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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Feb 22, 2010 10:20:21 GMT -5
While this is normally true, this IS the Twilight fanbase we are talking about here. They, overall, have a hive mind mentality. Nearly all of them share the same general opinions with the only true separation of the ranks is....ugh I can't believe I'm typing this....Team Edward or Team Jacob. So I wouldn't at all be shocked if there were others among the fanbase that think the same as this person. Actually, I know a few Twilight fans who are quite intelligent and think the rest of the fanbase sucks. I can't really comment on the intelligence of the Twilight fans I've met, as I'm not particularly close to any of them, but I've yet to meet a Twilight fan who wasn't pretty much just a regular person. The ones I've talked to don't even get pissy when I make jokes about sparkling vampires and pedophile werewolves. Which is really disappointing, given how people 'round here try to make Twilight fans out to be raving lunatics.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2010 13:31:46 GMT -5
A "Wait 'Till Your Father Gets Home" face palm ; . Holy crap, that's going back.
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Post by Big Daddy Bad Booking on Feb 22, 2010 14:54:04 GMT -5
Eh, one moron shouldn't impugn a whole fanbase. While this is normally true, this IS the Twilight fanbase we are talking about here. They, overall, have a hive mind mentality. Nearly all of them share the same general opinions with the only true separation of the ranks is....ugh I can't believe I'm typing this....Team Edward or Team Jacob. So I wouldn't at all be shocked if there were others among the fanbase that think the same as this person. Bela Lugosi and Lon Chaney would puke in their sleeps!
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Feb 22, 2010 15:06:16 GMT -5
Actually, I know a few Twilight fans who are quite intelligent and think the rest of the fanbase sucks. I can't really comment on the intelligence of the Twilight fans I've met, as I'm not particularly close to any of them, but I've yet to meet a Twilight fan who wasn't pretty much just a regular person. The ones I've talked to don't even get pissy when I make jokes about sparkling vampires and pedophile werewolves. Which is really disappointing, given how people 'round here try to make Twilight fans out to be raving lunatics. Silly MEM, what's wrong with you using logic and reason? Seriously though, yes this person came off silly and, quite frankly, stupid but it's not because they are a Twilight fan. It's just that they are an uninformed person who happens to be a Twilight fan. We've all made mistakes like that in our lives on subjects we don't know much about but thought we did. The only difference is most people don't persue the arguement so vehemently.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 22, 2010 15:13:33 GMT -5
And in fairness, the new Wolfman, for as much as I was interested in seeing it, did suck ass.
Not really relevant to the moron at hand's argument, just putting it out there.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Feb 22, 2010 16:11:03 GMT -5
Taylor Lautner Fan Letter To Universal: Your Wolfman Ripped Off TwilightIt gives the werewolves a bad name and makes them look like some deformed mutation of a rabid dog. So in short, it makes them look like werewolves. Also, a series that made vampires sparkle has no right to complain about anything giving fictionnal creatures "a bad name." They are NOT supposed to be pretty, you know? *Goes to play some Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines for some REAL vampires and REAL werewolves.* But seriously, this had got to be some kind of joke. I mean come on, someone asking how a werewolf can be killed by a silver bullet?
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Post by AriadosMan on Feb 22, 2010 16:24:46 GMT -5
To be fair, silver wasn't effective versus werewolves until Wolfman '41.
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Post by Prince Petty on Feb 22, 2010 16:40:18 GMT -5
To be fair, silver wasn't effective versus werewolves until Wolfman '41. Well no, it wouldn't be. They aren't real. I guess we can't be too precious about these stories because, though they're based in very old folk tales and myths, they were never codified until, for example, Bram Stoker wrote Dracula, or Hollywood made Wolfman and The Mummy movies. Having said that, the little I've heard and read about the Twilight saga makes me sad. Worrying themes of anti-feminism and misogyny, coupled with very unhealthy ideas about how relationships should work. In short, it's all pretty nasty, and people do seem to take them far too seriously, when they're essentially trashy teen romance.
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Post by AriadosMan on Feb 22, 2010 17:00:39 GMT -5
To be fair, silver wasn't effective versus werewolves until Wolfman '41. Well no, it wouldn't be. They aren't real. I guess we can't be too precious about these stories because, though they're based in very old folk tales and myths, they were never codified until, for example, Bram Stoker wrote Dracula, or Hollywood made Wolfman and The Mummy movies. Having said that, the little I've heard and read about the Twilight saga makes me sad. Worrying themes of anti-feminism and misogyny, coupled with very unhealthy ideas about how relationships should work. In short, it's all pretty nasty, and people do seem to take them far too seriously, when they're essentially trashy teen romance. Yeah, Twilight's writing is poor. What we should be going after is why the text/films themselves are poorly written and made, rather than the fact that they occasionally diverge from the established portrayal. Harry Potter did alot of deconstruction of the magic/fantasy genre, but people don't dogpile on the series for "ruining fantasy forever". The reason is the huge quality gulf between Rowling and Meyer.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Feb 22, 2010 17:06:00 GMT -5
Well no, it wouldn't be. They aren't real. I guess we can't be too precious about these stories because, though they're based in very old folk tales and myths, they were never codified until, for example, Bram Stoker wrote Dracula, or Hollywood made Wolfman and The Mummy movies. Having said that, the little I've heard and read about the Twilight saga makes me sad. Worrying themes of anti-feminism and misogyny, coupled with very unhealthy ideas about how relationships should work. In short, it's all pretty nasty, and people do seem to take them far too seriously, when they're essentially trashy teen romance. Yeah, Twilight's writing is poor. What we should be going after is why the text/films themselves are poorly written and made, rather than the fact that they occasionally diverge from the established portrayal. Harry Potter did alot of deconstruction of the magic/fantasy genre, but people don't dogpile on the series for "ruining fantasy forever". The reason is the huge quality gulf between Rowling and Meyer. Well, the thing about Harry Potter is that it subtly jungled between traditional folklore and original ideas. Twilight, on the other hand, takes some creatures, only keeps the name and some very tenuous links to their origins and strips them of anything that made them, thus beating the whole purpose of using them in the first place, all because apparently, vampires and werewolves must be pretty boyfriend material now.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2010 18:01:18 GMT -5
