Is WWE really trying to bury Sheamus' title run?

[Tiger Millionaire]

Dec 22, 2009 0:15:49 GMT -5 brettappedout (BLM) said:

What he's done:
- Beat Cena

- Won Breakout Star and cut a promo about doing something Steamboat, Perfect & other HOF'ers never did.

- Came out later and had a stare down with Cena to end the show

- Squashes MVP & has another staredown with Cena this tiem in ring and smartly backs away after Cena wants his rematch.

I wouldn't say that is a buried title run. I mean we all know DX will be head of the WWE Title right now because Sheamus isn't on the level with DX.

The problem is that MVP has been buried to the point where their was no doubt what was going to happen.

[brettappedout (BLM)]

Dec 22, 2009 0:17:29 GMT -5 Tiger Millionaire said:

Dec 22, 2009 0:15:49 GMT -5 brettappedout (BLM) said:

What he's done:
- Beat Cena

- Won Breakout Star and cut a promo about doing something Steamboat, Perfect & other HOF'ers never did.

- Came out later and had a stare down with Cena to end the show

- Squashes MVP & has another staredown with Cena this tiem in ring and smartly backs away after Cena wants his rematch.

I wouldn't say that is a buried title run. I mean we all know DX will be head of the WWE Title right now because Sheamus isn't on the level with DX.

The problem is that MVP has been buried to the point where their was no doubt what was going to happen.

My point was he squash a name, not a BIG name, but still a name fans know and have chanted for and go BALLIN' with.

[DanKirby]

Dec 21, 2009 23:56:22 GMT -5 Doctor Of Style said:

They could at least put the fella's name on the belt if we're supposed to believe he'll be the champ for any length of time. How much can it cost to get 7 letters engraved on a nameplate?

Typically, it takes a few weeks or so for a first-time champ to get an engraved nameplate. They usually stick a temporary one on in the meantime, but not this time, for some reason.

[i.Sarita.com]

Dec 22, 2009 0:26:58 GMT -5 DanKirby said:

Dec 21, 2009 23:56:22 GMT -5 Doctor Of Style said:

They could at least put the fella's name on the belt if we're supposed to believe he'll be the champ for any length of time. How much can it cost to get 7 letters engraved on a nameplate?

Typically, it takes a few weeks or so for a first-time champ to get an engraved nameplate. They usually stick a temporary one on in the meantime, but not this time, for some reason.

Because hopefully he gets beat next week.

[Threadkiller [Classic]]

My problem with the Sheamus reign is the fact that since we officially began the Road to Wrestlemania about two weeks ago, the reign automatically started with a ceiling. Because there's absolutely no way Sheamus gets to Mania with the belt. Now if they'd done this in April or May, you could have had the whole summer to get him over and the fall too, if you wanted. Then by the time the next Mania season rolled around, he's legit. Right now, I'd be shocked if Sheamus was doing anything higher on the Mania card than Money in the Bank. Probably winning it, but still, I can't see him getting to Mania a) with the title or b) in a one-on-one match. Then again, I couldn't see Sheamus with the title three weeks ago, so who knows? I actually like the guy and want to see him succeed, but I just wish they hadn't hotshotted the belt onto him like this.

[rnrk supports BLM]

Remember when Punk won the title last summer and was facing Snitsky the next week on RAW while the Cena/JBL feud was still treated as the *real* major angle on the show?

This is how WWE "elevates" wrestlers these days; the same main eventers still main event, and the midcarders get to carry around an extra prop during their midcard matches.

Unfortunately, I have the feeling this sort of booking will do more to devalue both the belts and the rising stars than it will to help anyone get over.

[HMARK Center]

Dec 22, 2009 0:02:20 GMT -5 Tiger Millionaire said:

Are they trying. No. They're just totally incompetent at booking.

Concise, and to the point. Well played, my good man.

[Big L]

Dec 21, 2009 23:33:23 GMT -5 jobber2thestars said:

I know what you mean. Sheamus' reign feels more like a "how long until Cena gets the title back," rather than Sheamus being pushed as a legit champion.

^

[Lance Uppercut]

Someone (I apologize for forgetting) in another thread made mention that last night was a throwaway show that really didn't matter.

So maybe we can take that into consideration. Maybe the Road To Wrestlemania really won't get going in full swing until the 4th. To me that 4th seems like it's going to be the show that really gets things going and this week and next week's RAW are more like special holiday shows.

Sheamus' push definitely seems subdued at this point. It's almost like they pulled the trigger but aimed slightly away from the target.

My hope is that when the New Year rolls around, a good amount of time is given to Sheamus.

[Reptar]

It's only been two weeks.

[Ralnathane]

Dec 21, 2009 23:33:23 GMT -5 jobber2thestars said:

I know what you mean. Sheamus' reign feels more like a "how long until Cena gets the title back," rather than Sheamus being pushed as a legit champion.

True to a point.

The fact is that Sheamus may or may not be a transitional champion, and here's why...

We are all talking about it.

Think of it like this, which is better?

A champion that is a given to stay on top?

Or...

A champion that is given to be losing the title, but nobody is sure as to when or if it will happen sooner or later and to whom it will be?

