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Post by thwak is T.hawk on Oct 3, 2009 16:15:17 GMT -5
Ok fine I can accept that you don't like turn based combat.
And fine I can also accept that you don't like the anime art style.
But what I can't accept is you saying that all JRPGs have the story and characters especially compared to western RPGs.
I mean think about it, how many western RPGs are set in tolkeinisa where you're the stalwart hero of the land who comes to save the kingdom from demons who've run amuck. The only western RPG I can think of that isn't like that is fallout, practically everything else is elves and gnomes fighting imps and dragons.
Where as with JRPGs you have a multitude of divorce settings. Sure there are a bunch of games set in bad sci-fi anime land, but there's a wealth of games set in pure fantasy worlds, the real world, and hell even the magical kingdom of disney!
I just don't get how people can say all JRPGs are the same thing. You can't tell me that shadow hearts is the exact same as dragon quest.
I don't know, this is just an argument that baffles me.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 3, 2009 16:17:05 GMT -5
That's the problem when people generalize. They don't get how much it really sinks their argument when put under scrutiny.
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Post by B.B.M on Oct 3, 2009 16:22:54 GMT -5
Most JRPGS have one motto
"Lets be like Final Fantasy"
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Post by Cyno on Oct 3, 2009 16:31:06 GMT -5
I mean think about it, how many western RPGs are set in tolkeinisa where you're the stalwart hero of the land who comes to save the kingdom from demons who've run amuck. The only western RPG I can think of that isn't like that is fallout, practically everything else is elves and gnomes fighting imps and dragons. It's funny how you can criticize generalization of JRPG's when you do it for WRPG's. Also, besides Fallout, there's Mass Effect, both Star Wars: KOTOR's, Deus Ex (which is also FPS, but there's definitely RPG elements), Septerra Core, Alpha Protocol, Jade Empire, Planescape: Torment and many others that differ from your typical Tolkien-esque fantasy setting.
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Post by J is Justice on Oct 3, 2009 16:32:33 GMT -5
Most JRPGS have one motto "Lets be like Final Fantasy" What a great motto
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Post by B.B.M on Oct 3, 2009 16:33:36 GMT -5
Most JRPGS have one motto "Lets be like Final Fantasy" What a great motto Sadly, they don't follow it.
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Post by erisi236 on Oct 3, 2009 16:36:29 GMT -5
I'll always favor a Western RPG over a J one just for the fact that there's a million ways to go about playing the game, I like my RPGs nonlinear.
Also, Mass Effect say hi.
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Post by Michael Coello on Oct 3, 2009 16:41:52 GMT -5
Also, you can add Ultimate Alliance 1 and 2 to the list.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Oct 3, 2009 17:10:47 GMT -5
I don't see why JRPG fans have to hate WRPGs, and vice versa.
I mean, I'm primarily into JRPGs, they're my favourite genre...but I can get into WRPGs too. It just seems silly.
They're both diverse genres with a lot to offer. But getting along is way too much to ask, right? We have to hate everything.
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Post by B.B.M on Oct 3, 2009 17:13:22 GMT -5
I don't see why JRPG fans have to hate WRPGs, and vice versa. I hate both forms of RPGs, so i'm not bothered by that. I've only have three RPGs for consoles, and that's Chrono Trigger, Fallout 3 and Mass Effect
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Oct 3, 2009 17:13:26 GMT -5
I don't see why JRPG fans have to hate WRPGs, and vice versa. I mean, I'm primarily into JRPGs, they're my favourite genre...but I can get into WRPGs too. It just seems silly. They're both diverse genres with a lot to offer. But getting along is way too much to ask, right? We have to hate everything. No, we just all have different tastes. I don't get why it's such an alien thing for people to dislike different things. We're all different and we all like different things...and frankly, that's a good thing or else these boards and the real world would be REALLY boring...
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Post by B.B.M on Oct 3, 2009 17:15:32 GMT -5
Remember when WRPGS and JRPGS, used to be called RPGS?
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Oct 3, 2009 17:16:17 GMT -5
I don't see why JRPG fans have to hate WRPGs, and vice versa. I mean, I'm primarily into JRPGs, they're my favourite genre...but I can get into WRPGs too. It just seems silly. They're both diverse genres with a lot to offer. But getting along is way too much to ask, right? We have to hate everything. No, we just all have different tastes. I don't get why it's such an alien thing for people to dislike different things. We're all different and we all like different things...and frankly, that's a good thing or else these boards and the real world would be REALLY boring... I think Dude's just talking about video game fans who like to draw lines in the sand. I prefer JRPGs, but I'm open to western alternatives.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Oct 3, 2009 17:16:25 GMT -5
I don't see why JRPG fans have to hate WRPGs, and vice versa. I mean, I'm primarily into JRPGs, they're my favourite genre...but I can get into WRPGs too. It just seems silly. They're both diverse genres with a lot to offer. But getting along is way too much to ask, right? We have to hate everything. No, we just all have different tastes. I don't get why it's such an alien thing for people to dislike different things. We're all different and we all like different things...and frankly, that's a good thing or else these boards and the real world would be REALLY boring... It's not that. I can understand disliking something, it's when people outright hate a genre and insult any fans of said genre is more what I'm talking about. When people start stereotyping every single game in a given genre, etc. Yes, it's definitely a good thing that we all have different tastes, and I have nothing against people who like something I dislike or vice versa. It's just when people get like really stupid mad and defensive about it...I think that's silly.
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Post by Grendel on Oct 3, 2009 17:17:04 GMT -5
Remember when WRPGS and JRPGS, used to be called RPGS? Yes, and didnt MMORPGS used to be called RPGS, or am I wrong?
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Post by B.B.M on Oct 3, 2009 17:17:37 GMT -5
Remember when WRPGS and JRPGS, used to be called RPGS? Yes, and didnt MMORPGS used to be called RPGS, or am I wrong? Yes, I think they were.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Oct 3, 2009 17:18:01 GMT -5
Remember when WRPGS and JRPGS, used to be called RPGS? I do indeed. I prefer how it is now.
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Post by strykerdarksilence on Oct 3, 2009 17:20:22 GMT -5
I don't see why JRPG fans have to hate WRPGs, and vice versa. I mean, I'm primarily into JRPGs, they're my favourite genre...but I can get into WRPGs too. It just seems silly. They're both diverse genres with a lot to offer. But getting along is way too much to ask, right? We have to hate everything. YOU'RE WRONG! I HATE YOU! AND YOUR OPINION!! ...you may be onto something...
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Oct 3, 2009 17:21:35 GMT -5
I don't see why JRPG fans have to hate WRPGs, and vice versa. I mean, I'm primarily into JRPGs, they're my favourite genre...but I can get into WRPGs too. It just seems silly. They're both diverse genres with a lot to offer. But getting along is way too much to ask, right? We have to hate everything. YOU'RE WRONG! I HATE YOU! AND YOUR OPINION!! ...you may be onto something... YOUR FACE IS STUPID AND YOU ARE A CRIPPLE YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO CRITICIZE ME But yeah, seriously...the anger, I don't get it.
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Post by B.B.M on Oct 3, 2009 17:23:08 GMT -5
Speaking of which, why hasn't nobody made a RPG based on Snoopy?
I WANT MY PEANUTS RPG!!!!
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