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Post by aress on Jun 5, 2010 22:22:49 GMT -5
I've always hated the X Factor. I don't understand how simply grabbing someone's head can suddenly propel their entire body to the mat.
Also the STFU. Good grief John, just pull back a little when you do it.
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lionheart21
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Post by lionheart21 on Jun 5, 2010 22:26:12 GMT -5
C4 and Canadian Destroyer
The Avalance C4, however, is a credible finisher
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Post by sunwukong on Jun 5, 2010 22:30:21 GMT -5
Think about it. Some people can leg press over a ton of weight. What's the world record for a bench press? About half a ton. You can exert a lot more force with your legs than you can your arms if trained right. Besides, Shawn's been superkicking people for over 20 years. How is it unrealistic to believe that he's honed the art of the boot to the head to perfection? The point isn't that the kick isn't strong. The point is that if you can shrug off 30+ bare knuckle blows square in the face, why the hell should a kick do anything special? The sheer amount of punches have established that you are literally immune to the headshot. For example: Go punch a brick wall 30 times. Then go kick it once. Notice how you did jack squat. The move makes a lot more sense in a world where a wrestlers head isn't made of "titanium". Although the argument that he aims for under the chin as opposed to the head is a good one. That, I understand. Again, I've been both the recipient of and deliver of a side kick to the head that has resulted in a loss of consciousness. It's so much more ridiculously powerful than a punch that you have to feel it to understand.
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Post by maximilian on Jun 6, 2010 1:52:12 GMT -5
The Lie Detector, Trouble in Paradise, Starship Pain, MVP's Playmaker/Play of the Day, and GtS are all horrible.
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Post by mrjl on Jun 6, 2010 11:33:57 GMT -5
The Lie Detector, Trouble in Paradise, Starship Pain, MVP's Playmaker/Play of the Day, and GtS are all horrible. trouble in Paradise is an actual martial arts kick from what I understand
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Post by Red Impact on Jun 6, 2010 12:34:51 GMT -5
The point isn't that the kick isn't strong. The point is that if you can shrug off 30+ bare knuckle blows square in the face, why the hell should a kick do anything special? The sheer amount of punches have established that you are literally immune to the headshot. For example: Go punch a brick wall 30 times. Then go kick it once. Notice how you did jack squat. The move makes a lot more sense in a world where a wrestlers head isn't made of "titanium". Although the argument that he aims for under the chin as opposed to the head is a good one. That, I understand. I disagree. If you punch a heavy punching bag 30 times, you're going to soften it up, but you won't jar it as much as you would with one strong side kick. Also, punches hit don't tend to be the big, wind-up punches, they're short and quick unless they're on a turnbuckle. Either way, I think a side-kick to the chin is a very realistic way to put someone down.
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Post by joey joe joe junior shabadoo on Jun 6, 2010 13:31:10 GMT -5
Starship pain, his feet hit the mat for god's sake!
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Post by Real Folk Bruce on Jun 6, 2010 13:53:10 GMT -5
Any move that requires an excessively long pause before it hits like a 619 or the running scissors kick (The moves fine normally, but I don't like it when they keel the other guy over and he stands there doing nothing while the other guy runs the ropes).
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Post by jamielowndes {N} on Jun 6, 2010 15:45:48 GMT -5
The Lie Detector, Trouble in Paradise, Starship Pain, MVP's Playmaker/Play of the Day, and GtS are all horrible. GTFO on Trouble in Paradise and the GTS. It's a spinning roundhouse to the face. How does that not hurt? Same with the GTS, dropping someone on to an elevated knee. An unguarded knee to the face is gonna mess you up.
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Post by The F'N Captain on Jun 6, 2010 15:55:52 GMT -5
The crucifix powerbomb always bugged me, unless your opponent is nearly comatose why wouldn't they wiggle free? I know they do sometimes but just seems too easy to escape with the long setup
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Post by Corre.222 on Jun 6, 2010 22:23:20 GMT -5
I was looking throughout these 4 pages to see if anybody listed Big Show's punch. And nobody did.
Big Show's punch.
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Post by Brainbustaaah! on Jun 6, 2010 22:26:27 GMT -5
I was looking throughout these 4 pages to see if anybody listed Big Show's punch. And nobody did. Big Show's punch. Because a shot to the temple from a powerful man could not only KO you, it could kill you.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jun 7, 2010 0:04:14 GMT -5
7 words.
No One Should Ever Powerbomb Billy Kidman.
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Post by JohnnyTruant on Jun 7, 2010 1:18:30 GMT -5
The Worm. 'nuff said.
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Post by Nic Nemeth on Jun 7, 2010 1:57:01 GMT -5
I was looking throughout these 4 pages to see if anybody listed Big Show's punch. And nobody did. Big Show's punch. I'm sorry but in what way is a punch unrealistic?
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jun 7, 2010 5:43:35 GMT -5
I was looking throughout these 4 pages to see if anybody listed Big Show's punch. And nobody did. Big Show's punch. We need to get a 400+ lb man with boxing training to punch you in the face if you honestly believe this. As far as the Canadian Destroyer goes, my big problem with the realistic qualities of the move is not so much the move itself, but the way Petey is portrayed in initiating the move. TNA seemed to present it as if he was somehow directly causing the opponent to stand up and thus be Destroyed, rather than the logical explanation that Petey was countering a back body drop. For example, Williams would hit the move on a "knocked out" opponent which is completely impossible no matter how strong you are. It would have been much more realistic if Petey Williams had a different primary finisher (preferably a Powerbomb/Piledriver variation) and then busted out the Canadian Destroyer as a counter to a counter.
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Post by ozzyismetal on Jun 7, 2010 5:48:33 GMT -5
7 words. No One Should Ever Powerbomb Billy Kidman. I've never seen this counter, yet have heard it's awesome. Can you describe it?
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Post by aress on Jun 7, 2010 5:57:03 GMT -5
I was looking throughout these 4 pages to see if anybody listed Big Show's punch. And nobody did. Big Show's punch. My only complaint over Big Show's punch is that he should be able to hit it any time in the match. Theoretically he should be able to beat anyone in seconds. So why doesn't he?
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Post by stylesclashwoooo on Jun 7, 2010 6:36:07 GMT -5
the lie detector - until recently it was just a move r-truth did during matches as a regular move leading up to the axe kick. Its gone from a standard move to being his finisher overnight. i cant accept that!
Also honourable mention goes to the walls of jericho. Jericho got so many wins making people tap to that move ... now its just a nothing move that people ALWAYS get out of.
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Post by mrjl on Jun 7, 2010 7:12:09 GMT -5
7 words. No One Should Ever Powerbomb Billy Kidman. I've never seen this counter, yet have heard it's awesome. Can you describe it? www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0dHEXrvv3gIt's move number 5 called the Kid Factor.
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