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Post by dabossftw on Jul 22, 2009 5:28:59 GMT -5
Yep Kelly did that pathetic move in the ZZ Top Legs match tonight. This time she did tt facing downward in stea dof up.It acua;;y looked better that way but still is a lame move as her oppenet is teh one taht pretty much has to control the whole move and bump. even sadder that Gail Kim after her tremendous run and push in TNA,is demoted to carryingthese broads and putting them over like she did tonight. Someone has spilled a drink on their keyboard, is plastered, or didn't look at anything they typed. Imagine that, a crappy-looking move in a Women's/Diva's match!
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 22, 2009 5:48:42 GMT -5
Kind of reminds me of that wrestler that used to do that STUPID move. He'd weakly slam his opponents and then take forever looking at the crowd, throw his elbow pads into the crowd and then drop a weak elbow after raising his eyebrow. I don't know why they didn't release him. Obviously stupid move had no place in wrestling. Cracked me up. I don't mind Kelly Kelly. Short of probably Eve, Maria, and Beth Fan I cannot be bothered to remember the name of, Kelly is probably the least sound of the women wrestlers, but she's done alright. I mean, she's not on Kat/Terri levels of crap, and she is somewhat over. She's still really young and can be a long term investment potentially. If they were going to fire her, they should of done it a year or two ago. Now, they've already spent time building her up and training her, pissing it away now wouldn't serve any viable function.
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Post by mrjl on Jul 22, 2009 6:45:53 GMT -5
Okay yeah almost all of them suck as far as their lack of in ring ability. But there's this one diva that does the stupidest in ring move I've ever seen in my entire 34 years of watching wrestling! She does this weak flying head scissors move and yells while her opponent spins her around to pathetically create the illusion that this girl is defying gravity by spinning around in mid air,then she (the opponent) will flip herself over trying to make it look like this chick's flying head scissors move took her down. Anyone here know who I'm talking about? I want to know this chick's name so I can make an example out of how much she sucks and how unrealistic and unimpressive that move is! Fortunately I haven't seen her in a while and maybe she's been released! I hope so because that move is beyond lame! Every time she does that head scissors,it looks like she's lost control and her opponent who is the one doing the spinning around while holding this chick whose legs are wrapped around the opponent's head holds still and just yells,it looks like this chick is about to be launched off the opponent's head and crash land on her back which would be okay and believable. But instead, we are supposed to believe this chick can triple spin around in mid air with her legs wrapped around her opponent's head and flip her over?? It's like watching a cartoon! every damn headscissors these days by any wrestler involves the victim flipping themselves. There's no rolling through it.
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Post by mrjl on Jul 22, 2009 6:47:00 GMT -5
What's with all the Kelly hate all of a sudden? Is she sleeping with The Undertaker now? Watch her "Wrestle" and then you wont need to ask that! She was fine when she was doing her "Extreme Expose" on ECW. That's all most of the Divas are good for:STRIPPING! Otherwise, if they can't perform at the level of a Mickie James,Gail Kim or Natalya Neidhart,then keep the out of the ring PLEASE!!! I enjoy her wrestling.
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Post by mrjl on Jul 22, 2009 6:50:17 GMT -5
a couple other people mentioned Scotty 2 Hotties "worm" and "Cena's 5 Knuckle shuffle" agin those moves got pops and(even though Scotty's took way too long) it's still more realistic than to believe yon wrap your legs around someone head and as they stand up you some how with all your strength ,can fly around spinning and flip the person over it is the fakest and stupidest looking move I've ever seen! luchadors do it all the damn time.
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Post by Bobby Womack on Jul 22, 2009 7:55:47 GMT -5
i have no idea why this board has suddenly turned on her, shes sucked all along as do 95% of female wrestlers
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Post by r. on Jul 22, 2009 8:48:03 GMT -5
incase you have not seen it, added note i picked out a decent looking one.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 22, 2009 9:03:07 GMT -5
By the way, does the thread title make anyone else think "how much does that fellar weigh?"
