Renslayer
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Post by Renslayer on Jun 2, 2010 0:29:47 GMT -5
The Mets take game 2 in their new house of horrors, Petco Park, 4-2 over the Padres. The series is tied at 1 and tomorrow afternoon's matchup is Johan Santana vs. Clayton Richard. On the hitting side, Ike Davis went 2-4 with a HR. But, the second best player of the game was David Wright. Dubs went 3-4 with a HR, but also played excellent defense at 3rd. So far, his defense actually ranks below league average(-3.5 UZR, but 2 months is too small a sample), but he's played good defense overall this year.
The best player tonight however was Mike Pelfrey. Here's how he did tonight: 8 IP, 4 hits, 1 run, 2 BB, 8 Ks, 10 swinging strikes, 9:4 GB:FB ratio(They might be mistaking the flyballs here for lineouts. In the game, they said Pelfrey didn't record a single flyball out, but I'm splitting hairs), on 101 pitches, 72 of which were strikes. He probably should've pitched the 9th inning...
But K-Rod did. He only gave up one hard hit ball(to Eckstein of all people) but was still in trouble. He did give up a run, but that was due mainly to a gimpy Luis Castillo.* Despite that, he did K the next two batters to end the game.
* If you haven't seen the play, Luis hobbles to the ball, fields it, but loses control of the ball as he tries to throw to 1st. The man has been bothered by a bad foot and is moving worse than he usually does. He really needs to go on the DL to heal up, but I doubt it happens anytime soon.
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Post by ani on Jun 2, 2010 8:50:23 GMT -5
Dare I say Pelfrey is better then Santana? This guy is out of this world. Almost every start is AT LEAST 7 innings.
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Post by ani on Jun 2, 2010 13:17:39 GMT -5
Mock draft #3...mock harder:
1. Washington selects C Bryce Harper: Hitting about .999 these days, is it anyone other then him?
2. Pittsburgh selects SS Manny Machado: Pirates should really choose Tallion in my mind but they’ll go for the easier sign still.
3. Baltimore selects RHP Jameson Tallion: Orioles already have a nice young rotation and this would further cement it.
4. Kansas City selects LHP Drew Pomeranz: Pom has slid in some eyes but I don’t think he’ll go that far.
5. Cleveland selects LHP Chris Sale: Some see him as a great pitcher, others not so much. Stock is climbing and Indians want lefty.
6. Arizona selects RHP Karsten Whitson: I can’t see this prep arm falling far like some predict.
7. Mets selects RHP Deck McGuire: Would sign cheap? Check. #2-#3 potential? Check. Ready soon? Check. Sounds like a match made in heaven for the Metsies BUT...do not be surprised if Whitson falls here and Arizona gets Deck. I think Arizona is more willing to spend though perhaps but we’ll see.
8. Houston selects 3B Zack Cox: Houston needs a guy who can play second or third and Cox is the one. Could be able to play second too.
9. San Diego selects C Yasmani Grandal: Grandal falls a bit. SD could be a good place as they could use a true catcher and he profiles as more of a contact guy.
10. Oakland selects OF Bryce Brentz: Possible Nick Markakis clone would be a nice get for the college loving A’s.
11. Toronto selects OF Michael Choice: Some concerns have Choice slipping a bit but the Jays catch him before he falls too much.
12. Cincinatti selects RHP Alex Wimmers: Ohio State pitcher has been moving up lately. #3 potential and affordable so a perfect pick for the organization.
13. White Sox select RHP Matt Harvey: Project who has very good stuff. Patience is key. Stock continues to climb.
14. Milwaukee selects RHP Brandon Workman: Stock rising again after dropping a bit. Yet another pitcher taken. Will he be a closer or starter?
15. Texas selects RHP Asher Wojciechowski: Moving up rapidly. Could be this years Matt Hobgood
16. Cubs select RHP A.J. Cole: Seems like Cole is falling. I think the Cubs get a HUGE steal here. The Aaron Rodgers of the MLB?
17. Tampa Bay selects Josh Sale 3B/OF: Talented hitter will be too good for Rays to pass up
18. Angels selects SS Christian Colon: Colon falls to the Angels who hope to grow a SS for a change.
19. Houston select RHP Dylan Covey. Hasn’t impressed but potential is too good to slide further.
20. Boston selects RHP Anthony Ranuado: Risky but worth it for big market team like Boston.
21. Minnesota selects 3B/SS Nick Castellanos: Probably a third baseman. Good bat who will fall because of pitching available.
22. Texas selects RHP Stetson Allie: Risky but high potential here. Could be an Ace but could be a elite closer as well.
23. Florida selects SS Yordy Cabrera: Not consistent at points but a Florida product who will be an OF in the MLB.
24. San Francisco select 2B Kolbrin Vitek: Ball State 2B who is a bit of a ?
25. St. Louis select . P/3B: Kaleb Cowart: Talented pitcher could slide.
26. Colorado selects LHP Sammy Sollis: Rox have had success with pitching lately and Sollis seems a perfect spot for them here.
