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Post by Back to being Cenanuff on Mar 24, 2010 14:19:31 GMT -5
Ahem...
THE WWE IS f***ING WITH US
They know what they've got. They know how much we love him. They're not going to purposely piss us off by releasing him. They're just having some down home fun at our expense, and laughing their asses off while the IWC's collective head explodes.
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Post by jamielowndes {N} on Mar 24, 2010 14:23:52 GMT -5
I have to agree. I know he put up a good fight against Khali and Jericho, but he isnt just losing, theyre actively claiming he is 0-5. This reminds me of the whole "CM Punk paying his dues by jobbing to Holly" thing. FIngers crossed, it ends soon. Im not a huge Daniel Bryan mark, Ive never watched any of his ROH stuff, not through choice not to, but Ive only juts recently got back into pro wrestling, even though Im aware of him, might trail through youtube sometime, but I think the whole thing is starting to become screwy.
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Post by FailedGimmick on Mar 24, 2010 14:28:43 GMT -5
He's been booked to look like gold despite the 0-5 record.
Lost to world champion Chris Jericho.
Lost to Wade Barrett, who focused on the injured ribs be sustained in the match against Jericho.
Lost a tag match, but Miz was the one pinned.
Lost to former World Champion Great Khali, but did manage to knock the big man off his feet.
Lost in Tag match due to partner's incompetence.
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Mar 24, 2010 14:30:40 GMT -5
This is ridiculous.
It's a storyline.. Miz dislikes him so he keeps putting him in bad situations. The end of the feud will be Miz tapping out to Daniel Bryan who becomes the new United States Champion.. Cole will have to eats his words and Bryan will have paid his dues and won respect from the locker room.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Mar 24, 2010 14:31:24 GMT -5
people didn't realize that from the first episode?
Also, I noticed Cole toned it down on the Bryan Daniel Hate.
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Post by kingbookermark on Mar 24, 2010 14:31:41 GMT -5
I am not an original Brian Danielson mark but one of my buds showed me all his stuff from ROH and Japan. While I do agree they are messing with us, I think overall NXT is a poorly thought out show because they are not giving their talent longer then five minutes for the most part to show their abilities. It's really weak, and there's no sense of real superstar building by the pros. No advice giving, no pushing, no real arguments. The show is boring but that's more for another post.
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Post by jamielowndes {N} on Mar 24, 2010 14:34:28 GMT -5
He's been booked to look like gold despite the 0-5 record. Lost to world champion Chris Jericho. Lost to Wade Barrett, who focused on the injured ribs be sustained in the match against Jericho. Lost a tag match, but Miz was the one pinned. Lost to former World Champion Great Khali, but did manage to knock the big man off his feet. Lost in Tag match due to partner's incompetence. I suppose when you look at it that way, its almost as if theyre building him up but pissing with the IWC just because they can. I think he isnt going to win NXT, because on some degree they know they can use NXT to build someone else to stardom. I predict Barrett. Bryan goes straight into a US title feud IMO. Although I think he may need to put some weight on, according to WWE.com, last time I checked he was 190, not inspiring, get him up to about 220 (CM Punk's weight). I know "the look" has become less of a necessity recently, but he's 15 lbs heavier than Rey Mysterio, unless they play him up as a straight up submission machine. After all, skill trumps size. |
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Post by randomranter on Mar 24, 2010 14:35:21 GMT -5
