Hiroshi Hase
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Aug 26, 2009 12:05:42 GMT -5
Are people seriously suggesting the horrifically bland Ted DiBiase, Jr. should end Taker's streak or is this just some ragging gag I'm unaware of? That would be atrocious. The guy is bland and vanilla as hell, he'd have to rise to near Austin levels in the next 6-8 months for that to even be a possibility. Still, I'd love to see the forums if someone like Cena would end the streak, that would be golden.
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Post by Bong Buster Bundy on Aug 26, 2009 12:11:18 GMT -5
If Edge can't make it back in time, Chris Jericho!
If he can, John Morrison in the match of his life?
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Post by londonfan on Aug 26, 2009 12:42:42 GMT -5
Cena.
Cena is the biggest and best match up left for UT. A Jericho match would be good work rate wise - but ungodly boring at the same time as the ending of the match would never be in doubt.
HBK vs. UT = BIG TIME overrated.
But vs Cena...the outcome would be a big mystery. Cena is the one guy who I think could break the streak. Jericho, not so much.
Pushed properly I think Swagger would make a great opponent for UT at Mania too. But he would need a strong 6 month undefeated streak going into Mania to make it work.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 12:50:57 GMT -5
Cena.
What makes Taker mania matches good? A story where it is believable they could lose. Batista/Taker: Made more entertaining because you could see Batista going over. HBK/Taker? Made more entertaining by HBK kicking out of the tombstone and adding uncertainty.
Highly doubtful Cena/Taker would result in ending Taker's streak. Even so though, there'd be doubt in the air and it'd make the match good. Punk/Taker, Jericho/Taker, there's 0% uncertainty.
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Post by Big L on Aug 26, 2009 12:54:23 GMT -5
jack swagger
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Post by thesunbeast on Aug 26, 2009 15:07:38 GMT -5
Just for the fact alone that people are commenting that they hope that Cena doesn't end the streak is proof that it should be Cena that faces Undertaker. Undertaker's opponents have to be people that provide a real threat to his undefeated streak. Most casual fans don't want to see what they think will be a "pretty good match" while knowing who will win, it's not knowing who will win that is half the battle of making a great match. that's why I don't follow comments like "I don't want Cena to end the streak, that's why I think It should be Jericho or somebody". Undertakers opponents have to be threatening to his streak.
If Jericho locks in the walls of Jericho on Undertaker, does everyone really think Undertaker is going to tap? If Cena locks in the stf, does anyone think that Undertaker is going to tap? See my point?
the opponents I can think of that would be threatening to Undertaker's streak are:
HBK again HHH again John Cena Randy Orton again Kane again (6 year space storyline) (666?)
I think Cena should have been the man to actually end the streak until Orton ended Cena's streak at WM24, now, that kind of a victory would be watered down. Also, I don't think the streak should end untill WWE has a product where they have all kinds of huge featured happenings with meaning. Rigtnow, Undertaker's undefeated streak is a huge feature event, and there aren't many others going around right now at that level. If you had a WWE product right now where you had two undefeated men overall for 3 years, several huge stars that have yet to face each other, AND Undertaker was undefeated at Wrestlemania, THEN it would be ok to end the streak to further develop a new star (not MAKE a new star, they already have to be one). Don't end the streak when there's nothing else going on.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Aug 26, 2009 15:23:45 GMT -5
Surprise opponent: - Macho Man Randy Savage!
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Post by Young Game on Aug 26, 2009 17:11:18 GMT -5
Kenta Kobashi? (always been one of my personal dream matches)
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Post by dh03grad on Aug 26, 2009 18:16:35 GMT -5
It would have to take Vince and Pat Patterson to book like they did 20 years ago to build a 6 month Punk-Taker feud and keep things interesting culminating at WM26. Highly unlikely. It would be best, but wont happen. Cena cant face Orton, Cena-HHH 3 doesnt appeal to me. Neither would Cena-Batista again. Cena has beaten Edge,Show and Jericho over and over again. Cena-Undertaker is what makes sense.
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Post by dh03grad on Aug 26, 2009 18:18:15 GMT -5
Are people seriously suggesting the horrifically bland Ted DiBiase, Jr. should end Taker's streak or is this just some ragging gag I'm unaware of? That would be atrocious. The guy is bland and vanilla as hell, he'd have to rise to near Austin levels in the next 6-8 months for that to even be a possibility. Still, I'd love to see the forums if someone like Cena would end the streak, that would be golden. Everyone is bland without mic time and a defined character. Cena was bland in mid 2002. Undertaker was bland as Mean Mark. MVP was bland as Antonio Banks in TNA. Ted Jr needs to turn on Orton and effort to be put into his character over the next year and a half, then he can definitely face Taker at WM 27.
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Post by Ragnal on Aug 26, 2009 18:34:22 GMT -5
Yanno, I'd have to agree with the people that say Cena. As much as it would kill me to admit it, a Cena/Taker feud at Wrestlemania would give people the fear that yes, someone may actually end up ending Undertaker's streak. It would get people interested, leave people in suspense, and others saying, "Nah, they wouldn't DREAM of ending the streak...would they?"
That being said, WWE's best to just leave Undertaker's streak undefeated, whenever he retires. It wouldn't seem fair in the future when WWE video packs say "The Undertaker had been undefeated at Wrestlemania for several years...but then came John Cena, who would end the streak!"
It's not really as powerful now, is it?