Taylor Lautner Fan Letter To Universal: Your Wolfman Ripped Off Twilight"To whom this may concern: This movie was a complete waste and I feel that it offends ALL Twilight Fans around the world, that including myself. For one, it was a COMPLETE remaking of the Wolf Pack from the Twilight Saga: New Moon. It gives the werewolves a bad name and makes them look like some deformed mutation of a rabid dog. I actually started to like werewolves after seeing Jacob Black and all his awesomeness on the big screen at the movies. That was until I saw your crappy remake of what you call to be a "were wolf". I don't see how you live with yourself for making it the way you did. If I made this movie, I would be ashamed to even admit that I owned it. How can a werewolf be killed with a silver bullet? Better yet, have you saw the transformation of the man that is "supposed" to be the wolf? He sits in some chair and his entire body turns in to some mutated freak. If you would watch the transformation of Jacob Black, (Taylor Lautner) he doesn't come close to looking as fake, cheap and or mutated as the wolf man. You tell me, who looks to be the better werewolf. Your stupid Wolf Movie didn't even make the top Movie for the charts; Valentines Day WITH TAYLOR Lautner! Get that this is MY oppinion and I felt I wanted to express it because I saw that your email was on your site. I wanted to let you know this is what i thought of the wolf man that sucks. FREAKIN LAUTNER DID! " www.latinoreview.com/news/open-letter-to-universal-your-wolfman-ripped-off-twilight-9247 I won't be surprised if Nuttymadam wrote that letter....
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Feb 22, 2010 21:49:15 GMT -5
After thinking about it, I actually want a Twilight fan for a girlfriend. This way, she will have absolutely no place to complain about my watching wrestling.
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Post by Grendel on Feb 22, 2010 23:54:47 GMT -5
While this is normally true, this IS the Twilight fanbase we are talking about here. They, overall, have a hive mind mentality. Nearly all of them share the same general opinions with the only true separation of the ranks is....ugh I can't believe I'm typing this....Team Edward or Team Jacob. So I wouldn't at all be shocked if there were others among the fanbase that think the same as this person. Bela Lugosi and Lon Chaney would puke in their sleeps! Speaking of which, I'm still bummed that I never got to see London After Midnight, and I never will ...
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Post by HMARK Center on Feb 23, 2010 0:15:05 GMT -5
By the by, facepalm pics have almost completely lost their meaning. I long for the days when it was just the simple Picard picture, not the motivational posters (which are being done wrong, of course).
That said, the "Wait 'Til Your Father Gets Home" one gets major points for uniqueness.
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Post by Jay Broni on Feb 23, 2010 0:23:02 GMT -5
F*** this generation.
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Post by hajimenoippo on Feb 23, 2010 4:16:50 GMT -5
Even Teen Wolf is going FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUU
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2010 5:17:58 GMT -5
I've met intelligent Twilight fans, but there are plenty of stupid ones out there just like there are stupid fans of everything else on the planet.
But then, I don't at all mind Twilight butchering the standard mythos of vampires and werewolves - it's doing it badly and with very stupid changes that I look down on. Granted, the main problem is the writing, as well as the fact that this series is seriously convincing people that breaking into someone's room and watching them sleep is romantic.
Granted, Sting and the Police made that one happen first, but that's more just people not paying attention.
For the record, have come to like some of the original vampire traits more than the mainstream ones - prefer the thing with vampires only growing slightly weaker during the day and you having to drink their blood to be converted. Makes so much more sense.
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Post by Randy Barber 4-Life on Feb 24, 2010 3:10:25 GMT -5
I hope (and mostly think) the original complaint is fake, but whether it is or isn't, there are plenty of people like that around.
I blame the parents. No, seriously.
There are too many kids and teenagers whose parents don't spend much or any time with them just talking about STUFF. If young people spend all their time around friends their own age, they develop a group-think, and aren't exposed to nearly enough general knowledge dating earlier than their own first memory.
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Post by theryno665 on Feb 24, 2010 10:27:25 GMT -5
Actually, I know a few Twilight fans who are quite intelligent and think the rest of the fanbase sucks. I can't really comment on the intelligence of the Twilight fans I've met, as I'm not particularly close to any of them, but I've yet to meet a Twilight fan who wasn't pretty much just a regular person. The ones I've talked to don't even get pissy when I make jokes about sparkling vampires and pedophile werewolves. Which is really disappointing, given how people 'round here try to make Twilight fans out to be raving lunatics. When this is pretty much anyone thinks of when they think of the fanbase you're a part of, then its time to become a fan of something else.
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Post by YellowJacketY2J on Feb 24, 2010 10:31:45 GMT -5
I can't really comment on the intelligence of the Twilight fans I've met, as I'm not particularly close to any of them, but I've yet to meet a Twilight fan who wasn't pretty much just a regular person. The ones I've talked to don't even get pissy when I make jokes about sparkling vampires and pedophile werewolves. Which is really disappointing, given how people 'round here try to make Twilight fans out to be raving lunatics. When this is pretty much anyone thinks of when they think of the fanbase you're a part of, then its time to become a fan of something else. Don't forget, we wrestling fans have this:
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