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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Aug 26, 2009 4:15:56 GMT -5
The One To Break It * Note: I'm not saying the streak should be broken, I just saying if they decide to break it, Punk should be the guy.AND THE 6 REASONS WHY:1. Has a passion for the business 2. Is only 30 Years old 3. Vince likes him and his lifestyle aka he won't fail wellness 4. In 3 years has proven to be durable, hasn't suffered a big injury or even small one (Knock on wood) 5. Is marketable as face and a heel, to kids and adults. 6. Is a guy who's a star already but, not to big of a star and could still use a win like this. Extra:
Reasons Why Some Others Shouldn't:Cena - He's already the biggest star and doesn't need the win Jericho - Already an all time great, doesn't need the win Ted Jr. - Too young and hasn't proven himself but, would have a great showing to ala Orton at WM21
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Post by dh03grad on Aug 26, 2009 4:29:39 GMT -5
Ted Jr is very much viable, it just depends on what year it is that Taker retires
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Post by @TenaciousBe on Aug 26, 2009 4:32:56 GMT -5
Oh man... imagine Punk calling out Taker on his days as the American Badass? "I know, you know, all these fans know you're just putting on an act. You're not a walking dead man. Haven't you noticed that nobody plays a character like that anymore? You don't see Isaac Yankem, you don't see Duke The Dumpster Droese, you don't see Doink the Clown anymore. You know why? Because it's stupid."
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Post by KevFalcön07 on Aug 26, 2009 4:34:18 GMT -5
I said earlier in another thread I don't think anyone is worthy and no one will ever be, but, I admit, you make some very good points with CM Punk.
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Post by dh03grad on Aug 26, 2009 4:36:03 GMT -5
I said earlier in another thread I don't think anyone is worthy and no one will ever be, but, I admit, you make some very good points with CM Punk. If Hulk Hogan lost clean at Wrestlemania, anybody can. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 4:57:03 GMT -5
I said earlier in another thread I don't think anyone is worthy and no one will ever be, but, I admit, you make some very good points with CM Punk. If Hulk Hogan lost clean at Wrestlemania, anybody can. To be fair, before that Hogan fell victim to a drawat WrestleMania, so nothing was sacred for the Hulkster. Anyway, yeah, as far as I'm concerned, no one will ever end the streak. And really, I don't think Punk will ever beat Taker in a one-on-one match, much less at Mania. |
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Post by ilggant on Aug 26, 2009 5:38:41 GMT -5
If Punk beats Taker at the next PPV I will eat my hat*
*and by hat I mean vanilla ice cream. with chocolate sprinkles.
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Post by stevieraymark on Aug 26, 2009 6:02:47 GMT -5
I think it should be Cena who would turn heel during their match similar to austin vs rock at wm17 just have him violently beat up taker with a chair for a long time and voila you instantly have one of the best heelturns ever and create one of the most hated heels ever.
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Post by Dolph Zalgo on Aug 26, 2009 6:05:27 GMT -5
No one should break it and Undertaker should retire next Wrestlemania. The big question is WHO his opponent should be. I don't see anyone in WWE right now that would be a REAL threat to him and there's no that much time left to build up a credible monsterheel.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Aug 26, 2009 6:14:35 GMT -5
If Hulk Hogan lost clean at Wrestlemania, anybody can. anybody?  |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 26, 2009 6:27:29 GMT -5
No one should break it and Undertaker should retire next Wrestlemania. The big question is WHO his opponent should be. I don't see anyone in WWE right now that would be a REAL threat to him and there's no that much time left to build up a credible monsterheel. Six months isn't long enough? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 6:31:21 GMT -5
I disagree that Taker should retire this year - at this point, his appearances are sporadic enough and his record's high enough that he should go 20-0.
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Post by dh03grad on Aug 26, 2009 18:29:23 GMT -5
If Hulk Hogan lost clean at Wrestlemania, anybody can. anybody? Not sure of the point you are attempting to make, but Hulk is the biggest star Vince has ever had and hes lost on the biggest stage to put people over. If he did that, a lesser star like The Undertaker can do so. Hulk's time as a main eventer was running out in 1990 and things became stagnant. Warrior was the best man for the job in 1990 to draw in business. It fell short of Hogan, yes, but it was worth the try. CM Punk may end up being a Shawn Michaels level complete flop as a head of the company draw, but you still try. |
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Post by hajimenoippo on Aug 26, 2009 18:31:57 GMT -5
It has to be a big guy capeable of making people believe in him the same way people buy into Undertaker.