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Post by noleafclover1980 on Jul 22, 2009 13:58:36 GMT -5
Meh, she's cute, the crowds seem to like her, and she looks like she's having fun out there. Considering Divas wrestling will never *Chris Jericho voice* EVEEER!.... be taken seriously, I really don't see how she's doing any more damage then all the other chicks that can't wrestle.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2009 14:52:57 GMT -5
Kind of reminds me of that wrestler that used to do that STUPID move. He'd weakly slam his opponents and then take forever looking at the crowd, throw his elbow pads into the crowd and then drop a weak elbow after raising his eyebrow. I don't know why they didn't release him. Obviously stupid move had no place in wrestling. Cracked me up. I don't mind Kelly Kelly. Short of probably Eve, Maria, and Beth Fan I cannot be bothered to remember the name of, Kelly is probably the least sound of the women wrestlers, but she's done alright. I mean, she's not on Kat/Terri levels of crap, and she is somewhat over. She's still really young and can be a long term investment potentially. If they were going to fire her, they should of done it a year or two ago. Now, they've already spent time building her up and training her, pissing it away now wouldn't serve any viable function. Eve's actually damn good look at her SD Stuff She's got a Rolling Thunder Standing Moonsault that looks better than anything I've seen out of Katie Lea or Natalya
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Post by dannyrctv on Jul 23, 2009 3:48:52 GMT -5
Kind of reminds me of that wrestler that used to do that STUPID move. He'd weakly slam his opponents and then take forever looking at the crowd, throw his elbow pads into the crowd and then drop a weak elbow after raising his eyebrow. I don't know why they didn't release him. Obviously stupid move had no place in wrestling. Cracked me up. I don't mind Kelly Kelly. Short of probably Eve, Maria, and Beth Fan I cannot be bothered to remember the name of, Kelly is probably the least sound of the women wrestlers, but she's done alright. I mean, she's not on Kat/Terri levels of crap, and she is somewhat over. She's still really young and can be a long term investment potentially. If they were going to fire her, they should of done it a year or two ago. Now, they've already spent time building her up and training her, pissing it away now wouldn't serve any viable function. I talked about this in the other Kelly thread about whether or not WWE should release her and a lot of people are giving that "she's young and has room to grow" excuse. She's been there since she was 19 and after this long in the big leagues if she's only shown a little improvement, that's not enough! She's only over because of her looks. Like I said in the other thread, over at Big Time Wrestling(BTW) who I produce DVDs for, we have a 19 year old rookie spark plug named Davina Rose. She's only wrestled about 9 or 10 matches(including against the likes of TNA's Raisha Saeed and O.D.B.) and she is leaps and bounds beyond the more "experienced" Kelly Kelly who I'm sure has "worked" many more matches on the road the last 3 years. That also goes for a majority of the other divas. Davina spent a whole year training at the school before her first pro match and even though she only gets to work every 2 months she spends a lot of time practicing and honing her craft so the excuse of Kelly's youth is a petty one. Here's Davina wrestling a masked jobber in her 6th match ever. It's not perfect, maybe she's not yet a high flyer or can do gymnastics but she's still better than most of the divas. Tell me what you think:
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Post by Throwback on Jul 23, 2009 6:24:41 GMT -5
IMO. Kelly Kelly may not be Bret Hart but she looks like she's been at least trying to improve. Anyone remember how bad Trish was when se first got in the ring
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Post by mrjl on Jul 23, 2009 6:32:50 GMT -5
Cracked me up. I don't mind Kelly Kelly. Short of probably Eve, Maria, and Beth Fan I cannot be bothered to remember the name of, Kelly is probably the least sound of the women wrestlers, but she's done alright. I mean, she's not on Kat/Terri levels of crap, and she is somewhat over. She's still really young and can be a long term investment potentially. If they were going to fire her, they should of done it a year or two ago. Now, they've already spent time building her up and training her, pissing it away now wouldn't serve any viable function. I talked about this in the other Kelly thread about whether or not WWE should release her and a lot of people are giving that "she's young and has room to grow" excuse. She's been there since she was 19 and after this long in the big leagues if she's only shown a little improvement, that's not enough! She's only over because of her looks. Like I said in the other thread, over at Big Time Wrestling(BTW) who I produce DVDs for, we have a 19 year old rookie spark plug named Davina Rose. She's only wrestled about 9 or 10 matches(including against the likes of TNA's Raisha Saeed and O.D.B.) and she is leaps and bounds beyond the more "experienced" Kelly Kelly who I'm sure has "worked" many more matches on the road the last 3 years. That also goes for a majority of the other divas. Davina spent a whole year training at the school before her first pro match and even though she only gets to work every 2 months she spends a lot of time practicing and honing her craft so the excuse of Kelly's youth is a petty one. Here's Davina wrestling a masked jobber in her 6th match ever. It's not perfect, maybe she's not yet a high flyer or can do gymnastics but she's still better than most of the divas. Tell me what you think: I think it doesn't matter, because that's not the way the WWE works.
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Post by RedSmile on Jul 23, 2009 9:04:47 GMT -5
"She's trying to improve"
"She has room for improvement"
"She is having fun"
I am baffled, simply baffled, as to how standards have dropped so low. Has it really come to that point? People do not care if she is a good wrestler, just as long as she is trying not to be a bad wrestler? I dare think that WWE has jumped the shark, if thats true.
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Post by Lionheart on Jul 23, 2009 9:06:11 GMT -5
"She's trying to improve" "She has room for improvement" "She is having fun" I am baffled, simply baffled, as to how standards have dropped so low. Has it really come to that point? With mainstream women's wrestling? Yes. I'm not sure it was ever far from that point, actually.