This is ridiculous. It's a storyline.. Miz dislikes him so he keeps putting him in bad situations. The end of the feud will be Miz tapping out to Daniel Bryan who becomes the new United States Champion.. Cole will have to eats his words and Bryan will have paid his dues and won respect from the locker room. Then explain why Michael Cole, who is normally a face announcer, is going out of his way to bury the guy every chance he gets. And it's not that he's just inexplicably switching to "heel announcer" role for Bryan's matches, it's like he's got something personal against the guy. He's actively and blatantly giving the fans reasons NOT to care about him. I think there's more to it than the typical "Guy who keeps losing" storyline -- a storyline which, by the way, has never worked. Casual fans don't analyze things like we do here. All they see is "guy who keeps losing", which automatically translates into "piss break." |
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Mar 24, 2010 14:37:28 GMT -5
This is ridiculous. It's a storyline.. Miz dislikes him so he keeps putting him in bad situations. The end of the feud will be Miz tapping out to Daniel Bryan who becomes the new United States Champion.. Cole will have to eats his words and Bryan will have paid his dues and won respect from the locker room. Then explain why Michael Cole, who is normally a face announcer, is going out of his way to bury the guy every chance he gets. And it's not that he's just inexplicably switching to "heel announcer" role for Bryan's matches, it's like he's got something personal against the guy. He's actively and blatantly giving the fans reasons NOT to care about him. I think there's more to it than the typical "Guy who keeps losing" storyline -- a storyline which, by the way, has never worked. Didn't it work for MVP before he left Smackdown? I remember DDP being homeless and losing every match before being the People's champion. Didn't Tommy Dreamer lose pretty much every high profile match he was in? just wondeirng, did Jerry Lynn ever beat RVD? |
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Mar 24, 2010 14:37:43 GMT -5
This is ridiculous. It's a storyline.. Miz dislikes him so he keeps putting him in bad situations. The end of the feud will be Miz tapping out to Daniel Bryan who becomes the new United States Champion.. Cole will have to eats his words and Bryan will have paid his dues and won respect from the locker room. Then explain why Michael Cole, who is normally a face announcer, is going out of his way to bury the guy every chance he gets. And it's not that he's just inexplicably switching to "heel announcer" role for Bryan's matches, it's like he's got something personal against the guy. He's actively and blatantly giving the fans reasons NOT to care about him. I think there's more to it than the typical "Guy who keeps losing" storyline -- a storyline which, by the way, has never worked. Because Cole is the 'face of WWE', he's in the little WWE bubble. Every remark he makes to 'bury' Daniel Bryan makes him look like an idiot. "Daniel Bryan goes to bed at 8pm!" .. he's coming across as petty and that's the idea. Josh Mathews is sat next to Cole, defending Bryan every week and shooting Cole's comments down easily. |
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Mar 24, 2010 14:43:27 GMT -5
This is ridiculous. It's a storyline.. Miz dislikes him so he keeps putting him in bad situations. The end of the feud will be Miz tapping out to Daniel Bryan who becomes the new United States Champion.. Cole will have to eats his words and Bryan will have paid his dues and won respect from the locker room. Then explain why Michael Cole, who is normally a face announcer, is going out of his way to bury the guy every chance he gets. And it's not that he's just inexplicably switching to "heel announcer" role for Bryan's matches, it's like he's got something personal against the guy. He's actively and blatantly giving the fans reasons NOT to care about him. I think there's more to it than the typical "Guy who keeps losing" storyline -- a storyline which, by the way, has never worked. Casual fans don't analyze things like we do here. All they see is "guy who keeps losing", which automatically translates into "piss break." Michael Cole is siding with Miz, Miz is a heel. The casual fan isn't supposed to identify with the heel (well there's Orton, but that's a whole other story). If people can't see "Miz is making these matches because he hates his rookie", which is you know...the storyline and something that Josh Matthews keeps harping over and over, then maybe they need to get their brain checked. |
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Post by Miz-Wannabe on Mar 24, 2010 14:45:38 GMT -5
It's the FINAL COUNTDOWN!
