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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Mar 16, 2010 14:13:51 GMT -5
P.S. i love hearing when tna's ratings are low You realize probably the quickest way to get WWE out of its mediocrity would be legit competition, right? And if TNA was say, at a 3.2 right now and RAW at a 3.4 I'm betting they'd be putting out the best shows they possibly could trying to beat them because they were so close, and RAW doing the same trying to counter it. So to say that you are HAPPY when TNA's ratings are low is kinda stupid. To say you don't care about it enough to watch it, okay, fair enough, but any wrestling fan should really hope TNA finds an audience, even if it's not you, is a success, and makes WWE pull itself out of this horrible slump they've found themselves in. What if we don't think WWE is in a slump and pretty much enjoy RAW? We don't care what rating TNA gets. "The Slump" is only your opinion not fact. Just like my opinion that RAW is on a roll right now. Not absolute fact either.
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Post by josh on Mar 16, 2010 14:34:06 GMT -5
You realize probably the quickest way to get WWE out of its mediocrity would be legit competition, right? And if TNA was say, at a 3.2 right now and RAW at a 3.4 I'm betting they'd be putting out the best shows they possibly could trying to beat them because they were so close, and RAW doing the same trying to counter it. So to say that you are HAPPY when TNA's ratings are low is kinda stupid. To say you don't care about it enough to watch it, okay, fair enough, but any wrestling fan should really hope TNA finds an audience, even if it's not you, is a success, and makes WWE pull itself out of this horrible slump they've found themselves in. What if we don't think WWE is in a slump and pretty much enjoy RAW? We don't care what rating TNA gets. "The Slump" is only your opinion not fact. Just like my opinion that RAW is on a roll right now. Not absolute fact either. Well then you've completely contradicted what the argument was about in the first place if you "don't care what rating TNA gets". The whole reason of me saying that was him saying it made him happy to hear that TNA got low ratings. What sense does that make?
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Mar 16, 2010 14:41:46 GMT -5
The TNA fans are excited because it represents TNA trying to restart the Monday Night War. And that's great, because I'd love for TNA to be a real competitor to WWE.
The WWE fans aren't mentioning it because TNA's making virtually no difference.
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Post by Natalya's Ass Fanboy on Mar 16, 2010 15:09:18 GMT -5
I'm sure close to 100% of the WWE's fanbase know of TNA's existence, they just choose to stick with what they've known for years and what they're loyal to -- WWE.
RAW was o.k. last night. They brought out the big guns for the Wrestlemania build-up and I expect the ratings to be even more lop-sided than last week. Still, I see TNA slowly gaining viewers post-Wrestlemania, once RAW is back to the same ol', same ol'.
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Post by slickster on Mar 16, 2010 15:27:35 GMT -5
I don't think WWE will be falling into any 'same ol', same ol'' this year. Look at the facts:
Shawn Michaels is reportedly taking time off after WM. The Undertaker is reportedly taking time off after WM. Triple H is reportedly taking time off after WM. Rey Mysterio is reportedly taking time off this summer due to his knees. Chris Jericho is reportedly taking time off this summer to tour with Fozzy.
With all these veteran main eventers out of the picture, WWE is going to be forced to use more of their younger guys like Sheamus, John Morrison, CM Punk, The Miz, and Drew McIntyre in the upper card to build for the future. I think the influx of new faces into the main event will keep fans interested and draw in new fans looking for something different.
If TNA had moved to Mondays one year ago I think it would be a different story given the stagnant main event scene of 2009. However, I don't think that's the case this year.
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Post by Orange on Mar 16, 2010 15:31:27 GMT -5
I don't think WWE will be falling into any 'same ol', same ol'' this year. Look at the facts: Shawn Michaels is reportedly taking time off after WM. The Undertaker is reportedly taking time off after WM. Triple H is reportedly taking time off after WM. Rey Mysterio is reportedly taking time off this summer due to his knees. Chris Jericho is reportedly taking time off this summer to tour with Fozzy. With all these veteran main eventers out of the picture, WWE is going to be forced to use more of their younger guys like Sheamus, John Morrison, CM Punk, The Miz, and Drew McIntyre in the upper card to build for the future. I think the influx of new faces into the main event will keep fans interested and draw in new fans looking for something different. If TNA had moved to Mondays one year ago I think it would be a different story given the stagnant main event scene of 2009. However, I don't think that's the case this year. So, with TNA pushing young guys (I know the older guys are there, but the young guns are getting pushed too) it could make for some very interesting head to head TV. It'll pretty much just become what young guys do you prefer more, and hopefully it'll bring out the best in both companies.
