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Post by Janitor From Mars on Mar 9, 2010 2:42:20 GMT -5
It won't. He'll come in, doing it for the paycheck and the easy schedule, and he'll have the same match with each guy he faces. Jaded much? Seriously, he's Rob Van Dam and I'm sure he doesn't care what people on the internet think about him, especially if it's negative. I'm just hoping for more Van-Terminators and less WWE safe style wrestling.
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Post by donners on Mar 9, 2010 3:23:57 GMT -5
He has said explicitly that he would choose TNA for the schedule, and money is obviously a factor.
I have never, ever liked him in the ring or as a character, but if he can bring in enough viewers to justify the time and money, good luck to him.
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Mar 9, 2010 3:46:33 GMT -5
RVD is the most overrated wrestler ever, Jeff edges him out by a tad, but yes, RVD is overrated. And I was far from impressed with his debut. Have him beat Sting in under a minute, and have Sting beat the bejesus out of him, and then be overshadowed by Hogan? Good lord, Orlando Jordan had a better debut than that.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Mar 9, 2010 3:52:45 GMT -5
I can't stand how people always overlook the fact that RVD always brings out the best in his opponents, and that people love wrestling him. Edge, Randy Orton, and Eddie Guerrero all credited RVD with giving them some of the best matches of their careers. A crappy wrestler couldn't do that.
Also, Van Dam is up there with Shawn Michaels and Curt Hennig as one of the best sellers of all time.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Mar 9, 2010 4:27:50 GMT -5
RVD is the most overrated wrestler ever, Jeff edges him out by a tad, but yes, RVD is overrated. And I was far from impressed with his debut. Have him beat Sting in under a minute, and have Sting beat the bejesus out of him, and then be overshadowed by Hogan? Good lord, Orlando Jordan had a better debut than that. at least OJ got to dance to the ring.......
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Mar 9, 2010 6:18:35 GMT -5
1: I fixed your slight spelling error; I'm just that way. 2: Held him down? Could have been the top guy? Excuse the f*** outta me? You're kidding right? You have to be. So you're saying that WWE didn't give him BOTH the WWE and ECW Championships? They gave him the ball, and he f***ing dropped it. It's entirely his own fault. He f***ed up. Nobody held him down and made him have the "controlled substances". Nobody did that to himself, but himself. Oh please. He had a little pot, hardly a big deal. Who cares if he got stopped by the cops? Nothing major came from it, so whatever. He was driving while being under the influence. If you can't see what's wrong with that, well...
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Post by comahan on Mar 9, 2010 9:10:26 GMT -5
Hes beloved enough to get *STING* over as a heel
There are soooo few people who could have done that
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Post by hollywood on Mar 9, 2010 11:42:10 GMT -5
I love Rob. One of my all time favorites. But he's not gonna do much to help TNA overcome the "old wrestlers' home" moniker.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2010 11:44:23 GMT -5
RVD wasn't given much during his WWE run, and yet, he was popular.
Maybe it has something to do with his moveset.
Anyway, at 39, I think he can still pull out a few great matches here and there. The one worry is if he starts "mailing it", but hopefully, TNA will do a lot to make him happy.
As opposed to their current plan of making Hogan and his chums happy.
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Post by hollywood on Mar 9, 2010 11:49:58 GMT -5
RVD wasn't given much during his WWE run, and yet, he was popular. For the love of...... Okay, I'm a HUGE fan of RVD, but this notion he was held down or something in WWE is pretty damn absurd. They made him a WWE CHAMP. They made him ECW CHAMP. Hell, he was a DUAL CHAMP at the time. And the only reason he was stripped of it is because of his own stupid mistakes. (Save the marijuana arguments, please.) Yea, the ECW resurrection failed big time. But it was WWE's biggest angle at the time, and they put Rob right in the middle of it. Before that, the guy became an upper midcarder and occasional main eventer within months of his debut. And they even ran with his idea of an ECW Reunion show. Now, I'm not gonna say WWE booked him as well as ECW. They didn't, not by a long shot. He floundered a bit in the midcard for quite some time because they just couldn't seem to figure out what to do with him. (Yet another incident supporting Cornette's belief all "wrestling writers" should be fired.) But they hardly "held him down." The only time they really did was after his legal troubles...and, let's be honest, what the hell else were they supposed to do??
