Titus Sinclair
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Post by Titus Sinclair on Jul 20, 2009 8:28:22 GMT -5
knockout division sucks and is not really better than wwe. Outside og Kong its all a bunch of blonde bimbo looking people.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Jul 20, 2009 9:25:42 GMT -5
knockout division sucks and is not really better than wwe. Outside og Kong its all a bunch of blonde bimbo looking people. Apart from Taylor and the three that are supposed to be parodying WWE Divas, none of them are "blonde bimbo looking people".
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Titus Sinclair
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Post by Titus Sinclair on Jul 20, 2009 9:34:12 GMT -5
Let me explain my disinterest a little further...
I dont think the beautiful people are truly a parody. They did the same stuff in the indies before the goofy name change and TNA call up.
Christy Hemme, Tara and SHarmell are all wwe castaways
Sojo is just some random indy talent without charisma or personality
ODb, Daffney, Kahn, Saeed are all live action cartoon characters, they are not funny, attractive, and are booked in such ways to make them seem at least to me untalented. They are loud and overact and just because Daffney took thumb tacks that doesn't make her good.
So Cal Val and Traci Brooks are not talented and wastes. They contribute nothing to the division.
Jenna is a reality tv star and I have no clue who Sarita is...
Not a division I want to watch
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Jul 20, 2009 9:52:51 GMT -5
Let me explain my disinterest a little further... Fair enough. So what if they did? CM Punk has essentially the same gimmick, doesn't make him any less great. Maybe parody isn't the word but the things you complain about are part of the gimmick. Sharmell doesn't wrestle. Christy is unfortunate but she's a draw. And Tara is talented. Who cares where they came from? Agreed but she's hardly being used these days. Khan I agree with. And ODB has been booked badly lately. But Daffney's character is interesting and taking a bump most guys wouldn't doesn't make her good, it makes her awesome. Saeed is where you really lose me. First off, she's not Saeed anymore. Second she's arguably the best women's wrestler in North America. When they actually let her loose with this Alissa Flash gimmick, she'll be something worth watching. Val doesn't wrestle and Traci hasn't been seen in months. Jenna doesn't wrestle (here's hoping Victory Road was a one off) and Sarita is just plain awesome. Honestly, you're missing out then.
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Post by toodarkmark on Jul 20, 2009 10:19:48 GMT -5
they can't even book one show you want them to book two, especially when the second has so many temptations for cheap and easy storylines and pole-matches and wrestlers being devalued from wrestlers to eye candy? You sound like you're regurgitating concepts you've read online on why TNA might be bad. These are dated because the booking has been amazing lately. Cheap and easy? What's an expensive and hard storyline comrade? Wrestlers devalued from wrestlers to eye candy? Who fits under this category? You are definitely watching some show that I am not. But back to the topic, I am do not think it would work. Although many people would watch it, certain aspects of sexism will emerge within the halls of Spike TV and wrestling fans. In the end too many wrestling fans just don't care about women's wrestling. In the context of the show it gets high ratings, but alone it would be exposed and compared non-stop to Wrestleicious and Glow. It works much better as part of the overall product and I would much rather they had a show that focused on the X Division so that they can bring in Indy guys to build for the next generation.
