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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Mar 28, 2010 11:42:29 GMT -5
the greatest story ever told was just dumb.
mars attacks gives me nightmares and has since i first saw it at age 7.
kingdom of the crystal skull was tedious and overblown.
wes craven's they. the only good part was the music video at the end.
species 2 was disgusting.
the pledge (jak nicholson) had a crap ending.
and i loved christmas story, btw.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Mar 28, 2010 12:00:27 GMT -5
Wow. We're really stretching the boundries of classic movie here aren't we.
Anyway's I'd say I just can't get into any of the Basil Rathbone Sherlock Holmes films, no matter how much I try. Actually I really can't understand or enjoy any British made film I've seen from the 30's-40's. Unless you count some of the James Wale horror stuff, but that might have been American crews.
I agree with whoever said that Citizen Kane is a great film to study but not a great film just to watch and enjoy.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Mar 28, 2010 12:02:02 GMT -5
the greatest story ever told was just dumb. mars attacks gives me nightmares and has since i first saw it at age 7. kingdom of the crystal skull was tedious and overblown. wes craven's they. the only good part was the music video at the end. species 2 was disgusting. the pledge (jak nicholson) had a crap ending. and i loved christmas story, btw. I would hardly consider any of those to be classics. |
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Post by Milkman Norm on Mar 28, 2010 12:07:48 GMT -5
The Greatest Story Ever Told would qualify. That about it though.
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Post by BlackHoleMark on Mar 28, 2010 12:08:31 GMT -5
I feel like a terrible person, but I found Schindler's List so incredibly boring.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Mar 28, 2010 12:24:54 GMT -5
Don't feel that way. You're judging a movie on it's merrits. You're not judging a horrific historical event. A movie about a real and very serious topic is still a movie and it should be judged the same way a light and fluffy script based movie would be.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Mar 28, 2010 14:50:30 GMT -5
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre:
This being a 1970's horror movie, I didn't watch it for the special effects, but for the atmosphere which I hoped was the focus of the movie, for the gritty aspect that make horror flicks from that time so special, and I was hoping for a decent plot and/or good characters. What I got was a boring, lazy mess with some of the blandest characters I never cared for (except Leatherface obviously, proving once again that a good monster doesn't automatically make a good horror story), a poor excuse of a plot with no surprise whatsoever and apparently the filmmakers' idea of tension and atmosphere is making a blonde bitch scream her guts out for half of the movie. Heck, I didn't find this the least bit creepy, with the exception of that one scene with the grandpa opening his mouth, but that's it.
Also, the title is completely false advertising. IIRC, only 3 (possibly 4) characters die so that's hardly a massacre, only ONE of them is killed with the titular chainsaw, which you may remember as the very reason people wanted to watch this movie in the first place and heck, we don't even see much of Texas for that matter. Texas Chainsaw Massacre? More like Countryside Meat Tenderizer Homicide.
But hey, it feels like they at least tried to make a good, entertaining movie, which is more than I can say for...
Cannibal Holocaust:
Oh dear God... I've seen many bad movies, I've seen Uwe Boll movies, I saw seen Bronx Warriors 2 and its ragdolls filmed in close-up, I saw the intensely stupid pseudo-sequel to Day of the Dead known as Contagium, I saw Scary Movie 3, I saw Zombie Stripper for crying out loud! And yet... none of these movies, no matter how awful, were nearly as bad as Cannibal Holocaust.
This is seriously the worst movie I've ever seen in my life. People told me it was a brilliant, intelligent movie that used very graphic imagery to convey a social message... BS.
This movie is the most arrogant, pretentious piece of garbage I ever had the displeasure to see. The story, while not bad on paper, is made a horrible mess thanks to the most stupid scenario I ever witnessed, the characters make absolutely moronic decisions (yay! Let's film ourselves breaking pretty much all laws on Human Rights, I'm sure there's no way this could come back to bite us in the ass later), this movie is filled not by plot holes, but plot canyons (why on Earth don't the cannibals kill those F'ers right away when they attack their village?!! WHY?! How does that make any sense for them to wait?!), the supposed "message" is conveyed in an over-the-top and obnoxious way making it come off as forced and hypocritical and in the end, it feels to me like it's just a collection of random clips of murder and rape with a pretentious and idiotic morale tacked on to make people believe it's deep, and somehow it worked.
Actually, that reminds me of those s****y modern art paintings which are just one color, or even left BLANK (and no, painting it white doesn't count as actually painting it) which are obviously terrible and made by highly self-important people, but since these people make up some pseudo-phylosophical inerpretation,, everyone says it's genius. It's the same thing with this movie; it's a nonsensical turd, but there's an half-assed so-called wisdom so people say it's great because they believe it makes them look witty.