27. Philadelphia select RHP Brett Eibner: Good talent here for the later half of the round.O
28. Dodgers select OF Delino DeShields Jr.: Great athlete who goes to the organization his father played well in.
29.Angels select SS/C Justin O’Connor: Angels will develop a Catcher who plays at an all star level one day. O’Connor could do that with them.
30. Angels select RHP Jesse Hahn: Injury concerns but a steal here if healthy.
31. Tampa Bay select OOF Austin Wilson: He’s fallen but I think the Rays take a chance here.
32. Yankees select LHP James Paxton: Can’t shake this feeling the Yanks will overdraft him.
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Post by biafra on Jun 2, 2010 14:36:09 GMT -5
Braves sweep. 2.5 games up.
What has me the most optimistic is the fact that Lowe has had about 5 straight quality starts.
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Post by LONG ISLAND's OWN vinnypic on Jun 2, 2010 14:36:48 GMT -5
DLowe filthy through 8, Sandman slams the door. Enjoy it, Phillies!
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Post by Desi on Jun 2, 2010 15:06:55 GMT -5
Dare I say Pelfrey is better then Santana? This guy is out of this world. Almost every start is AT LEAST 7 innings. I don't know, Santana has been all he needs to be for the team but while I admit that Pelfrey is the most improved pitcher by far, the only difference between them is that Pelfrey gets the run support that Santana doesn't.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2010 15:12:35 GMT -5
So I just heard this on the Mike Francesa show that Ken Burns 'The 10th Inning' will be airing on PBS in 2 parts on September 28th and 29th.
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Post by Vampiro138 on Jun 2, 2010 15:39:38 GMT -5
David Kaplan is reporting that the Cubs are currently in talks with the Angels about a trade for Derrek Lee
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Jun 2, 2010 15:55:34 GMT -5
Braves sweep. 2.5 games up. What has me the most optimistic is the fact that Lowe has had about 5 straight quality starts. What has me most optimistic is the fact that we are in first place, the hottest team in the NL and we are doing that while all of our hitters still haven't got it together yet. As Chipper, Yunel and McLouth heat up we only can improve IMO.
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Post by Desi on Jun 2, 2010 16:01:58 GMT -5
David Kaplan is reporting that the Cubs are currently in talks with the Angels about a trade for Derrek Lee I'll die laughing if this trade happens. Unless they're getting someone on a Kendry Morales-level or the like, I can't comprehend why the Cubs would want to trade Lee.
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Jun 2, 2010 17:18:16 GMT -5
David Kaplan is reporting that the Cubs are currently in talks with the Angels about a trade for Derrek Lee I'll die laughing if this trade happens. Unless they're getting someone on a Kendry Morales-level or the like, I can't comprehend why the Cubs would want to trade Lee. Why not? He's old, in the last year of his contract, and this team blows. I say go for it.
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Post by Desi on Jun 2, 2010 17:21:35 GMT -5
I'll die laughing if this trade happens. Unless they're getting someone on a Kendry Morales-level or the like, I can't comprehend why the Cubs would want to trade Lee. Why not? He's old, in the last year of his contract, and this team blows. I say go for it. Depends if they manage to get something good for him in return. I don't know what the Angels have to offer that'll be worth the trade and I don't think Lee's one of those "Let's trade him because we can!~" kind of players. *Shrugs*
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Jun 2, 2010 17:29:49 GMT -5
Why not? He's old, in the last year of his contract, and this team blows. I say go for it. Depends if they manage to get something good for him in return. I don't know what the Angels have to offer that'll be worth the trade and I don't think Lee's one of those "Let's trade him because we can!~" kind of players. *Shrugs* Anything is better than letting him walk at the end of the year if they aren't interested in resigning him. Getting a couple of drafts picks who may or may not ever produce years down the line or getting whatever the Angels have to offer and not having Lee's contract on the books. Sounds alright to me. Then hopefully they can get rid of every other overpaid, underproducing bum on this team.
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Post by Vampiro138 on Jun 2, 2010 17:35:27 GMT -5
tonight's cub game Lee has been scratched from the line up for "tightness in his hamstring"
as for a Lee trade, maybe they are trying to shed some money, Dempster gave up 3 mil of his contract so we can sign nady this offseason. if worse comes to worse...you play Nady at first as i would much rather have him there then the outfield at this point just based off the fact Nady cant throw to the infield yet.
