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Post by Snake "The Jake" Roberts on Mar 9, 2010 20:43:21 GMT -5
This just proves that tna has a very loyal audience that followed them to monday nights. However, with all the hype put behind the show, you think they would be able to pull SOME of the Raw viewers just out of curiousity or nostalgia for the Monday night wars.
So, I would call this a failure. Not saying they needed to pull huge numbers or even a 2.0, but there should be a little bump in the ratings, at least.
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Post by jobsquad on Mar 9, 2010 20:46:47 GMT -5
I was expecting a bit higher like a 1.3 HOWEVER I do think that TNA was hurt by back to back crap episodes leading into the Monday broadcast. So after 2 craptacular episodes and a change in time slot they managed to hold a 1.0. All in all its disappointing but not tragic. I think next week that they will do a better rating 1.2ish because of the hype and good show lead in. Its going to take years for TNA to beat RAW so give them time. I don't mean to sound like I'm attacking you because I'm not directly with this, but I am so sick and tired of the "Give them time" argument. In three months the ratings have gone from a 1.5 to a 0.98, the Genesis buyrate was rumored to be down and the main event of your biggest night did a 0.76. How much longer are we expected to wait before the rainbow appears? Because at the moment it doesn't look like it's coming any time soon They have had 4 years or so since Dixie came in and they got their 2 hour show, right? 4 years is a long time to be on TV without building things. It is not for the lack of good ideas, it is simply their failure to present them the right way. Wrestling is not subjective...you do things for a reason in order to build up heat and build to things. You can not go the other way and pretend to be innovative if it violates all of the preset rules.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 9, 2010 20:47:02 GMT -5
What the hell...I find that really hard to believe. I mean this Monday was nowhere near as advertised as Jan 4th but...wow. God damn. I don't know about that there was a billboard across the street from Penn Station/MSG advertising Hogan for this week. There wasn't one for the Jan. 4 show. Not to mention I am personally tired of the moving goalposts... they need a better channel/timeslot then they'll dominate... they move from FSN to Spike and get a primetime show... not much changes... well it's because they have 1 hour... they need another one! They get a second one and again not much changes.... well they need to move to Monday... etc...etc... etc... They need to work with what they have and build from there... stop focusing on competing with the E... and build their fan-base... stop relying on people that passed their primes 10-20 years ago at this point, and then put on the best damn show you can.
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Post by Michael Coello on Mar 9, 2010 20:47:37 GMT -5
I was expecting a bit higher like a 1.3 HOWEVER I do think that TNA was hurt by back to back crap episodes leading into the Monday broadcast. So after 2 craptacular episodes and a change in time slot they managed to hold a 1.0. All in all its disappointing but not tragic. I think next week that they will do a better rating 1.2ish because of the hype and good show lead in. Its going to take years for TNA to beat RAW so give them time. I don't mean to sound like I'm attacking you because I'm not directly with this, but I am so sick and tired of the "Give them time" argument. In three months the ratings have gone from a 1.5 to a 0.98, the Genesis buyrate was rumored to be down and the main event of your biggest night did a 0.76. How much longer are we expected to wait before the rainbow appears? Because at the moment it doesn't look like it's coming any time soon The thing of it is, 1.5 wasn't an average, just a peak from their show. They did 1.2-1.3 and then dropped a bit here, but not much of a crowd loss. Also, the main event continued and ended in the overrun, and that went up. You know, people can say all they want, but iMPACT is pretty much the one show I know that never stays down in the rating. RAW dropped, Smackdown dropped, ECW dropped and got replaced with NXT, shows like WSX come and go, yet iMPACT just keeps chugging along.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Mar 9, 2010 20:47:51 GMT -5
What the hell...I find that really hard to believe. I mean this Monday was nowhere near as advertised as Jan 4th but...wow. God damn. I don't know about that there was a billboard across the street from Penn Station/MSG advertising Hogan for this week. There wasn't one for the Jan. 4 show. They had one in Times Square for Jan 4.
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Post by kropotkin on Mar 9, 2010 20:51:59 GMT -5
Source: Wrestleview.
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Post by Michael Coello on Mar 9, 2010 20:54:00 GMT -5
I wonder how much DVR will have an impact on the rating.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 9, 2010 20:54:46 GMT -5
I don't know about that there was a billboard across the street from Penn Station/MSG advertising Hogan for this week. There wasn't one for the Jan. 4 show. They had one in Times Square for Jan 4. Did they? I don't remember seeing it... but I'm not the most observant man when it comes to what ad's are blaring at me while I walk to and from work.... so well that point redacted then. <_< >_>
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Post by Mayonnaise on Mar 9, 2010 20:56:00 GMT -5
They had one in Times Square for Jan 4. Did they? I don't remember seeing it... but I'm not the most observant man when it comes to what ad's are blaring at me while I walk to and from work.... so well that point redacted then. <_< >_> Yeah, I remember Dixie making a huge deal about it on Twitter. It's a Spike owned billboard that usually has UFC stuff on it if I remember right.
