the years with a few people here and there giving them new gimmicks, what if the entire federation got that treatment? just forget the past, forget what you thought you knew..
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