Oh, and I haven't even mentioned the animal cruelty yet. I love how according to IMDB, Ruggero Deodato "expressed regrets" that they had to legitimately kill animals for these scenes. Are you f'n kidding me? You shoot a movie in which animals get killed and you don't even think of preparing animatronics? Okay, let's say for the sake of argument that the budget was so tight you couldn't afford them. Fine, I can believe that. In that case, why did you not simply cancel those scenes? You can say you express regrets as much as you want, you're still a hypocritical ass, mr. Deodato.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2010 15:00:49 GMT -5
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre:This being a 1970's horror movie, I didn't watch it for the special effects, but for the atmosphere which I hoped was the focus of the movie, for the gritty aspect that make horror flicks from that time so special, and I was hoping for a decent plot and/or good characters. What I got was a boring, lazy mess with some of the blandest characters I never cared for (except Leatherface obviously, proving once again that a good monster doesn't automatically make a good horror story), a poor excuse of a plot with no surprise whatsoever and apparently the filmmakers' idea of tension and atmosphere is making a blonde bitch scream her guts out for half of the movie. Heck, I didn't find this the least bit creepy, with the exception of that one scene with the grandpa opening his mouth, but that's it. Also, the title is completely false advertising. IIRC, only 3 (possibly 4) characters die so that's hardly a massacre, only ONE of them is killed with the titular chainsaw, which you may remember as the very reason people wanted to watch this movie in the first place and heck, we don't even see much of Texas for that matter. Texas Chainsaw Massacre? More like Countryside Meat Tenderizer Homicide The one thing I thought was interesting about the Texas Chainsaw Massacre was how it portrayed the countryside as this Jungle like area. Also, the "Massacre" part isn't the only misleading aspect: the whole "inspired by true events" isn't true. |
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Mar 28, 2010 15:19:38 GMT -5
Also, the "Massacre" part isn't the only misleading aspect: the whole "inspired by true events" isn't true. Well, actually this is debatable. Leatherface is based on the real-life killer Ed Gein, so it is indeed inspired by real events, and that's the wonderful power of nitpicking, as you can say something is inspired by a true story and it will always be true to some extent, as opposed to saying it's based on a true story. Also, I may be wrong, but I seem to remember that only the sequel was explicitly labeled as "inspired by/based on a true story" (IIRC, the advertising for the original implied it but didn't outright say it). |
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Post by Milkman Norm on Mar 28, 2010 15:57:36 GMT -5
Ed Gein is only known to have killed one person. Mostly he just dug up corpses.
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Post by Rorschach on Mar 28, 2010 16:21:03 GMT -5
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre:This being a 1970's horror movie, I didn't watch it for the special effects, but for the atmosphere which I hoped was the focus of the movie, for the gritty aspect that make horror flicks from that time so special, and I was hoping for a decent plot and/or good characters. What I got was a boring, lazy mess with some of the blandest characters I never cared for (except Leatherface obviously, proving once again that a good monster doesn't automatically make a good horror story), a poor excuse of a plot with no surprise whatsoever and apparently the filmmakers' idea of tension and atmosphere is making a blonde bitch scream her guts out for half of the movie. Heck, I didn't find this the least bit creepy, with the exception of that one scene with the grandpa opening his mouth, but that's it. Also, the title is completely false advertising. IIRC, only 3 (possibly 4) characters die so that's hardly a massacre, only ONE of them is killed with the titular chainsaw, which you may remember as the very reason people wanted to watch this movie in the first place and heck, we don't even see much of Texas for that matter. Texas Chainsaw Massacre? More like Countryside Meat Tenderizer Homicide The one thing I thought was interesting about the Texas Chainsaw Massacre was how it portrayed the countryside as this Jungle like area. Also, the "Massacre" part isn't the only misleading aspect: the whole "inspired by true events" isn't true. It's a better title than what Hooper had come up with originally: Headcheese. Also, I think as time goes on, people are going to have worse and worse of an opinion about this movie, because as an audience, we're more and more jaded when it comes to movies like this. You can say what you want about the production values, and the blood and gore levels and what have you...but the original TCM is very much a product of its time, and I still think it works for what it is. Is it going to hold up under intense scrutiny all these years later? Probably not. But I still think it's a damn fine film, and I will forever prefer it to the slicked up, over produced and hyper-grainy Platinum Dunes remakes. |
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Mar 30, 2010 3:27:29 GMT -5
Ed Gein is only known to have killed one person. Mostly he just dug up corpses. Two according to Wikipedia, and either way, even just one murder still makes him a killer, doesn't it? And Rorschach, I understand your point but as I said, I didn't go see it for the gore, the special effects and all that, but this movie has in my opinion a very poor scenario, a boring and lazy plot, zero atmosphere and is all in all just boring. I mean, Nightmare on Elm Street didn't have a much better production value, but it's still fun to watch. Heck, the technology at the time of Night of the Living Dead was even simpler, yet the movie is an amazing story that gives me the chills no matter how bad its zombies look. |
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Mar 30, 2010 10:14:31 GMT -5
I had to study Psycho in film class, and most of the time I was struggling to hold in laughter, not because of the endless parodies I've seen, just watching the movie, especially the 2nd murder, where the guy's stabbed in the head through his skull in 1 blow leaving a perfect rectangle of blood, bounces down the stairs backwards in a standing position before falling over.
