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Post by rose on Jun 28, 2010 18:13:07 GMT -5
I was watching old clips of Brian Pillman, and it got me to thinking...the hardest thing for me about being a wrestling fan is also very morbidly fascinating.
That is, the pattern we know all too well. The premature deaths of our favorite wrestlers never stops being shocking and heartbreaking. No matter the cause, the deaths of my heroes seems to erode away the memories of my childhood, while simultaneously causing me to want to learn more about the lifestyles and histories which caused these fates.
I'm wondering why it is that I can still be a fan, despite all the tragedy.
Thoughts?
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Post by Psycho Penguin on Jun 28, 2010 19:04:27 GMT -5
It's almost impossible to find a place to discuss wrestling rationally. Most people either dismiss it as 'fake' or act all super douchy and 'smart'. About 1% of the internet has rational wrestling discussion, including here.
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Post by Dean-o on Jun 28, 2010 19:07:00 GMT -5
Watching PPVs or shows from when I was a kid and realizing almost half of the roster is dead.
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Jun 28, 2010 19:07:51 GMT -5
Trying to defend wrestling to people who only know about Vinnie-land and all the wonderful things he's done the last decade.
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Post by strykerdarksilence on Jun 28, 2010 19:13:59 GMT -5
Trying to explain that it takes skill and training to do it.
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Post by noah9322 on Jun 28, 2010 19:16:37 GMT -5
Premature deaths is a very hard aspect. But the hardest is the negative view of wrestling by the Mainstream media in general. (Which I find odd since through attendance its been proven that wrestling is one of Americas top forms of entertainment) Nobody really knows that I'm still a wrestling fan.  |
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Post by agent817 on Jun 28, 2010 19:17:52 GMT -5
It's hard being a wrestling fan when I am around pro-MMA anti-wrestling people. Seriously, being a fan of MMA is fine and all. I am a casual fan to some degree, but I utterly hate it when people compare wrestling to MMA and are always bashing wrestling fans to no end. The ironic part of it all is that wrestling fans respect MMA, also there are wrestlers who respect the sport and are fans of it as well. Also, some MMA fighters respect wrestling and are fans of it as well.
Also, the funny thing about people who give us flack about tights and homoerotic undertones don't seem to see that in MMA or other sports. Some MMA fighters wear tights as well, not to mention the grappling seems a bit "compromising". Also, real wrestlers wear tights, so do football players.
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Jun 28, 2010 19:21:06 GMT -5
The fact that the people in the wrestling business look at fans with total disdain and contempt.
They see one creepy nutjob that tries to cut a promo on YouTube, and they see all of us that way.
But they're the ones taking the bumps and destroying their bodies, even though we're the stupid ones.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Jun 28, 2010 19:26:06 GMT -5
the most difficult aspect of being a wrestling fan is having to deal with non-wrestling fans. i like wrestling. the people i work with don't. not a day goes by they don't say at least three comments about how i like to watch guys in their underwear pretending to fight. if i'm looking up the latest news on MSNBC.com, i get told stuff like "You know wrestlings fake, right?" (by the way, didn't know was super duper shocked when i got told this for the 1,283,594th time).
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Post by sweatpants on Jun 28, 2010 19:27:29 GMT -5
Trying to defend wrestling to people who only know about Vinnie-land and all the wonderful things he's done the last decade. This. There's nothing more embarrassing than watching an episode of The Soup with someone and their first impression of wrestling is a midget jumping onto a dude in a cow costume. |
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Post by jamielowndes {N} on Jun 28, 2010 19:46:18 GMT -5
It's hard being a wrestling fan when I am around pro-MMA anti-wrestling people. Seriously, being a fan of MMA is fine and all. I am a casual fan to some degree, but I utterly hate it when people compare wrestling to MMA and are always bashing wrestling fans to no end. The ironic part of it all is that wrestling fans respect MMA, also there are wrestlers who respect the sport and are fans of it as well. Also, some MMA fighters respect wrestling and are fans of it as well. Also, the funny thing about people who give us flack about tights and homoerotic undertones don't seem to see that in MMA or other sports. Some MMA fighters wear tights as well, not to mention the grappling seems a bit "compromising". Also, real wrestlers wear tights, so do football players. Preaching to the choir. Im sick of having to defend pro wrestling on Sherdog. Brock Lesnar just gets passed off as a fake wrestler, and pro wrestling is seen as gay. And with all the respect in the world to every Brazilian Jiu Jitsu specialist in the world, the guard is just the missionary position with clothes on. If we can look past the homoerotic undertones of that, then I think we can give wrestling a break. |
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Post by Judas Heyman on Jun 28, 2010 20:51:32 GMT -5
Most of the non wrestling fans see the wrestling fans as childish/kiddish/immature. This is the most difficult aspect imho.
