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Post by Red Impact on Apr 22, 2010 9:36:06 GMT -5
It's a summer blockbuster released in December, just like Titanic was. It's stunningly fantastic, no one makes a movie as pretty as James Cameron. Story-wise, it's about as weak as most summer blockbuster movies (extremely heavy-handed and paint-by-numbers). For the visuals I think it's work checking out, but I wouldn't expect a strong story if you're seeing it for the first time.
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Post by 4real on Apr 22, 2010 11:19:10 GMT -5
It was good yes but if it wasn't hyped to oblivion it would be one of those films you would forget about pretty easily. Obviously needless to say but it didn't deserve an Oscar Nomination and imo it dragged on for way too long. Towards the end the film gets pretty good but I won't be buying it on DVD theres so many more films I enjoyed last year.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2010 11:22:19 GMT -5
Hyuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge yay.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 22, 2010 12:02:57 GMT -5
Never got around to it. I'll give it a watch on dvd and see what I think.
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Post by chazraps on Apr 22, 2010 12:28:13 GMT -5
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Post by JRX on Apr 22, 2010 13:22:19 GMT -5
Way better movies released last year. Avatar was pretty but didn't have much else.
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Post by shadowforce420 on Apr 22, 2010 18:30:37 GMT -5
I saw it for the first time today and enjoyed it alot more than I thought I would. I didn't really have much to complain about.
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Post by JDviant on Apr 22, 2010 18:40:01 GMT -5
Its fun, and good for what it is. I really enjoyed it.
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Post by Real Folk Bruce on Apr 22, 2010 18:40:04 GMT -5
I f***ing hated it. Bad acting, overly-artificial looking effects, an empty cliche-driven story, and the most obnoxious ham-fisted preaching you could ever imagine. Boy am I glad someone else paid for my ticket.
It's pretty sad that the guy that made this clunker was the same guy that directed Terminator 2 and wrote Strange Days.
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Post by lildude8218 on Apr 22, 2010 18:41:06 GMT -5
It's not their best album. I would go with Rubber Soul or Revolver instead.
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Post by Perd on Apr 22, 2010 18:45:06 GMT -5
Wasn't my cup of tea, but the visuals were stunning.
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Post by RedSmile on Apr 22, 2010 19:33:35 GMT -5
I thought it was very pretty, but very mediocre.
And I never got the "Anti-American" vibe from it, but it did draw some parallels
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Post by twiggy101 on Apr 22, 2010 22:58:21 GMT -5
There's a guy in there who looks like Mankind.
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Post by BorneAgain on Apr 22, 2010 23:00:47 GMT -5
A very reluctant nay.
For the visuals its worth seeing, but given how incredibly atmospheric it is, and how incredibly stunning the effects are, it just makes the story and character flaws all the more disappointing.
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Post by rrm15 on Apr 23, 2010 11:08:58 GMT -5
You know what I've noticed about Avatar? (And I was thinking of making this a thread itself but I think it fits here.)
James Cameron somehow made a movie that damn near everyone in the world SAW, but not that many people LIKED it. I mean, look at the responses in this thread. Even a lot of the people saying yay don't seem that enthused about it.
Its weird, and possibly a reflection of what people are saying about the effects vs. the story. Its a must see based on visuals, but past that it doesn't really linger.
In 25 years when there will be more movies with the same (or hell, even better) technological acheivements, will Avatar really hold up as still being that good?
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Post by chazraps on Apr 23, 2010 11:41:02 GMT -5
You know what I've noticed about Avatar? (And I was thinking of making this a thread itself but I think it fits here.) James Cameron somehow made a movie that damn near everyone in the world SAW, but not that many people LIKED it. I mean, look at the responses in this thread. Even a lot of the people saying yay don't seem that enthused about it. Its weird, and possibly a reflection of what people are saying about the effects vs. the story. Its a must see based on visuals, but past that it doesn't really linger. In 25 years when there will be more movies with the same (or hell, even better) technological acheivements, will Avatar really hold up as still being that good? Not to Bischoff this thread, but it is a pretty beloved film. You don't become the highest grossing movie of all time making something only a vocal minority likes.
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Post by Red Impact on Apr 23, 2010 12:03:10 GMT -5
You know what I've noticed about Avatar? (And I was thinking of making this a thread itself but I think it fits here.) James Cameron somehow made a movie that damn near everyone in the world SAW, but not that many people LIKED it. I mean, look at the responses in this thread. Even a lot of the people saying yay don't seem that enthused about it. Its weird, and possibly a reflection of what people are saying about the effects vs. the story. Its a must see based on visuals, but past that it doesn't really linger. In 25 years when there will be more movies with the same (or hell, even better) technological acheivements, will Avatar really hold up as still being that good? Not to Bischoff this thread, but it is a pretty beloved film. You don't become the highest grossing movie of all time making something only a vocal minority likes. I'm not going to argue that a lot of people don't like it, they do, but there's a lot more to making money than that. This had an advantage held by Cameron's other "greatest grossing film of all time," he made a summer blockbuster movie and released it off-season when there were no other summer blockbusters to compete with. As such, it drew in blockbuster numbers without all the competition that comes from it. That had a big influence on gross as well (not to mention increase cost of 3D tickets). That doesn't mean that most of the people who saw it didn't like it, mind you. I believe they did. Just that business know-how and customer satisfaction aren't a 1 to 1 correlation.
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Post by AriadosMan on Apr 23, 2010 12:23:02 GMT -5
Um, it outsold the Blu-Ray of The Dark Knight. Obviously lots of people who saw it did indeed enjoy it, since it got an A rating Cinemascore.
I really don't get the "no competition: thing, it was released against friggin' Sherlock Holmes and Alvin and the Chipmunks, both of which could have been summer releases. And even with the 3-D increase costs taken into account, it outsold everything released in the pst ten years.
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Post by Red Impact on Apr 23, 2010 12:38:12 GMT -5
I really don't get the "no competition: thing, it was released against friggin' Sherlock Holmes and Alvin and the Chipmunks, both of which could have been summer releases. And even with the 3-D increase costs taken into account, it outsold everything released in the pst ten years. And it was not released along with Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince, Up and Star Trek, or even surprise sleepers like The Hangover and G-Force, all of which were summer movies. Yeah, there was Sherlock Holmes, but then what? The next significant release was Book of Eli, which was 4 weeks later, if I recall correctly. The entire month of January was set up perfectly for long theater runs if a movie could build momentum. You release that movie in June and you deal with Transformers 2, the number 2 movie of the year. A few weeks later, Harry Potter 6, then G-Force (which fills in for Alvin in this scenario as the kid movie with talking rodents that did better than expected), G.I. Joe, then District 9, then Inglorious Basterds. Simply put, the reason not releasing in summer is considered a good business move is because you can't go 2 weeks without the next big blockbuster coming out. Movies released in winter, when everyone is back in school and competition is sparse during the weeks, have more time between anticipated movies. That's not a knock on Cameron, it's a kudos for the brilliant marketing decision. It worked with Titanic (which faced Tomorrow Never Dies) and it worked here.
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Post by AriadosMan on Apr 23, 2010 12:45:39 GMT -5
Then either the winter season is undersaturated or the summer is oversaturated, but movies can break out in summer as they could in winter (Dark Knight).
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