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Post by calmlikeabomb420 on Oct 3, 2009 0:33:28 GMT -5
was bret hart really 3-0 vs gold berg and at what event did this happen
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Post by calmlikeabomb420 on Oct 3, 2009 0:35:28 GMT -5
events i meant and if this is true then what wrestler didnt bret hart own? im thinking he was right.. best there is..blah blah blah.. fact
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Post by johnnyk9 on Oct 3, 2009 4:32:29 GMT -5
even though Bret got the best of him, he ended Bret's career
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Post by Youngie on Oct 3, 2009 7:00:03 GMT -5
I think it's 2-0 to Bret [Starrcade '99 & WCW Nitro wins).
Goldberg seemed to have no regard for Bret in those matches. He was so sloppy and of course ended Bret's career.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Oct 3, 2009 12:19:16 GMT -5
Sigh. Goldberg did not end Bret Hart's career. Yes, he gave Hart a concussion, but he wrestled several times with said concussion. He even did a hardcore match with Terry Funk which gave him another concussion. And THAT is what ended Bret HArt's career, not Goldbergs initial sidekick.
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Post by wasimperviz on Oct 3, 2009 18:22:29 GMT -5
Goldberg never beat Bret in a match which says a lot because Goldberg beat many big names. I thought these two superstars worked very well together. Yes Goldberg ended his career but mistakes happen.
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Post by derrtaysouth95 on Oct 4, 2009 16:53:18 GMT -5
GOLDBERG DID NOT END BRET's CAREER!!!!
If BRET HART had gotten himself checked out properly after his match against GOLDBERG and not had SEVERAL matches following that one while working with mounting concussions....he MIGHT have lasted logner.
ONCE AGAIN......BRET. SCREWED. BRET.
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Post by The Ipod Sting on Oct 4, 2009 19:28:58 GMT -5
Bret pins Goldberg on Nitro in March 1999 after he spears Bret's disguised metal chestplate = Bret 1-0 Golderg
Bret pins Goldberg in WCW World title tournament (and takes his U.S. title) in November 1999 = Bret 2-0 Goldberg
Bret "submits" Goldberg at Starrcade 1999 = Bret 3-0 Goldberg
Bret pins Goldberg on the next Nitro in a World Title re-match after Nash and Hall interfere = Bret 4-0 Goldberg
I've also got a vague WCW memory of Bret laying out Goldberg in the desert with a shovel? This was after Bret had retired from in-ring competition. Anyway, in kayfabe, Goldberg was pretty much repeatedly owned by Bret, not the kind of face/heel booking you'd see today.
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Post by quantum on Oct 5, 2009 16:57:21 GMT -5
Sigh. Goldberg did not end Bret Hart's career. Yes, he gave Hart a concussion, but he wrestled several times with said concussion. He even did a hardcore match with Terry Funk which gave him another concussion. And THAT is what ended Bret HArt's career, not Goldbergs initial sidekick. Add to that accidents happen in wrestling. Only when it;s a wrestler the net fans don.;t like somehow it;s the other wrestlers fault. Bret didn;t get himself checked out and that;s the risk you take in any sport injury. You could argue that Bret Hart ended his own career by even being in the ring because injury's happen. |
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Post by wasimperviz on Oct 5, 2009 17:38:27 GMT -5
If Bret did not get hurt when he did I feel Bret & Goldberg would had gone onto doing so much more work together.
