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Post by Angus Mcloud on Jul 21, 2009 0:46:09 GMT -5
TNA works better as a name for a womens promotion anyways
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Post by Titus Sinclair on Jul 21, 2009 2:53:19 GMT -5
I think I would be more interested if they brought in more talent from shimmer. TNA actually has quite a bit of current or former Shimmer wrestlers. Some of which were on your list that you didn't like (Sojo, Daffney, Saeed, Madison Rayne who is in the Beautiful People). Likewise Sarita was in Shimmer. Likewise there's a handful of former TNA workers like Nikki Roxx and Rain who came from Shimmer. You are entitled to your opinion, but I just wanted to let you know that they bring in quite a bit of Shimmer talent in case you didn't know. I am fully aware...Kong also competes there but the once I mentioned aren't good outside of Cheerleader Melissa who has not been used properly at all. And I didn't say anything about Roxxi cause firing her was a mistake. I think for a truly good division you would need say Haze, Del Ray, Al Danger, Portia Perez in addition to Kong and Roxxi and Melissa. I would watch that division
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Post by Titus Sinclair on Jul 21, 2009 2:57:01 GMT -5
et me explain my disinterest a little further... I dont think the beautiful people are truly a parody. They did the same stuff in the indies before the goofy name change and TNA call up. Talia did. It was also a parody type thing. Hell the team name was T&A. Angelina was in DSW and didn't really have this kind of gimmick at all until near the end when they decided to have her join Krissy Vaine for whatever reason. And even then it's a stretch to call it the same stuff at all.Christy Hemme, Tara and SHarmell are all wwe castaways So? Also, Sharmell isn't a wrestler and Hemme hasn't been around since January.Sojo is just some random indy talent without charisma or personality I think she has charisma, but her work in the ring is lacking compared to most of the others. Wouldn't mind if TNA got rid of her.ODb, Daffney, Kahn, Saeed are all live action cartoon characters, they are not funny, attractive, and are booked in such ways to make them seem at least to me untalented. They are loud and overact and just because Daffney took thumb tacks that doesn't make her good. Wrestlers have to be funny and attractive? Kahn's been gone for months. ODB is the only one that's meant to be "funny". I don't think any of them are meant to be "attractive". Kahn is the only one of them id' call a bad wrestler, and again, gone.So Cal Val and Traci Brooks are not talented and wastes. They contribute nothing to the division. I don't recall So Cal Val ever wrestling a match ever or doing anything that involves being on tv for more than 20 seconds in like a year. Don't agree with you on Traci.
Jenna is a reality tv star and I have no clue who Sarita is... Again, not a wrestler. Your running down of people like her as untalented wrestlers and a basis as to why the division sucks would be like saying the WWF sucked in the 80s cause guys like Slick or Lord Alfred Hayes weren't good wrestlers. And surely Sarita must suck then.Not a division I want to watch a lot of what you say proves my point its not a strong division to base a show on.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Jul 21, 2009 5:41:30 GMT -5
Wow, some surprising responses.
To the person who said ratings death, the Knockouts typically do the highest rated segments on the show. That's like saying TNA doesn't want Kurt Angle because they want good wrestling.
It could be used as an extension of Impact certainly. Build up some side angles from Impact and put them into the show here.
Use jobbers to help establish some of the talent. Sojo Bolt for example hasn't had that many tv matches. You can put her over by beating some jobbers.
The men can be on the show, but only as seconds, like Cody Deaner for ODB. And a lot of girls aren't getting on tv as much in matches, like Awesome Kong, Taylor Wilde, Daffney, etc. They usually have two angles for the women going on Impact. This past week it was actually 3, with Sharmel/Sojo vs Jenna/Kong/Saeed, Angelina vs Tara and Sarita vs Alissa.
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Jul 21, 2009 9:52:19 GMT -5
I think for a truly good division you would need say Haze, Del Ray, Al Danger, Portia Perez in addition to Kong and Roxxi and Melissa. I would watch that division I definitely agree with you on those names. Especially Sara Del Rey -- I've been wanting TNA to pick her up since the Knockout division started. Likewise Daizee did have a TNA "tryout" match that was on TV, but nothing ever became of it. She would be a great signing for TNA.
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Post by EJS on Jul 21, 2009 12:12:11 GMT -5
et me explain my disinterest a little further... I dont think the beautiful people are truly a parody. They did the same stuff in the indies before the goofy name change and TNA call up. Talia did. It was also a parody type thing. Hell the team name was T&A. Angelina was in DSW and didn't really have this kind of gimmick at all until near the end when they decided to have her join Krissy Vaine for whatever reason. And even then it's a stretch to call it the same stuff at all.Christy Hemme, Tara and SHarmell are all wwe castaways So? Also, Sharmell isn't a wrestler and Hemme hasn't been around since January.Sojo is just some random indy talent without charisma or personality I think she has charisma, but her work in the ring is lacking compared to most of the others. Wouldn't mind if TNA got rid of her.ODb, Daffney, Kahn, Saeed are all live action cartoon characters, they are not funny, attractive, and are booked in such ways to make them seem at least to me untalented. They are loud and overact and just because Daffney took thumb tacks that doesn't make her good. Wrestlers have to be funny and attractive? Kahn's been gone for months. ODB is the only one that's meant to be "funny". I don't think any of them are meant to be "attractive". Kahn is the only one of them id' call a bad wrestler, and again, gone.So Cal Val and Traci Brooks are not talented and wastes. They contribute nothing to the division. I don't recall So Cal Val ever wrestling a match ever or doing anything that involves being on tv for more than 20 seconds in like a year. Don't agree with you on Traci.