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Post by RedSmile on Jul 23, 2009 9:13:30 GMT -5
"She's trying to improve" "She has room for improvement" "She is having fun" I am baffled, simply baffled, as to how standards have dropped so low. Has it really come to that point? With mainstream women's wrestling? Yes. I'm not sure it was ever far from that point, actually. Especially since it could be way way more than that. I blame Trish Stratus. Trish Stratus was catching lightning in a bottle. And now we've got WWE trying to turn every untrained fitness model they can get their sweaty hands on, into the next Trish Stratus. Thereby, hoping to get by on "improvement" and "effort" as the excuses for being below average. That is a bad philosophy.
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Post by londonfan on Jul 23, 2009 9:28:46 GMT -5
Cracked me up. I don't mind Kelly Kelly. Short of probably Eve, Maria, and Beth Fan I cannot be bothered to remember the name of, Kelly is probably the least sound of the women wrestlers, but she's done alright. I mean, she's not on Kat/Terri levels of crap, and she is somewhat over. She's still really young and can be a long term investment potentially. If they were going to fire her, they should of done it a year or two ago. Now, they've already spent time building her up and training her, pissing it away now wouldn't serve any viable function. I talked about this in the other Kelly thread about whether or not WWE should release her and a lot of people are giving that "she's young and has room to grow" excuse. She's been there since she was 19 and after this long in the big leagues if she's only shown a little improvement, that's not enough! She's only over because of her looks. Like I said in the other thread, over at Big Time Wrestling(BTW) who I produce DVDs for, we have a 19 year old rookie spark plug named Davina Rose. She's only wrestled about 9 or 10 matches(including against the likes of TNA's Raisha Saeed and O.D.B.) and she is leaps and bounds beyond the more "experienced" Kelly Kelly who I'm sure has "worked" many more matches on the road the last 3 years. That also goes for a majority of the other divas. Davina spent a whole year training at the school before her first pro match and even though she only gets to work every 2 months she spends a lot of time practicing and honing her craft so the excuse of Kelly's youth is a petty one. Here's Davina wrestling a masked jobber in her 6th match ever. It's not perfect, maybe she's not yet a high flyer or can do gymnastics but she's still better than most of the divas. Tell me what you think: But that chick is ugly. That's why they wrestle in gyms, and always will. Again, the reality of what most people want out of female wrestlers in the US is way over your head.
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Post by SickFlipPiledriver on Jul 23, 2009 12:00:13 GMT -5
Thing is, her popularity overrides any lack of "skill" at a worked sport.
People always say "well if a male wrestler sucked that bad they'd fire him, etc." That's because the men and women are held to different standards, for good reason. (Most) men in that 18-35 age group that they so covet (don't let PG ratings fool you), don't watch men wrestling to see scantily clad men, they watch it to see the wrestling itself which means that their matches need to be clean, crisp, and believeable. So overness can only get a male wrestler so far in WWE; at the end of the day, you have to be able to tell a story in the ring. To wit, all of WWE's top faces have been experts at doing just that.
Women's wrestling is part of WWE for two main reasons: one, because men like to watch ill-clothed women roll around on each other, and two, because the crowd occasionally needs to time to deflate.
Or to put it more bluntly, it's a beer break. You may not agree with their methods or like them, but they are their methods.
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Post by dannyrctv on Jul 23, 2009 12:05:42 GMT -5
I talked about this in the other Kelly thread about whether or not WWE should release her and a lot of people are giving that "she's young and has room to grow" excuse. She's been there since she was 19 and after this long in the big leagues if she's only shown a little improvement, that's not enough! She's only over because of her looks. Like I said in the other thread, over at Big Time Wrestling(BTW) who I produce DVDs for, we have a 19 year old rookie spark plug named Davina Rose. She's only wrestled about 9 or 10 matches(including against the likes of TNA's Raisha Saeed and O.D.B.) and she is leaps and bounds beyond the more "experienced" Kelly Kelly who I'm sure has "worked" many more matches on the road the last 3 years. That also goes for a majority of the other divas. Davina spent a whole year training at the school before her first pro match and even though she only gets to work every 2 months she spends a lot of time practicing and honing her craft so the excuse of Kelly's youth is a petty one. Here's Davina wrestling a masked jobber in her 6th match ever. It's not perfect, maybe she's not yet a high flyer or can do gymnastics but she's still better than most of the divas. Tell me what you think: But that chick is ugly. That's why they wrestle in gyms, and always will. Again, the reality of what most people want out of female wrestlers in the US is way over your head. What do you mean by way over my head? She's not ugly,she just doesn't have fake boobs and look like a super model! There's nothing wrong with being smoking hot but its an insult to the art form of wrestling to throw these chick in the ring an dplay it off like they have so much talent. Check out "Chick Fight" or the TNA Knockouts now there's some hotties that can WRESTLE!
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Post by SickFlipPiledriver on Jul 23, 2009 12:14:16 GMT -5
TNA was like right on the cusp of making Christy Hemme the Knockouts Champ, so yeah.
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