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Post by theryno665 on Mar 30, 2010 10:20:35 GMT -5
Even though it's one of my favorite movies, it took me two or three times to watch Seven Samurai for the first time because I kept falling asleep.
I think it was on the Special Features of the DVD or something but I remember Deodato claiming that the animal killings were "filmed behind his back" by the assistant director. I immediately called BS on that because then how did they make it into the final movie? Did he have zero control in the editing process?
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Mar 30, 2010 10:50:10 GMT -5
I think it was on the Special Features of the DVD or something but I remember Deodato claiming that the animal killings were "filmed behind his back" by the assistant director. I immediately called BS on that because then how did they make it into the final movie? Did he have zero control in the editing process? And even if that was true, it would only mean he's a bafflingly bad director if he doesn't notice HIS ENTIRE CREW shooting scenes and is apparently away or somehow not paying attention long enough to shoot several scenes (not to mention they had to be redone several times), and then, he STILL doesn't notice there's footage he didn't shoot on his tapes, and then he apparently blinks through those entire scenes when watching the finished product before getting it released. |
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Post by Goldenbane on Mar 30, 2010 14:12:01 GMT -5
Citizen Kane: I guess I'm just not mature enough for this movie, despite being almost 30 years old. I understand that there are lots of editing, special shots, and acting that this movie did first...but having grown up with a billion movies that have "copied/ripped off/been inspired by" that stuff, it isn't as special to me as it would have been had I grown up in the time when this movie first came out. It's just not a film for me.
The Mummy: sometimes I think this is the first SWERVE! movie in history. Boris Karloff is the mummy (as in the undead...wrapped in cloths mummy) for what...4 seconds at most? The rest of the time he seems to just be a normal man who dresses kinda goofy and seems to possess magic powers. I'd seen so many action figures, parodys, and tributes to the mummy...that by the time I got to see the actual film itself, I was utterly disappointed.
Ferris Buller's Day Off: Unfunny, stupid, boring, and completely undeserving of all the praise the fanboys pile on top of it. Maybe it's just another example of a movie that doesn't cater to my tastes, but I just don't think it's that great.
Dog Day Afternoon: Now, I admit, I'd read the MAD Magazine parody before I saw this...so I definately thought there'd be more comedy gold in it (MAD's parody of this was probably one of the funniest I've ever read). However, the actual movie itself is boring and stupid and barely makes any sense at all. If some Hollywood goof decides to remake it, they should just go the MAD Magazine route instead.
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Post by darthalexander on Mar 30, 2010 14:18:32 GMT -5
It's not that it's a bad movie, but I never really cared for The Exorcist. I was told how "TERRIFYING!!!" it was, so I rented it and all I could think of was "meh". It wasn't that great of a film. I feel the same way about Rosemary's Baby. They aren't bad movies, but I never really got into them.
I'm not sure Godfather 3 would qualify as a "classic", but I hated it. An absolute insult to the first two Godfather films.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Mar 30, 2010 15:12:25 GMT -5
Most movies that are too up their own ass, really. You know those ones that are "too good" to have clear plot lines. Although directors like Orson Welles and Stanley Kubrick can have fun with complex stories and still usually make them so they can be enjoyed at multiple levels, far too many filmmakers just fall flat.
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Post by sloride on Mar 30, 2010 17:19:59 GMT -5
Alien. I just found it so god damn dull. Tried watching it but turned it off half way through as I was so bored.
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Post by darthalexander on Mar 31, 2010 12:23:49 GMT -5
Alien. I just found it so god damn dull. Tried watching it but turned it off half way through as I was so bored. Some day you should give it another shot. Some movies need that. I remember hating Blade Runner when I was a kid, but I tried it again years later and now I love it and it's in my top ten list of favorite films. Give it time, and try it again. You may end up actually loving it (or still hating it). |
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