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Jun 2, 2010 17:54:34 GMT -5
tonight's cub game Lee has been scratched from the line up for "tightness in his hamstring" as for a Lee trade, maybe they are trying to shed some money, Dempster gave up 3 mil of his contract so we can sign nady this offseason. if worse comes to worse...you play Nady at first as i would much rather have him there then the outfield at this point just based off the fact Nady cant throw to the infield yet. Yeah, I'd be okay with Nady at First, if that gives Colvin more playing time in the outfield. Lee's Defense at First is a huge help with the shakyness on the other side of the infield, but does first base defense really matter when you're a sub-.500 team with a bunch of bad contracts and sucky chemistry?
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Renslayer
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Post by Renslayer on Jun 2, 2010 18:06:04 GMT -5
Depends if they manage to get something good for him in return. I don't know what the Angels have to offer that'll be worth the trade and I don't think Lee's one of those "Let's trade him because we can!~" kind of players. *Shrugs* Anything is better than letting him walk at the end of the year if they aren't interested in resigning him. Getting a couple of drafts picks who may or may not ever produce years down the line or getting whatever the Angels have to offer and not having Lee's contract on the books. Sounds alright to me. Then hopefully they can get rid of every other overpaid, underproducing bum on this team. I don't see why letting Lee walk and gaining two draft picks in return is a problem. You don't Hendry to do what Omar Minaya did last year, which was to trade a Type-A free agent(Billy Wagner) in order to save a few dollars. If the Angels don't offer a decent prospect for D-Lee, I think they'd be better served holding onto him.
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Jun 2, 2010 18:20:40 GMT -5
Anything is better than letting him walk at the end of the year if they aren't interested in resigning him. Getting a couple of drafts picks who may or may not ever produce years down the line or getting whatever the Angels have to offer and not having Lee's contract on the books. Sounds alright to me. Then hopefully they can get rid of every other overpaid, underproducing bum on this team. I don't see why letting Lee walk and gaining two draft picks in return is a problem. You don't Hendry to do what Omar Minaya did last year, which was to trade a Type-A free agent(Billy Wagner) in order to save a few dollars. If the Angels don't offer a decent prospect for D-Lee, I think they'd be better served holding onto him. It wouldn't be a BAD thing just to get picks. BUT more times than not, draft picks end up being busts. And busts that you don't find out about til YEARS after you pick them. I'd be alright with the Cubs getting an MLB reliever, a AAA Starter, and then whatever else for Lee at this point. I have nothing but disgusts for this entire team, and honestly wouldn't care to see all of these losers GONE, including the coaching staff and GM. The only Cubs I can even stand half the time are Dempster, Marmol, Marshall, Hill, Wells, Byrd, Colvin, and that's about it. All the rest either get your hopes up and crush them, or just never produce. I don't know why, but the last couple years (going back to the SECOND sweep in the first round) I've just gotten really sick of this current core of Cubs players. I've lived through worse Cubs teams, but those one's at least had guys I liked on them, rather than just a bunch of underachievers.
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Post by stealthamo on Jun 2, 2010 18:28:45 GMT -5
I only wish that Miguel wasn't the source for seemingly 80% of our offense. Still though, his homer puts the Tigers up 1-0.
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Post by H-Fist on Jun 2, 2010 18:32:28 GMT -5
Depends if they manage to get something good for him in return. I don't know what the Angels have to offer that'll be worth the trade and I don't think Lee's one of those "Let's trade him because we can!~" kind of players. *Shrugs* Anything is better than letting him walk at the end of the year if they aren't interested in resigning him. Getting a couple of drafts picks who may or may not ever produce years down the line or getting whatever the Angels have to offer and not having Lee's contract on the books. Sounds alright to me. Then hopefully they can get rid of every other overpaid, underproducing bum on this team. A move on Lee would be, more or less, the white flag on 2010. The League just seems too tough and too even and too unpredictable. The Cubs could be able to catch offensive fire in June, but it's starting to look like the overall makeup of the team might not allow it. Also, attendance is down by about 1,300 paid per game, and there are plenty of seats available. With falling revenue and a disappointing team, Jim Hendry will need to make a decision at some point in the next couple weeks. Now, Lee has been a big-time victim of bad luck so far this year, as well as a lack of protection with Ramirez behind him. I've broken the numbers down in previous pages. But his skills are also deteriorating with age, as is expected. The Cubs still owe him $8.5 million in salary this year. In terms of the Angels, there's nobody on their 40-man who's all that interesting. Their Low A affiliate, the Cedar Rapids Kernals, have quite a few promising young kids. SP Fabio Martinez is one of them. Another is CF Mike Trout. Generally, the Angels' best prospects are in the low minors and wouldn't be expected until 2012-2014. That would fit well into a carefully nurtured Cubs' rebuilding. -------------- If the Cubs decide to white flag, selling Lee off would be the best way to start. It would be an opportunity for Jim Hendry to set the market. Considering he would also be shopping Ted Lilly, Kosuke Fukudome, and a number of other players, getting Lee to waive his no-trade would be a big thing for other GMs looking to deal with Chicago.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2010 18:37:42 GMT -5
Canos small hitting steak extends to 16 games
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