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Post by Raging_Demons on Mar 9, 2010 20:58:04 GMT -5
I wonder how much DVR will have an impact on the rating. I don't think DVR will effect it at all.
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Post by donners on Mar 9, 2010 20:58:21 GMT -5
The problem is that they are still chugging along with substantially more expense. They have nothing to show for all that has been spent on this new direction.
If they were happy just chugging along where they were, then they would never have made such drastic changes.
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Post by Michael Coello on Mar 9, 2010 21:08:14 GMT -5
The problem is that they are still chugging along with substantially more expense. They have nothing to show for all that has been spent on this new direction. If they were happy just chugging along where they were, then they would never have made such drastic changes. While I say chugging along, it doesn't mean that nothing's changed. They've had house shows, international tours, expansion to other countries, and stuff like that. The thing is, it's something positive to see, gradual rises in the face of drops in other places. It's more endurance than anything, and TNA really aren't going crazy on cash and unnecessary flashy items like WCW spent that one year .
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Post by Mayonnaise on Mar 9, 2010 21:08:26 GMT -5
Credit PWInsider: For what it is worth, SpikeTV sources indicate they are fine with TNA's rating, in that the demographics for 18-34 were well and the series brought its Thursday audience over to Monday. It was seen as the first step in a larger goal for the Impact show.
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Post by kropotkin on Mar 9, 2010 21:13:03 GMT -5
I was expecting a bit higher like a 1.3 HOWEVER I do think that TNA was hurt by back to back crap episodes leading into the Monday broadcast. So after 2 craptacular episodes and a change in time slot they managed to hold a 1.0. All in all its disappointing but not tragic. I think next week that they will do a better rating 1.2ish because of the hype and good show lead in. Its going to take years for TNA to beat RAW so give them time. I don't mean to sound like I'm attacking you because I'm not directly with this, but I am so sick and tired of the "Give them time" argument. In three months the ratings have gone from a 1.5 to a 0.98, the Genesis buyrate was rumored to be down and the main event of your biggest night did a 0.76. How much longer are we expected to wait before the rainbow appears? Because at the moment it doesn't look like it's coming any time soon Why does it seem like you have a personal grudge against TNA? Like seriously, chill. What is it to you? So, they may "suck" in your mind. Okay...move on. Some people seem to take these things as personal offenses. I don't understand.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Mar 9, 2010 21:21:40 GMT -5
Guys, knock it off.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Mar 9, 2010 21:27:27 GMT -5
This is not just bad for TNA, but the wrestling business as a whole, as both TNA and WWE Raw has lower ratings this week. Not good.
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Post by jobsquad on Mar 9, 2010 21:27:41 GMT -5
I don't understand people arguing personally over two wrestling shows. Pointing out the things they could of done better in spots, missed opportunities, etc. and then debating why you agree or disagree is one thing, but actually hating one promotion over the other? It reeks of something similar to an XBOX-Playstation argument.
The good: There is an alternative for fans. There is a much better chance for workers to make a living in wrestling.
The Bad: Outside of pointing out things that could have theoretically been better and debating on it, which goes for both shows, I don't think there is a bad thing about it. It isn't like either promotion is trying to kill the other one, like WCW was doing to the WWF.
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Post by comahan on Mar 9, 2010 21:28:35 GMT -5
I don't understand people arguing personally over two wrestling shows. Pointing out the things they could of done better in spots, missed opportunities, etc. and then debating why you agree or disagree is one thing, but actually hating one promotion over the other? It reeks of something similar to an XBOX-Playstation argument. The good: There is an alternative for fans. There is a much better chance for workers to make a living in wrestling. The Bad: Outside of pointing out things that could have theoretically been better and debating on it, which goes for both shows, I don't think there is a bad thing about it. It isn't like either promotion is trying to kill the other one, like WCW was doing to the WWF. PC > Mac !!
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Post by Twincest on Mar 9, 2010 21:31:29 GMT -5
TNA is doing this all wrong.
Air from 8:00 to 10:05. Get higher ratings during the first hour due to lack of direct competition. Put on a good show during the first hour and you'll get a decent portion of the audience interested enough to stick with the show instead of turning to Raw at 9.
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Post by jobsquad on Mar 9, 2010 21:33:02 GMT -5
I don't understand people arguing personally over two wrestling shows. Pointing out the things they could of done better in spots, missed opportunities, etc. and then debating why you agree or disagree is one thing, but actually hating one promotion over the other? It reeks of something similar to an XBOX-Playstation argument. The good: There is an alternative for fans. There is a much better chance for workers to make a living in wrestling. The Bad: Outside of pointing out things that could have theoretically been better and debating on it, which goes for both shows, I don't think there is a bad thing about it. It isn't like either promotion is trying to kill the other one, like WCW was doing to the WWF. PC > Mac !! That is something we can all agree on ;D At least when it comes to games.
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