A small guy like Punk doesn't need it at this point.
I don't think anybody should break the streak, and if it is somebody, their overness has to qualify them for that spot.
If Batista was 29 instead of 39 he would have beat Taker at 23
If they can get Swagger over like Rover in the next 8 months, i'd be all for Swagger beating him at 27
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Post by primetime110 on Aug 26, 2009 18:37:44 GMT -5
noone should beat Taker. If Edge or Orton couldn't, punk shouldn't come close.
The only downfall to Taker never losing at WM is I have no interest in his matches because you know he will win.
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Post by parder on Aug 26, 2009 18:39:06 GMT -5
You make a good pitch, but the thing about the streak is that once you break it you can never bring it back. It's become a great USP for Wrestlemania. So that's likely to always play on Vince's mind when making a decision
One thing I like about the streak recently is the way in which the matches have been getting better each year, since the value of the streak has caused him to be able to get better wrestlers to work with (Batista, Edge, HBK). I guess one point you can make is that it's likely impossible to top this year's match.
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Post by dh03grad on Aug 26, 2009 18:50:34 GMT -5
You make a good pitch, but the thing about the streak is that once you break it you can never bring it back. It's become a great USP for Wrestlemania. So that's likely to always play on Vince's mind when making a decision One thing I like about the streak recently is the way in which the matches have been getting better each year, since the value of the streak has caused him to be able to get better wrestlers to work with (Batista, Edge, HBK). I guess one point you can make is that it's likely impossible to top this year's match. The thing is, Cena has been built up as Superman since 2003, who only loses matches at all due to complete BS with very few exceptions. Undertaker has been the most protected wrestler in history with the undefeated Mania streak. If you put the belt back on Cena, and build this up correctly, it absolutely can be this generation's Hogan-Andre. With John Cena matches, you absolutely know that he will either win, or lose via interference. With Undertaker's Mania matches, we all know it is a foregone conclusion when he wrestles. Anyone at all think that Mark Henry or HBK was going to beat him? Of course not. Having them face at Mania where there will be no outside interference, sets up doubt. With doubt comes intrigue. With intrigue brings dollars. A properly built up Cena-Taker match would be the biggest WWE match since 1990. Do it before either suffer another serious injury. |
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Post by Hawk Hart on Aug 26, 2009 18:53:34 GMT -5
I fully support Taker losing the streak. It's overblown, and frankly, looking at the names on the list, not all that impressive.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 18:58:10 GMT -5
I fully support Taker losing the streak. It's overblown, and frankly, looking at the names on the list, not all that impressive. HBK,Flair,Triple H,Batista,Kevin Nash,Sid,Orton,Edge and Big Show? That's a lotta World Champions |
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Post by parder on Aug 26, 2009 19:02:44 GMT -5
You make a good pitch, but the thing about the streak is that once you break it you can never bring it back. It's become a great USP for Wrestlemania. So that's likely to always play on Vince's mind when making a decision One thing I like about the streak recently is the way in which the matches have been getting better each year, since the value of the streak has caused him to be able to get better wrestlers to work with (Batista, Edge, HBK). I guess one point you can make is that it's likely impossible to top this year's match. The thing is, Cena has been built up as Superman since 2003, who only loses matches at all due to complete BS with very few exceptions. Undertaker has been the most protected wrestler in history with the undefeated Mania streak. If you put the belt back on Cena, and build this up correctly, it absolutely can be this generation's Hogan-Andre. With John Cena matches, you absolutely know that he will either win, or lose via interference. With Undertaker's Mania matches, we all know it is a foregone conclusion when he wrestles. Anyone at all think that Mark Henry or HBK was going to beat him? Of course not. Having them face at Mania where there will be no outside interference, sets up doubt. With doubt comes intrigue. With intrigue brings dollars. A properly built up Cena-Taker match would be the biggest WWE match since 1990. Do it before either suffer another serious injury. Agree that Cena-Taker could be huge. My last point was more about the quality of the wrestling, but that doesn't always matter if the crowd is very in to it. And Cena and Taker could do a pretty good job in terms of wrestling quality too. |
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