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Post by dh03grad on Aug 26, 2009 18:40:19 GMT -5
Yanno, I'd have to agree with the people that say Cena. As much as it would kill me to admit it, a Cena/Taker feud at Wrestlemania would give people the fear that yes, someone may actually end up ending Undertaker's streak. It would get people interested, leave people in suspense, and others saying, "Nah, they wouldn't DREAM of ending the streak...would they?" That being said, WWE's best to just leave Undertaker's streak undefeated, whenever he retires. It wouldn't seem fair in the future when WWE video packs say "The Undertaker had been undefeated at Wrestlemania for several years...but then came John Cena, who would end the streak!" It's not really as powerful now, is it? "Hulk Hogan has been the WWF Champion for 3 years will face Andre The Giant who has been undefeated for 15 years at Wrestlemania 3!!!"
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Post by Ragnal on Aug 26, 2009 18:44:16 GMT -5
Yanno, I'd have to agree with the people that say Cena. As much as it would kill me to admit it, a Cena/Taker feud at Wrestlemania would give people the fear that yes, someone may actually end up ending Undertaker's streak. It would get people interested, leave people in suspense, and others saying, "Nah, they wouldn't DREAM of ending the streak...would they?" That being said, WWE's best to just leave Undertaker's streak undefeated, whenever he retires. It wouldn't seem fair in the future when WWE video packs say "The Undertaker had been undefeated at Wrestlemania for several years...but then came John Cena, who would end the streak!" It's not really as powerful now, is it? "Hulk Hogan has been the WWF Champion for 3 years will face Andre The Giant who has been undefeated for 15 years at Wrestlemania 3!!!" ...touche... Though really, it doesn't seem like too many people remember that. They remember Hogan bodyslamming Andre. Cena would have to do like, I dunno, a Tombstone or FU off the top rope to get the sort of reaction Hogan did.
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Post by Mac on Aug 26, 2009 18:47:52 GMT -5
Rey Mysterio.. I dunno why, I think it would be good.
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Post by BorneAgain on Aug 26, 2009 18:48:42 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind Cena against Taker if just to get him out of the title match. Him and HHH have been in world championship match every year beginning with WM 21 (excepting for Triple H's injury in 2007, as he would have faced Cena again if he wasn't injured).
Just of them being out of it would be a nice change a pace.
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Post by celticjobber on Aug 26, 2009 18:52:34 GMT -5
Cena has already been to the top and is on the decline, whoever finally ends Taker's streak should be someone who needs the rub and is being built as "the next big superstar". For that reason, almost anyone would be a better choice than John Cena.
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Post by dh03grad on Aug 26, 2009 18:57:27 GMT -5
Cena has already been to the top and is on the decline, whoever finally ends Taker's streak should be someone who needs the rub and is being built as "the next big superstar". For that reason, almost anyone would be a better choice than John Cena. Cena only seems to be on the decline because hes had to sHHHare top billing the last 2 years. I agree it would be best to do a smartly built up 6 month feud with Punk culminating at Mania, but feuds dont culminate there anymore. It would be great to build up Ted Jr for the next year and a half to face Taker at WM27. But, Cena is the biggest star right now still. What we dont need is for Taker to have another matchup with a foregone conclusion at Mania. Like facing Jericho.
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Post by hbk4ever09 on Aug 26, 2009 19:03:19 GMT -5
Punk will realistically be at "that point" when WM comes, (ready to be HUGE) but even then i just don't feel it/see it. HBK rematch would have some people doubting he'd lost twice (ehh). Cena with an STF on Undertaker in the middle of the ring would be giving people heart attacks. Honestly, i can't think of anyone better/new, and i trust WWE not to let Cena win, and it keeps cena outta the ME so let's do it. Now ...just to keep HHH out of the ME.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 19:32:48 GMT -5
I am thinking Cena vs. Undertaker, being that Cena is billed is the top babyface in the company. Plus I don't think they have met in a babyface vs. babyface match before. They faced on Raw shortly before WrestleMania 23 - Undertaker pretty much savagely beat him, though it ended in a double-DQ I think upon a run-in or something like that. Still, I think having Cena step up and lose is the logical step for this year. The only people on the roster who haven't fallen to the streak and yet would be credible threats to it are Jericho, who's pretty much going to face Edge, and Punk, who I'm thinking will either face off with Morrison or be in Money in the Bank. Plus, it gels nicely with the fact that I think Raw's main event at Mania will be Trips challenging for the WWE title, held by Shawn Michaels.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Aug 26, 2009 20:07:39 GMT -5
People keep saying Cena in the match means the outcome is the most unpredictable but it's still a lose/lose situation. The crowd is going to boo Cena out of the building against Taker. They were already booing him against Orton at SS. If they're not turning Cena heel, do they want that? Besides, the outcome still seems predictable because everyone here still doesn't think they'd let him end the streak and if he did, then it would make the crowd hate Cena even more. They could use that if they plan on turning Cena heel like they did with Austin vs Rock.
I still think my DX vs Taker/Kane is the best way to do it. That's the most unpredictable outcome to me. I could see DX winning. Or I could see it as a great moment for Kane. Picure this: Kane is near the ropes and gets superkicked to the outside. Ref bump shortly after, two on one beat down of Taker. Superkick to Taker, HHH is putting him in the pedrigee but Kane comes flying of the top rope and clotheslines HHH, saving the match. Tandem chokeslam & Tombstone to win.
That's just one scenario. This match could be epic.
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