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Post by markdown474 on Oct 6, 2009 7:11:21 GMT -5
If Bret did not get hurt when he did I feel Bret & Goldberg would had gone onto doing so much more work together. I doubt it....that would have meant WCW was booking things in a reasonable and consistent manner. My guess is that if Bret didn't get injured, he would have been placed in a feud with Vince Russo's mom. |
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Post by matt86 on Oct 6, 2009 8:03:38 GMT -5
Sigh. Goldberg did not end Bret Hart's career. Yes, he gave Hart a concussion, but he wrestled several times with said concussion. He even did a hardcore match with Terry Funk which gave him another concussion. And THAT is what ended Bret HArt's career, not Goldbergs initial sidekick. Sorry, but you're wrong. Bret makes it clear in his book that the concussion he sustained from Goldberg caused a hole in the back of his head or something. He makes it clear anyway that it was the main reason for his retirement and possibly the stroke later on. He does admit he didnt know it was that bad at the time, and just took loads of painkillers that did nothing, but he blames wcw for not checking his injury out properly and alllowing him to continue wrestling after the accident. He himself is propbably just as much to blame for carrying on afterwards but how was he to know the extent of the injury? Put it down to ignorance on the part of both parties yes but Goldberg's mule kick certainly did the initial, and lasting, damage |
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Post by wasimperviz on Oct 6, 2009 10:17:53 GMT -5
If Bret did not get hurt when he did I feel Bret & Goldberg would had gone onto doing so much more work together. I doubt it....that would have meant WCW was booking things in a reasonable and consistent manner. My guess is that if Bret didn't get injured, he would have been placed in a feud with Vince Russo's mom. Bret / Russo would had been interesting but I feel WCW could have really set up the first Goldberg vs Bret match as a huge deal but they dropped the ball. |
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Post by Youngie on Oct 6, 2009 12:22:50 GMT -5
Bret / Russo would had been interesting but I feel WCW could have really set up the first Goldberg vs Bret match as a huge deal but they dropped the ball. Bret vs. Russo would've been interesting? Bret vs. Russo would've been the pits IMO. |
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Post by quantum on Oct 6, 2009 15:10:36 GMT -5
Sigh. Goldberg did not end Bret Hart's career. Yes, he gave Hart a concussion, but he wrestled several times with said concussion. He even did a hardcore match with Terry Funk which gave him another concussion. And THAT is what ended Bret HArt's career, not Goldbergs initial sidekick. Sorry, but you're wrong. Bret makes it clear in his book that the concussion he sustained from Goldberg caused a hole in the back of his head or something. He makes it clear anyway that it was the main reason for his retirement and possibly the stroke later on. He does admit he didnt know it was that bad at the time, and just took loads of painkillers that did nothing, but he blames wcw for not checking his injury out properly and alllowing him to continue wrestling after the accident. He himself is propbably just as much to blame for carrying on afterwards but how was he to know the extent of the injury? Put it down to ignorance on the part of both parties yes but Goldberg's mule kick certainly did the initial, and lasting, damage Still doesn;t change the fact he didn;t get himself checked out properly after the match. Comes down to personnel responsibility on Bret's part IMO at the end of the day and accidents happen in all sports (and walks of life) including wrestling. |
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Post by wasimperviz on Oct 6, 2009 18:00:18 GMT -5
Does anyone feel when Bret first joined WCW should he had worked with Goldberg right away? You know calling out the best?
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Post by Ryushinku on Oct 7, 2009 4:54:07 GMT -5
By Dec '97, Goldberg was still wrestling jobbers and guys like Mongo though.
I think Bret should've feuded (much longer) with Flair, and been around for a face-face angle against Sting. I don't think Bret should've been a heel in WCW until much much later on.
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Post by wasimperviz on Oct 7, 2009 10:37:38 GMT -5
By Dec '97, Goldberg was still wrestling jobbers and guys like Mongo though. I think Bret should've feuded (much longer) with Flair, and been around for a face-face angle against Sting. I don't think Bret should've been a heel in WCW until much much later on. I feel a Bret vs Goldberg match would have been huge face on face. If Bret could have beat Flair & Sting in long term feuds and then worked with Goldberg man would have been huge. |
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Post by Maffew on Oct 7, 2009 11:01:03 GMT -5
By Dec '97, Goldberg was still wrestling jobbers and guys like Mongo though. I think Bret should've feuded (much longer) with Flair, and been around for a face-face angle against Sting. I don't think Bret should've been a heel in WCW until much much later on. I feel a Bret vs Goldberg match would have been huge face on face. If Bret could have beat Flair & Sting in long term feuds and then worked with Goldberg man would have been huge. You know what would have been better? If it had been a three-way with Bulldog. |
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Post by wasimperviz on Oct 7, 2009 11:12:35 GMT -5
I feel a Bret vs Goldberg match would have been huge face on face. If Bret could have beat Flair & Sting in long term feuds and then worked with Goldberg man would have been huge. You know what would have been better? If it had been a three-way with Bulldog. Please do not take shots at my past topics. Bret vs Goldberg only would had worked better one on one. |
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