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Post by toodarkmark on Jul 20, 2009 10:21:40 GMT -5
Let me explain my disinterest a little further... I dont think the beautiful people are truly a parody. They did the same stuff in the indies before the goofy name change and TNA call up. Christy Hemme, Tara and SHarmell are all wwe castaways Sojo is just some random indy talent without charisma or personality ODb, Daffney, Kahn, Saeed are all live action cartoon characters, they are not funny, attractive, and are booked in such ways to make them seem at least to me untalented. They are loud and overact and just because Daffney took thumb tacks that doesn't make her good. So Cal Val and Traci Brooks are not talented and wastes. They contribute nothing to the division. Jenna is a reality tv star and I have no clue who Sarita is... Not a division I want to watch So don't watch it. Maybe you can pick up some books on grammar and spelling instead to fill the time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2009 10:49:07 GMT -5
Let me explain my disinterest a little further... I dont think the beautiful people are truly a parody. They did the same stuff in the indies before the goofy name change and TNA call up. Christy Hemme, Tara and SHarmell are all wwe castaways Sojo is just some random indy talent without charisma or personality ODb, Daffney, Kahn, Saeed are all live action cartoon characters, they are not funny, attractive, and are booked in such ways to make them seem at least to me untalented. They are loud and overact and just because Daffney took thumb tacks that doesn't make her good. So Cal Val and Traci Brooks are not talented and wastes. They contribute nothing to the division. Jenna is a reality tv star and I have no clue who Sarita is... Not a division I want to watch So don't watch it. Maybe you can pick up some books on grammar and spelling instead to fill the time. Let's try and keep this civil shall we, no need to attack someone because you don't agree with them
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2009 11:04:07 GMT -5
I'd watch an all KO's show.
Alyssa Flash, Sarita, Taylor Wilde, The Beautiful People, Tara, Daffney, Kong, ODB and the new Japanese talent they've signed would be a dynamic show. If they brough back Roxxi that'd be great, but with nearly 15 people on the roster (if you want to count the lesser KO's like Hemme, Bolt and Khan) they have more than enough to have a great hour long show. ECW does the same with way less people.
At most - you'll have what? Maybe four matches - maybe five, in an hour long show. A couple of tag team matches, and a couple of singles match and boom, that's the whole show.
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Post by Lionheart on Jul 20, 2009 11:05:38 GMT -5
I'm thinking maybe only half an hour, actually.
Also, I think the best way to go about it would be to tape the matches/segments during regular Impact tapings, because getting crowds to show up specifically for the all-Knockouts show might be difficult, at least at first.
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Post by mike5286 on Jul 20, 2009 13:18:54 GMT -5
Let me explain my disinterest a little further... I dont think the beautiful people are truly a parody. They did the same stuff in the indies before the goofy name change and TNA call up. Christy Hemme, Tara and SHarmell are all wwe castaways Sojo is just some random indy talent without charisma or personality ODb, Daffney, Kahn, Saeed are all live action cartoon characters, they are not funny, attractive, and are booked in such ways to make them seem at least to me untalented. They are loud and overact and just because Daffney took thumb tacks that doesn't make her good. So Cal Val and Traci Brooks are not talented and wastes. They contribute nothing to the division. Jenna is a reality tv star and I have no clue who Sarita is... Not a division I want to watch TNA Knockout Division has batter wrestlers in the division. As for Daffney and Cheerleader Melissa not being attractive what the f*** is wrong with you Rancor.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2009 15:21:57 GMT -5
I'd rather watch an all knockout show than the current Impact.
Just bring in a few more names to fill the division and they'd be good to go.
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Post by Massive G on Jul 20, 2009 15:27:11 GMT -5
not really. i mean, impact barely works
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Titus Sinclair
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Post by Titus Sinclair on Jul 20, 2009 18:07:24 GMT -5
Let me explain my disinterest a little further... I dont think the beautiful people are truly a parody. They did the same stuff in the indies before the goofy name change and TNA call up. Christy Hemme, Tara and SHarmell are all wwe castaways Sojo is just some random indy talent without charisma or personality ODb, Daffney, Kahn, Saeed are all live action cartoon characters, they are not funny, attractive, and are booked in such ways to make them seem at least to me untalented. They are loud and overact and just because Daffney took thumb tacks that doesn't make her good. So Cal Val and Traci Brooks are not talented and wastes. They contribute nothing to the division. Jenna is a reality tv star and I have no clue who Sarita is... Not a division I want to watch TNA Knockout Division has batter wrestlers in the division. As for Daffney and Cheerleader Melissa not being attractive what the f*** is wrong with you Rancor. lol cheerleader Melissa has been under an Arab garment since she debuted. I didn't know she was no longer saeed. And I am not fond of Daffneys look at all. I think I would be more interested if they brought in more talent from shimmer.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 20, 2009 22:30:37 GMT -5
It'd be ratings death after the first couple weeks.