[Back to being Cenanuff]

I don't like how they're making him back down from Cena. He could at least have a wry smile on his face when he's doing it, as if to say "not this week, fella." Right now, he just looks like he's unsure of his abililty to beat Cena again.

[xxshoyuweeniexx]

If Sheamus loses next week, and the the Rumble rematch where he'll undoubtedly lose since this isn't a match where you win if a guy falls through a table...was it all really worth it? Was it worth these few weeks? I mean his first 2 weeks and probably 3rd week will be booked horribly, and no real impact has been made other than another guy can say they were WWE Champion, like that still means something.

But in the end, it was new, very transitional, and a bit odd. But it would have worked better if:

A) It wasn't booked during the period where everyone is phoning it in because of the holidays and looks like they aren't trying that hard

B) He was given a few more months of exposure, seriously besides him being on Raw and retiring a jobber, this push could have went to anyone and would have had the exact same impact.

[Bub (BLM)]

Dec 22, 2009 11:32:04 GMT -5 Reptar said:

It's only been two weeks.

And usually when a guy wins the WWE Title, it takes approximately one day before they're making him the focal point of RAW. It's not too early to judge if the WWE Champion hasn't meant a damn thing two weeks in a row.

That being said, it makes me incredibly happy. I want not only Sheamus' WWE Title run but his entire push within WWE to fall on it's face. I hate overpushed hoss's. Lesnar, Lashley, and now Sheamus can all kiss my ass.

[Deleted]

Dec 22, 2009 12:54:39 GMT -5 Bub (BLM) said:

Dec 22, 2009 11:32:04 GMT -5 Reptar said:

It's only been two weeks.

And usually when a guy wins the WWE Title, it takes approximately one day before they're making him the focal point of RAW. It's not too early to judge if the WWE Champion hasn't meant a damn thing two weeks in a row.

That being said, it makes me incredibly happy. I want not only Sheamus' WWE Title run but his entire push within WWE to fall on it's face. I hate overpushed hoss's. Lesnar, Lashley, and now Sheamus can all kiss my ass.

GOD f***ING THANK YOU!
It's nice to know somebody else thinks Lesnar was overpushed

[Ragnal]

Dec 22, 2009 12:54:39 GMT -5 Bub (BLM) said:

Dec 22, 2009 11:32:04 GMT -5 Reptar said:

It's only been two weeks.

And usually when a guy wins the WWE Title, it takes approximately one day before they're making him the focal point of RAW. It's not too early to judge if the WWE Champion hasn't meant a damn thing two weeks in a row.

That being said, it makes me incredibly happy. I want not only Sheamus' WWE Title run but his entire push within WWE to fall on it's face. I hate overpushed hoss's. Lesnar, Lashley, and now Sheamus can all kiss my ass.

...you seriously did not just place Lesnar and Sheamus in the same category as Lashley.

[Sharpy Snow]

I have a bad feeling that this whole thing has been done so Cena can regain the title in the final match of the year to send the year out on "a high point"

[Fantozzi]

Dec 21, 2009 23:39:07 GMT -5 Tombi said:

You have looked around this forum, right? Even with Sheamus being as featured as he currently is people are complaining like mad. Can you imagine how bad it would be if he was actually being shoved down people's throats?

They're taking their time on it because people aren't used to him, "easing him in" so to speak. If they just had him takeover the show it would alienate quite a few people, pretty smart business actually. So yeah, I like how its gone so far, and I also like that Cena wasn't straight in there with the rematch or any random brawling that would ruin the second encounter.

they're taking their time... except at TLC when they gave him the WWE title
that night they probably forgot that people aren't used to him

[mrjl]

Dec 22, 2009 0:17:29 GMT -5 Tiger Millionaire said:

Dec 22, 2009 0:15:49 GMT -5 brettappedout (BLM) said:

What he's done:
- Beat Cena

- Won Breakout Star and cut a promo about doing something Steamboat, Perfect & other HOF'ers never did.

- Came out later and had a stare down with Cena to end the show

- Squashes MVP & has another staredown with Cena this tiem in ring and smartly backs away after Cena wants his rematch.

I wouldn't say that is a buried title run. I mean we all know DX will be head of the WWE Title right now because Sheamus isn't on the level with DX.

The problem is that MVP has been buried to the point where their was no doubt what was going to happen.

let's be realistic. It's a unbuilt match, that isn't going to lead to a feud on a episode of Raw that isn't really leading to anything.

Despite them wanting people to believe anything can happen the only way any wrestler in the WWE was going to win that match was if Cena interfered.

[JoDaNa1281]

Dec 22, 2009 0:57:33 GMT -5 rnrk supports BLM said:

Remember when Punk won the title last summer and was facing Snitsky the next week on RAW while the Cena/JBL feud was still treated as the *real* major angle on the show?

This is how WWE "elevates" wrestlers these days; the same main eventers still main event, and the midcarders get to carry around an extra prop during their midcard matches.

Unfortunately, I have the feeling this sort of booking will do more to devalue both the belts and the rising stars than it will to help anyone get over.

This, except replace Cena/JBL with DX/Hornswoggle