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2010 12:17:17 GMT -5
[ For the love of...... Okay, I'm a HUGE fan of RVD, but this notion he was held down or something in WWE is pretty damn absurd. They made him a WWE CHAMP. They made him ECW CHAMP. Hell, he was a DUAL CHAMP at the time. And the only reason he was stripped of it is because of his own stupid mistakes. (Save the marijuana arguments, please.) Yea, the ECW resurrection failed big time. But it was WWE's biggest angle at the time, and they put Rob right in the middle of it. Before that, the guy became an upper midcarder and occasional main eventer within months of his debut. And they even ran with his idea of an ECW Reunion show. Now, I'm not gonna say WWE booked him as well as ECW. They didn't, not by a long shot. He floundered a bit in the midcard for quite some time because they just couldn't seem to figure out what to do with him. (Yet another incident supporting Cornette's belief all "wrestling writers" should be fired.) But they hardly "held him down." The only time they really did was after his legal troubles...and, let's be honest, what the hell else were they supposed to do?? I was more or less referring to the fact that they only pushed him sporadically during that period of time. There was the pre-InVasion push, the push before the Reign of Terror, a 2004 push, and the WWE Title push. Other than that, they simply just planted RVD in the ring for no apparant reason.
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Post by hollywood on Mar 9, 2010 12:21:24 GMT -5
[ For the love of...... Okay, I'm a HUGE fan of RVD, but this notion he was held down or something in WWE is pretty damn absurd. They made him a WWE CHAMP. They made him ECW CHAMP. Hell, he was a DUAL CHAMP at the time. And the only reason he was stripped of it is because of his own stupid mistakes. (Save the marijuana arguments, please.) Yea, the ECW resurrection failed big time. But it was WWE's biggest angle at the time, and they put Rob right in the middle of it. Before that, the guy became an upper midcarder and occasional main eventer within months of his debut. And they even ran with his idea of an ECW Reunion show. Now, I'm not gonna say WWE booked him as well as ECW. They didn't, not by a long shot. He floundered a bit in the midcard for quite some time because they just couldn't seem to figure out what to do with him. (Yet another incident supporting Cornette's belief all "wrestling writers" should be fired.) But they hardly "held him down." The only time they really did was after his legal troubles...and, let's be honest, what the hell else were they supposed to do?? I was more or less referring to the fact that they only pushed him sporadically during that period of time. There was the pre-InVasion push, the push before the Reign of Terror, a 2004 push, and the WWE Title push. Other than that, they simply just planted RVD in the ring for no apparant reason. Fair enough. There's no arguing that. But I'd be remiss if I didn't point those are 4 more pushes than most wrestlers ever get to enjoy. I guess my point is, if he ends up doing some "shoot" where he rips WWE apart saying they held him down, I'll pretty much lose all respect for him the way I did Kurt Angle and Booker T.
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Post by MCMGM on Mar 9, 2010 20:04:36 GMT -5
Seriously, I'm the only one who thinks he has a nice ass?
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Post by Massive G on Mar 9, 2010 22:30:16 GMT -5
It won't. He'll come in, doing it for the paycheck and the easy schedule, and he'll have the same match with each guy he faces. This sums it up so nicely. I don't know about the paycheck and easy schedule part necessarily, but he absolutely will have the same match every single time. He has literally been stuck in time for at least the last ten to twelve years, with his haircut, moves, mannerisms, and the stupid yin yang thing on his tights like its still 1996 and everyone is getting into this new phenomenon called "Mortal Kombat".
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Post by Janitor From Mars on Mar 10, 2010 2:42:30 GMT -5
I love Rob. One of my all time favorites. But he's not gonna do much to help TNA overcome the "old wrestlers' home" moniker. He got me to want Sting swept out of the rafters and shooed away for good. Seriously, Sting's gimmick is just as stale as some in the WWE. He's doing the exact same stuff he did when the NWO first formed, except that Hogan is nowhere near the shape he was to fight Sting.
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Post by AriadosMan on Mar 10, 2010 2:45:48 GMT -5
LEAVE ROBBIE ALONE! YOU PEOPLE DON'T GIVE A VAN DAM ABOUT ANYTHING!!!
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Post by Orange on Mar 10, 2010 4:23:15 GMT -5
RVD is the most overrated wrestler ever, I don't agree with you, but your sig makes up for it big time. 30 for him next season, franchise QB? ha! I like RVD, he's not absolutely amazing but he's an entertaining guy. I hope to see him around in TNA for a long time, and I hope he brings Sabu with him!
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Post by thesam07 on Mar 10, 2010 6:03:22 GMT -5
CAUSE HE'S THE WHOLE F****** SHOW DADDY! (blows whistle)
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Post by hollywood on Mar 10, 2010 13:19:15 GMT -5
It won't. He'll come in, doing it for the paycheck and the easy schedule, and he'll have the same match with each guy he faces. This sums it up so nicely. I don't know about the paycheck and easy schedule part necessarily, but he absolutely will have the same match every single time. He has literally been stuck in time for at least the last ten to twelve years, with his haircut, moves, mannerisms, and the stupid yin yang thing on his tights like its still 1996 and everyone is getting into this new phenomenon called "Mortal Kombat". In that case, he's a perfect fit for TNA.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Mar 10, 2010 13:57:03 GMT -5
What's this "Mortal Kombat" you speak of?
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