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Post by celticjobber on Mar 16, 2010 17:29:28 GMT -5
You realize probably the quickest way to get WWE out of its mediocrity would be legit competition, right? What if we don't think WWE is in a slump and pretty much enjoy RAW? ... "The Slump" is only your opinion not fact. Just like my opinion that RAW is on a roll right now. Not absolute fact either. Actually, it is a fact. On last night's Wrestling Observer Live show, Meltzer said WWE is drawing very well at recent house shows, almost on the same level they were at their peak in 2000 and 2001. So business is booming right now. And Raw is still constantly either the top or close to the top-rated show on USA. Its absurd that some TNA diehards act like WWE is on its deathbed, when that couldn't be farther from the truth.
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Post by hassanchop on Mar 16, 2010 17:30:23 GMT -5
There was a war?
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Post by Mayonnaise on Mar 16, 2010 19:04:15 GMT -5
I don't think WWE will be falling into any 'same ol', same ol'' this year. Look at the facts: Shawn Michaels is reportedly taking time off after WM. The Undertaker is reportedly taking time off after WM. Triple H is reportedly taking time off after WM. Rey Mysterio is reportedly taking time off this summer due to his knees. Chris Jericho is reportedly taking time off this summer to tour with Fozzy. Other than Trips and Jericho taking time off, what's different?
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Post by Alex Shelley on Mar 16, 2010 22:50:02 GMT -5
I want TNA to succeed. I want them to get great ratings and do well. I want them to be legit competition.
But I know they won't be. At least not for a few years.
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Post by josh on Mar 17, 2010 2:06:37 GMT -5
What if we don't think WWE is in a slump and pretty much enjoy RAW? ... "The Slump" is only your opinion not fact. Just like my opinion that RAW is on a roll right now. Not absolute fact either. Actually, it is a fact. On last night's Wrestling Observer Live show, Meltzer said WWE is drawing very well at recent house shows, almost on the same level they were at their peak in 2000 and 2001. So business is booming right now. And Raw is still constantly either the top or close to the top-rated show on USA. Its absurd that some TNA diehards act like WWE is on its deathbed, when that couldn't be farther from the truth. I wasn't talking about a business slump, but a creative one. Mainly the end of the PG era(or PG era as we know it) is what I'm hoping for. Not as much blood or sexual stuff is fine, but they've basically stripped most characters of any dymanics and feuds are unnecessarily thin(except WM time, of course). RAW is usually a circus of guest hosts, Hornswoggle(not so much anymore) and whatever other goofy segments they can throw out there for "entertainment". I just want top quality shows on my TV...I'm not saying WWE is on its deathbed though...nowhere near it actually.
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Post by Free Hat on Mar 17, 2010 2:29:20 GMT -5
I can't say I'm too interested. I gave TNA a shot for the first time in three years last week, and they blew it by putting on a really awful show that made WWE's mediocre effort look good by comparison. It reminds me of the dying days of WCW without the unintentional comedy.
I'm not gonna lie, if last week's show was really the best they can do, then I want them to fail miserably. But that isn't to say that I don't want to see legit competition for WWE. I haven't been a WWE fan for long time and I would love to see someone give them a kick in the ass. Unfortunately, TNA is not the company to do it.
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Post by celticjobber on Mar 17, 2010 2:46:10 GMT -5
Actually, it is a fact. On last night's Wrestling Observer Live show, Meltzer said WWE is drawing very well at recent house shows, almost on the same level they were at their peak in 2000 and 2001. So business is booming right now. And Raw is still constantly either the top or close to the top-rated show on USA. Its absurd that some TNA diehards act like WWE is on its deathbed, when that couldn't be farther from the truth. I wasn't talking about a business slump, but a creative one. Mainly the end of the PG era(or PG era as we know it) is what I'm hoping for. Not as much blood or sexual stuff is fine, but they've basically stripped most characters of any dymanics and feuds are unnecessarily thin(except WM time, of course). RAW is usually a circus of guest hosts, Hornswoggle(not so much anymore) and whatever other goofy segments they can throw out there for "entertainment". I just want top quality shows on my TV...I'm not saying WWE is on its deathbed though...nowhere near it actually. I heard that WWE's contract with Mattel is one of the main reasons they've went so PG (aside from Linda's Senate campaign). But personally, I think alot of the complaints about going PG are overblown. WWF was PG in the 80's and early 90's and that's one of my favorite times for the company. And as much as I miss it (as an old-school ECW fan), it's probably a great idea to cut out blood and chairshots to the head in this day & age. IMO, their shows have mostly been good/great with a few exceptions in the past several weeks. Hopefully they keep it up after Mania.
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Post by Kris Kobain on Mar 17, 2010 4:14:01 GMT -5
It's nice to have something to watch if Raw is boring. I haven't watched either as of late though.
"War what is it good for? absloutly nothing."
Because it isn't going to fix the industry.
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