Jenna is a reality tv star and I have no clue who Sarita is... Again, not a wrestler. Your running down of people like her as untalented wrestlers and a basis as to why the division sucks would be like saying the WWF sucked in the 80s cause guys like Slick or Lord Alfred Hayes weren't good wrestlers. And surely Sarita must suck then.Not a division I want to watch a lot of what you say proves my point its not a strong division to base a show on. I'm not sure I see how. Only bad thing I said was that Bolt isn't a good wrestler, unless again you're counting all the bad things about the valets and people who have been fired for months.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2009 12:15:07 GMT -5
I feel I should say Christy Hemme is just injured
She has not been released
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Post by Titus Sinclair on Jul 21, 2009 12:31:45 GMT -5
a lot of what you say proves my point its not a strong division to base a show on. I'm not sure I see how. Only bad thing I said was that Bolt isn't a good wrestler, unless again you're counting all the bad things about the valets and people who have been fired for months. Yeah actually, when taking away the valets and Kahn, and Jenna you are left with a tiny uninteresting division. Certainly not one to base an entire show around
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2009 12:38:39 GMT -5
I'm not sure I see how. Only bad thing I said was that Bolt isn't a good wrestler, unless again you're counting all the bad things about the valets and people who have been fired for months. Yeah actually, when taking away the valets and Kahn, and Jenna you are left with a tiny uninteresting division. Certainly not one to base an entire show around I don't know man. Alyssa Flash (awesome!), Sarita (Lucha awesome), the Japanese Girl they just signed (puro awesome), The Beautiful People (old school heel awesome times 3), Daffney (hardcore awesome), Tara (pre-established awesomeness), Taylor Wilde (okay, not awesome, but very solid ringwork). There's nine wrestlers right there that are seven different kinds of awesome. Combined with ODB, Hemme and Traci. You could put together an easily entertaining hour long show. If they left the valets Kahn and Bolt (aka DEAD WEIGHT) on Impact they'd have an AWESOME show!
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Post by EJS on Jul 21, 2009 12:40:45 GMT -5
I'm not sure I see how. Only bad thing I said was that Bolt isn't a good wrestler, unless again you're counting all the bad things about the valets and people who have been fired for months. Yeah actually, when taking away the valets and Kahn, and Jenna you are left with a tiny uninteresting division. Certainly not one to base an entire show around Except you didn't mention anywhere near the entire roster. Angelina Love Awesome Kong Ayako Hamada Daffney Madison Rayne ODB Raisha Saeed/Alissa Flash Sarita Sojo Bolt Tara Taylor Wilde Velvet Sky I'd say that's enough for a one hour show, especially considering they'd probably bring in a few more if they did such a thing. But I don't see a lot of need for them to make an all knockouts show myself. Mostly because there's already so much wrestling on almost every day of the week.
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Post by Titus Sinclair on Jul 21, 2009 12:44:02 GMT -5
I have already expressed my distaste for most of those wrestlers. Like I siad above they would need to get more shimmer talent for my interest. I am not you though so we can have different opinions. ODB alone makes me change the channel
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2009 12:46:50 GMT -5
I have already expressed my distaste for most of those wrestlers. Like I siad above they would need to get more shimmer talent for my interest. I am not you though so we can have different opinions. ODB alone makes me change the channel Yeah, they could easily lose ODB and it wouldn't hurt my feelings either. But to each their own. If you haven't checked out Sarita yet though, you'll probably remember as the Dark Angel Sarah Stock from Shimmer. She came out of no where and owned Shimmer for two or three volumes!
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Post by Crystal Visions on Jul 21, 2009 12:48:38 GMT -5
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Post by EJS on Jul 21, 2009 12:48:51 GMT -5
I pretty much agree on ODB. From back when I'd watch OVW I'd wonder why the hell people cheer her. Her character seems so intentionally annoying. Though she's gotten to be a pretty good wrestler since then.
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Post by thatguybayne on Jul 21, 2009 13:37:24 GMT -5
Could someone please inform Awesome Kong that I want to have her babies. Don't tell Daffney though cause I want to have her babies too.
And rancor, although I disagree with your views I just love your sig.
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Post by Titus Sinclair on Jul 21, 2009 13:44:16 GMT -5
Its ok to disagree, everyone has different tastes. I am glad someone gets the sig lol
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Post by thatguybayne on Jul 21, 2009 13:55:50 GMT -5
There's a war going on out there. Damn, that's a great show but I digress... We were talking about me having Kong's Babies, right? About TNA being a better name for a women's fed Traci Brook and Christie Hemme came down to Australia to promote the KNockouts DVD and sports tonight actually called it T&A wrestling and from thier report people would have been none the wiser that TNA actually has men in it too let alone Sting, Kurt Angle and (at the time) Christian Cage.
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Jul 21, 2009 14:26:49 GMT -5
I'd love to see them pull it off. If it looked that they could have success I believe that they would put money into rounding out the roster and more wrestling on my tv means less non wrestling that have to watch. They could introduce tag belts. Plus keep the them on TNA to further angles in order to promote their show
Look at what ECW does with it's roster size. The only issue is the day and time.
EDIT: I get Roxxi back on my TV
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