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Mar 24, 2010 14:51:11 GMT -5
people didn't realize that from the first episode? Also, I noticed Cole toned it down on the Bryan Daniel Hate. i didn't last nights episode, but episode four he brought the hate back: Week 1: Daniel Bryan is Satan himself Week 2: Daniel Bryan may be a good wrestler BUT he has an overinflated ego and needs to learn respect Week 3: "I've got to commend Daniel Bryan for sticking up to The Miz like that." - Michael Cole Week 4: see week one |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2010 14:57:11 GMT -5
people didn't realize that from the first episode? Also, I noticed Cole toned it down on the Bryan Daniel Hate. i didn't last nights episode, but episode four he brought the hate back: Week 1: Daniel Bryan is Satan himself Week 2: Daniel Bryan may be a good wrestler BUT he has an overinflated ego and needs to learn respect Week 3: "I've got to commend Daniel Bryan for sticking up to The Miz like that." - Michael Cole Week 4: see week one last night we just got constant jabbering by Cole about Bryan's 0-4 record and how he is only used to wrestling in high school gyms |
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Post by randomranter on Mar 24, 2010 15:03:48 GMT -5
Didn't it work for MVP before he left Smackdown? I remember DDP being homeless and losing every match before being the People's champion. Didn't Tommy Dreamer lose pretty much every high profile match he was in? just wondeirng, did Jerry Lynn ever beat RVD? Keep in mind that Dreamer, DDP, and even Jerry Lynn were relatively established names before they went into those storylines. (which, by the way, didn't really work all that well -- MVP became a JTTS for a while and was getting near-Conway pops, Jerry Lynn never really made it big in the WWE, and DDP made his name off of Savage, the NWO, etc.) Bryan is not an established star. His indy run means absolutely nothing to the casual fan, most of which probably never heard of him. You don't get a brand new guy who hasn't made a name for himself yet over by giving fans reasons NOT to care about him. |
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Post by randomranter on Mar 24, 2010 15:12:45 GMT -5
I'll play a bit of devil's advocate here.
People believe that the way Bryan is being booked is fine because it will ultimately lead to him getting a win over Miz, or even winning the US title.
But what if it doesn't? What if this really isn't leading anywhere and he gets basically the same treatment as the others? What if there is a match between himself and Miz and Miz is the one that ends up winning?
Will you still defend the booking?
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Mar 24, 2010 15:31:06 GMT -5
I'll play a bit of devil's advocate here. People believe that the way Bryan is being booked is fine because it will ultimately lead to him getting a win over Miz, or even winning the US title. But what if it doesn't? What if this really isn't leading anywhere and he gets basically the same treatment as the others? What if there is a match between himself and Miz and Miz is the one that ends up winning? Will you still defend the booking? Depends if he loses a close match due to cheating or whether he gets squashed clean. The IWC isn't as important as many seem to think, Vince and company will know how good Daniel Bryan is and are not going to throw it down the drain just to annoy a very small amount of their fans. Bryan went to FCW to tune up when WWE wanted to put him straight on TV, I imagine that has bought him many kudos points with the higher ups. People like Jericho and Regal will be behind him succeeding, I'd be willing to bet a lot on that. Personally, I think people are looking way too much into this and he'll be fine. If he's future endevoured after a loss to Santino on Superstars in August then i'll put my hands up and admit I was wrong. |
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Post by MGH on Mar 24, 2010 15:34:08 GMT -5
I think this is clearly going to lead to something where Bryan is going to be voted out, and he goads Miz in to giving him a shot at the US Title right then and there. He can't be fired if he's a Champion. He'll beat Miz, and that's that. I don't see how it doesn't end that way.
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Post by Azrael from Outerspace on Mar 24, 2010 17:19:43 GMT -5
It's just WWE's stock underdog story with a few tweaks. He's lost all his matches, there is a vote next week. W/L's aren't the be all end all so Bryan will pass JUST on potential, but he will realize it's win or go home. He will then start winning and making people tap (bringing out a few new submissions). Everyone will be happy and even Scrooge McCole will respect him. The only one who won't is the Miz which will lead to some matches and eventually a contract.
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Post by Kevin's Thorn on Mar 24, 2010 17:28:13 GMT -5
people didn't realize that from the first episode? Also, I noticed Cole toned it down on the Bryan Daniel Hate. Not really. He still mentioned that the indy circuits Bryan wrestled in where all 'dirty high school gyms' that couldn't compare to the WWE. |
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