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Post by Young Game on Jun 28, 2010 20:53:33 GMT -5
You want to talk tragedy?
It's a flippin' tragedy that I'll never get to see Super Dragon wrestle, or get the chance to meet him.
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Post by johnnyk9 on Jun 28, 2010 21:04:41 GMT -5
I agree I do get that aspect
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Jun 28, 2010 21:08:29 GMT -5
It's hard being a wrestling fan when I am around pro-MMA anti-wrestling people. Seriously, being a fan of MMA is fine and all. I am a casual fan to some degree, but I utterly hate it when people compare wrestling to MMA and are always bashing wrestling fans to no end. The ironic part of it all is that wrestling fans respect MMA, also there are wrestlers who respect the sport and are fans of it as well. Also, some MMA fighters respect wrestling and are fans of it as well. You can tell that alot of hardcore MMA fans used to be wrestling fans when they were younger but are now too scared to admit it. Though a good way to piss them off is point out how Japanese MMA has been heavily influenced by wrestling. |
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Jun 28, 2010 21:11:31 GMT -5
Most of the non wrestling fans see the wrestling fans as childish/kiddish/immature. This is the most difficult aspect imho. well it doesn't help when the largest (and as far as non-wrestling fans know/are concerned, only) wrestling promotion directly targets their product to children |
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Post by hajimenoippo on Jun 28, 2010 21:45:19 GMT -5
Dealing with other fans who are assholes
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Jun 28, 2010 21:55:46 GMT -5
It's hard being a wrestling fan when I am around pro-MMA anti-wrestling people. Seriously, being a fan of MMA is fine and all. I am a casual fan to some degree, but I utterly hate it when people compare wrestling to MMA and are always bashing wrestling fans to no end. The ironic part of it all is that wrestling fans respect MMA, also there are wrestlers who respect the sport and are fans of it as well. Also, some MMA fighters respect wrestling and are fans of it as well. Also, the funny thing about people who give us flack about tights and homoerotic undertones don't seem to see that in MMA or other sports. Some MMA fighters wear tights as well, not to mention the grappling seems a bit "compromising". Also, real wrestlers wear tights, so do football players. That's some serious hypocrisy from the MMA fans right there. So by their definition Pro Wrestling is "Gay Dudes in Tights Rolling Around"..........but ever watch an MMA fight with the sound off? It looks like a prison rape, fer cryin' out loud! |
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Post by rapidfire187 on Jun 28, 2010 23:22:07 GMT -5
Dealing with wrestling deaths sucks, but it's not particularly hard as in difficult. I feel sad because I usually end up learning things about the wrestler in question that alters my respect for them a lot of times, and obviously it sucks realizing that one of your favorites will never perform again. I'm definitely not downplaying wrestling deaths, it's just that I personally handle deaths really well I think.
To me the most difficult aspect of being a wrestling fan is the crap you get from non-fans. For one, the arguments are usually either really stupid, or very legit criticism's that you simply can't defend properly to someone that doesn't get it. The non-fan won't think you're any cooler because you're more into serious Japanese or Indy wrestling rather than the stuff on TV. It's all the same to them.
I mentioned to a guy at work the Monday that the Benoit thing started that I was a little down because my favorite wrestler had died. He seemed genuinely annoyed that I could care about something so stupid.
I think that's the toughest part. You're into something that apparently a lot of others are into, but general society treats it like a joke. It gets even worse whenever the current WWE product stinks, because then people assume that you like the show just because you're watching it in hopes that something good will happen.
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Post by rose on Jun 29, 2010 2:13:20 GMT -5
I agree with the poster who said that it's difficult to find an intelligent exchange about wrestling. This forum has provided me with a lot of thought-provoking info.
I don't tell other people that I'm a wrestling fan unless I find out that they are too, so that eliminates being judged by non-fans. I also think that MMA looks a lot more homo-erotic than wrestling. (I think that the high-flying styles are less compromising than mat-based grappling.)
Even if I had to deal with being hassled by non-fans, for me, it doesn't compare to the deaths of heroes. In about a year and a half in '02-'03 we lost three people who I had watched when I was a very young kid: Curt Hennig, Davey Boy Smith, and Miss Elizabeth.
Harder still is the idea that we should prepare ourselves for who we might lose next...
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