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Post by Next Level was WRONG on Jul 20, 2009 22:53:20 GMT -5
They're already enough of a joke as it is, you separate their T.V. time from the rest of the rosters and they'll be dead within a year.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jul 20, 2009 22:57:21 GMT -5
I think they could pull off a one hour show. I mean they are usually one of the highest if not the highest rated part of iMPACT! so it would be worth a shot.
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Post by Next Level was WRONG on Jul 20, 2009 23:05:22 GMT -5
I'm also guessing that this would mean the removal of the female roster from iMPACT? Here's the thing though, if they get a female star who hits it big and gets really over, there would be no possibility of upward movement. All they would be able to do is main event the womens show, which, put simply, would be generally considered the "B" show by the office and audience alike. Whereas, their match can move up the card on iMPACT as their popularity grows.
Unless they had a extremely large and established womens division, pretty much everyone would be dead in the water. Especially with the bookers they have now.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jul 20, 2009 23:08:36 GMT -5
I'm also guessing that this would mean the removal of the female roster from iMPACT? Here's the thing though, if they get a female star who hits it big and gets really over, there would be no possibility of upward movement. All they would be able to do is main event the womens show, which, put simply, would be generally considered the "B" show by the office and audience alike. Whereas, their match can move up the card on iMPACT as their popularity grows. They could work it like ROH does with Shimmer and have a match a show on iMPACT! so the top KO talent gets some more exposure and if they are over enough, headline an iMPACT or draw more to the KO show.
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Post by EJS on Jul 20, 2009 23:25:43 GMT -5
et me explain my disinterest a little further...
I dont think the beautiful people are truly a parody. They did the same stuff in the indies before the goofy name change and TNA call up.
Talia did. It was also a parody type thing. Hell the team name was T&A. Angelina was in DSW and didn't really have this kind of gimmick at all until near the end when they decided to have her join Krissy Vaine for whatever reason. And even then it's a stretch to call it the same stuff at all.
Christy Hemme, Tara and SHarmell are all wwe castaways
So? Also, Sharmell isn't a wrestler and Hemme hasn't been around since January.
Sojo is just some random indy talent without charisma or personality
I think she has charisma, but her work in the ring is lacking compared to most of the others. Wouldn't mind if TNA got rid of her.
ODb, Daffney, Kahn, Saeed are all live action cartoon characters, they are not funny, attractive, and are booked in such ways to make them seem at least to me untalented. They are loud and overact and just because Daffney took thumb tacks that doesn't make her good.
Wrestlers have to be funny and attractive? Kahn's been gone for months. ODB is the only one that's meant to be "funny". I don't think any of them are meant to be "attractive". Kahn is the only one of them id' call a bad wrestler, and again, gone.
So Cal Val and Traci Brooks are not talented and wastes. They contribute nothing to the division.
I don't recall So Cal Val ever wrestling a match ever or doing anything that involves being on tv for more than 20 seconds in like a year. Don't agree with you on Traci.
Jenna is a reality tv star and I have no clue who Sarita is...
Again, not a wrestler. Your running down of people like her as untalented wrestlers and a basis as to why the division sucks would be like saying the WWF sucked in the 80s cause guys like Slick or Lord Alfred Hayes weren't good wrestlers.
And surely Sarita must suck then.
Not a division I want to watch
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Jul 20, 2009 23:35:47 GMT -5
I think I would be more interested if they brought in more talent from shimmer. TNA actually has quite a bit of current or former Shimmer wrestlers. Some of which were on your list that you didn't like (Sojo, Daffney, Saeed, Madison Rayne who is in the Beautiful People). Likewise Sarita was in Shimmer. Likewise there's a handful of former TNA workers like Nikki Roxx and Rain who came from Shimmer. You are entitled to your opinion, but I just wanted to let you know that they bring in quite a bit of Shimmer talent in case you didn't know.
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