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Post by briant1 on Feb 3, 2009 20:30:33 GMT -5
The Gambler
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Post by The Varsity Club on Feb 4, 2009 0:41:16 GMT -5
the mystro
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Post by Cela on Feb 4, 2009 2:52:23 GMT -5
Absolutely, considering that using DDP properly as part of the Invasion could've made WWF tons more money, as was the case with all the WCW main eventers. How do you figure? DDP has the distinction of main eventing one of the lowest drawing PPVs of all-time and his world title reigns in WCW didn't exactly set the world on fire. Slamboree 2000 had a .14 buyrate, good for 5th lowest ever. Kollision in Korea, for crying out loud, had a higher buyrate and was promoted exclusively on Worldwide. Better yet, he holds a place with Scott Steiner at Greed for lowest WCW PPV buyrate of all-time at .10. How was that guy, at age 45 mind you, supposed to make "tons" more money for the WWF? Source: www.100megsfree4.com/wiawrestling/pages/wcw/wcwppvbr.htmPeople older than 45 are never a draw...
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Post by Baixo Astral on Feb 4, 2009 6:42:11 GMT -5
and Daffney, she would have been a great heel for Lita/Trish back in 2001. She... erm... can't wrestle. And back then, her look was terrible. Now, however, when she's not Sarah Fakelin, she's... ahem... damn.
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Post by mcclanahan on Feb 4, 2009 8:16:35 GMT -5
and Daffney, she would have been a great heel for Lita/Trish back in 2001. She... erm... can't wrestle. And back then, her look was terrible. Now, however, when she's not Sarah Fakelin, she's... ahem... damn. ok admittedly she wasn't a very good wrestler...but the scream queen looked great then and now
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Post by casualobserver on Feb 4, 2009 9:20:55 GMT -5
A lot of these guys DID get chances. Devon Storm worked a ton of Shotgun tapings in 1997. LaReoux, Sanders, Skipper, and Romeo all had time in developmental. Scott Norton was the apple of Vince's eye from mid 1990 all the way up until WCW got him to sign full time in 1995, but he, Norton, chose not to sign. DDP was pretty old to be brought in as a new wrestler. Did you really think he'd get past mid card level when nearly all of the guys above him were 10-15 years younger than him? I really think Norton in WWE would have been awesome. Especially during the new generation. As Man Mountain Rock's tag-team partner?
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 4, 2009 9:29:57 GMT -5
and Daffney, she would have been a great heel for Lita/Trish back in 2001. She... erm... can't wrestle. And back then, her look was terrible. Now, however, when she's not Sarah Fakelin, she's... ahem... damn. Huh uh buh wuhhhhhh..... I'm sorry, I think I just went into some sort of trance.
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Post by romafan87 on Feb 4, 2009 11:14:39 GMT -5
How do you figure? DDP has the distinction of main eventing one of the lowest drawing PPVs of all-time and his world title reigns in WCW didn't exactly set the world on fire. Slamboree 2000 had a .14 buyrate, good for 5th lowest ever. Kollision in Korea, for crying out loud, had a higher buyrate and was promoted exclusively on Worldwide. Better yet, he holds a place with Scott Steiner at Greed for lowest WCW PPV buyrate of all-time at .10. How was that guy, at age 45 mind you, supposed to make "tons" more money for the WWF? Source: www.100megsfree4.com/wiawrestling/pages/wcw/wcwppvbr.htmPeople older than 45 are never a draw... First off, you can make many arguments that Flair isn't the draw that people crack him up to be. He was a legend in a regional promotion and when he came to the WWF the first time, there was a decent size chunk of the audience who didn't know who he was. If he drew any sort of TV ratings, those viewers would have followed him. Instead, he benefited from being the biggest fish in a small pond and carefully crafted and promoted himself as the greatest ever. Here's some proof: WWF 1991 PPVs and buyrates: Royal Rumble: 3.1 WM VII: 2.8 Summerslam: 2.7 Survivor Series, Flair's first PPV, has Survival match: 2.2 WWF 1992 PPVs and buyrates: Royal Rubmble, won by Flair: 1.8 (-1.3) WM VIII, co-headlined by Flair: 2.3 (-.5) Summerslam, whose corner is Flair in?: 1.5 (-1.2) Survivor Series, Flair mainevents: 1.4 (.8) Now, does this mean he was a bad wrestler? Not at all, I love Ric Flair, however, if you take a look at the numbers, PPV buyrates went down in the WWF when Flair got there. Now, this could have been due to a number of things: Hogan leaving, steroids, bad booking, etc. But if Ric Flair was really the numbers drawing stud everyone says he was, he would have, at the very least, put some sort of breaks on the skid. Also, when Flair returned to WCW in 1993, all of THOSE PPV buyrates, with the exception of Starcade '93, where he took on Vader, went down, too. Meanwhile, Hulk Hogan comes in and literally doubles most of their buyrates. If you choose to look at Flair's 1999 main event run, those buyrates go down, also. Ric Flair was possibly getting people to come to the shows, but he wasn't drawing anyone new at that point. I never said someone older than 45 couldn't draw, look at what Hogan does for the Raw numbers when he comes back, but pick your battles. Flair was a great wrestler, but completely overblown as any semblance of a draw later in his career.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2009 11:32:58 GMT -5
I would have liked to see them re-sign Chris Candido after his WCW run and let him be himself. Not as a BodyDonna.
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Post by Jake, The Jake, Jake on Feb 4, 2009 12:23:25 GMT -5
I think DDP could have really done well if they simply didn't have the Undertaker feud. He was a great wrestler but he obviously couldn't main event for much longer, and that feud could only have 1 of 2 conclusions. Either DDP goes over Taker and is immediately thrust into a scene where he can't realistically last much longer, or he loses to Taker and is made to look like a moron for bothering a WWE guy. The latter is what took place and it left Page with no where else to go. Now, if they had simply brought him in to the upper mid-card and used him simply to put over younger guys that had a lot of years left in them, he would have been a valuable asset to the WWE.
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Post by romafan87 on Feb 5, 2009 18:10:18 GMT -5
I think DDP could have really done well if they simply didn't have the Undertaker feud. He was a great wrestler but he obviously couldn't main event for much longer, and that feud could only have 1 of 2 conclusions. Either DDP goes over Taker and is immediately thrust into a scene where he can't realistically last much longer, or he loses to Taker and is made to look like a moron for bothering a WWE guy. The latter is what took place and it left Page with no where else to go. Now, if they had simply brought him in to the upper mid-card and used him simply to put over younger guys that had a lot of years left in them, he would have been a valuable asset to the WWE. This is a lot more plausible than making a ton more money.
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Feb 5, 2009 18:26:48 GMT -5
Jason Jett/EZ Money
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Post by romafan87 on Feb 5, 2009 22:03:42 GMT -5
He got a crack during the buyout. He was stuck in development his whole time though.
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