Worst aspect of the new "Universe" era?

[Thynny Fat Ass]

The "Attitude" era is long gone, and it's safe to assume we all miss it.

But what two aspects bug you the most?

[Drillbit Taylor]

None if it. I do not need raunch and blood to be entertained.

[peltier]

I selected Guest Hosts and Other. Other being that it's harder than ever for new stars to break the glass ceiling. At this rate we may have Orton vs Cena for WrestleMania L

[barley96]

I voted for "Injury breaks" and blood clean-up No more "Holy s***" spots, however I could vote for all of them except Santino. He was funny before WWE turned TV-PG circa late 2007and early 2008.

[BxB]

You know I get that they want to keep their product clean, but having breaks during a match really kills the flow of the match to an immense degree. I voted for that.

[sweatpants]

A large portion of the roster not being over.

[josh]

RAW in general. Easily the worst weekly show professional wrestling has ever seen. I'd rather watching the dying days of Nitro than the Monday Night garbage they spew now.

[barley96]

May 28, 2010 13:32:35 GMT -5 BxB said:

You know I get that they want to keep their product clean, but having breaks during a match really kills the flow of the match to an immense degree. I voted for that.

Rey Mysterio and CM Punk managed to have an awesome match with a break, but most matches seem to become worse after it.

[Alex Shelley]

The only thing that bothers me is stopping the match to clean up blood. If blood happens, let it happen, dammit. I can understand not having wrestlers blade, but unintentional blood should not stop a match. It's so f***ing unprofessional to me.

[Shameful_Lobsterhead]

Def. the guest hosts and a trickle of blood runs down someone's face, they have to stop the match for 20 mins to patch him up

[redpyramidsh]

The watered down language, I don't really mean that I MISS like all the poontang pie speeches but I wouldn't mind some cursing. These are adults fighting and strong language can always be used as a way to show an extreme in emotion. Plus whenever they skirt around insults without using it it sounds really forced (though batista pulled it off like a champ earlier this year).

[Snowman]

Why the hell have the lumped Hornswaggle with Santino?

[A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto)]

I voted for Cena and the cleanup blood stuff.

Cena: Almost single handedly killed any interest I have in the main event/main title scene of WWE wrestling from 2006 until now. Whenever he is in a main event or world title match, I'd say 8/10 times, you already know he is gonna win, or if not win, lose to some cheap heel. He'll never lose cleanly to anyone except HBK that one time. And for that alone I can't stand him. That isn't even including the stale character, limited moveset, lame promos about "neva back down!!!", and his idiotic hodge podge of gimmicks.

The blood cleanup stuff: Do I really need to explain this? I think most people in this thread, as well as all over this site, have expressed how dumb this can be. Yeah, we all, probably, can understand safety being a huge priority with all of the recent misfortunes in the wrestling industry, but for f***'s sake, DON'T DO A DAMN HARDCORE/LMS/EXTREME RULES MATCH IF YOU WON'T ALLOW BLOOD!!!!!!!! It's really that simple. If this is a pg squeaky clean product, then I don't wanna hear announcers talking about "Oh this will be such a brutal, diabolic match. People could be seriously injured in this steel structure, yadda yadda yadda..."

Aside from those two, I'd say "Other". Nothing seems important about wrestling anymore. If I miss a show, who cares? It's likely the same nonsense they have been doing for the past 4 years anyway most of the time, from what I read/hear. I can watch stuff from the mid-late 1990's and still be entertained by it. Even the jobber matches are tolerable. Now IF (key word there being 'if') I watch any RAW show on television now, I am fast forwarding through my DVR for like 70% of it. It just all sucks now. The only person who I cared about as of late was CM Punk. Nothing else matters to me, because WWE has taught me to have no faith in them.

[Nikki Heyman]

Language, definitely - it's rare to find an adult that doesn't cuss....

I put "Other" - like the IWC really needed something else to complain about

[smoot]

Lack of holy **** spots, and the guest hosts.

The lack of holy **** spots should be pretty obvious. I don't especially need anyone blading or swearing all over the place, but the spots are kind of why I'm here.

Now, guest hosts... : You know how when your teacher was out in school, the sub just sort of treaded water, just following the plan until they got back? Or when talk shows had 'guest hosts' because the real host was out for some reason, and it was cheaper than reruns? That's what I feel like for the guest hosts- they detract more than they add to the show.

The injury breaks have a reason, of course- but you could just as easily move to a "classic" three-falls or "rounds" format and have the checks as a regular thing during the breaks.

[Krimzon]

Matches being stopped for blood, no matter how small an amount, is f***ing ridiculous. Unless they're about to take the Muta Scale away from the man himself, the flow of no match should be killed because of it. Somebody gets a small cut, the match stops completely. A Goldust match was stopped because of a cut I couldn't even see. That shit has to go. Wrestling was just fine without this crap earlier this decade, in the 90s, 80s, etc. The fans hate it and I'm sure the wrestlers hate it too. The heat for their match has an 80-90% chance of dying completely.

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May 28, 2010 13:28:31 GMT -5 Drillbit Taylor said:

None if it. I do not need raunch and blood to be entertained.

What I was gonna say

[Thrillho]

The sheer number of wrestlers who may as well have emerged from the same fallopian tubes.

John Cena, Randy Orton, Cody Rhodes, Ted DiBiase Jr, Rene Dupree, Rob Conway, Eric Esssscobar, Evan Bourne, Curt Hawkins, Vance Archer, Caylen Croft, Trent Barretta, Zack Ryder (pre Woowoowoo), Nick Dinsmore (Pre Eugene), Charlie Haas.

They're nearly all tanned, big-but-not-too-big white 20 somethings with boring ring gear and even more boring personas. You'd think WWE would encourage their wrestlers to have a unique look since their idea of character development is "Make an angry/happy face".

Even better, just give them some kind of persona. Ok, so we've got John Cena, the guy who is very determined. Randy Orton, the guy who's very determined and angry. Sheamus, the guy who's very pale, determined, and angry. Edge, who's very smart... determined and angry. Undertaker*, who's angry and determined to never retire. Reyrey who's happy until he sees a heel, then he gets very angry and determined, homes dawg homes.


Side note: What is likable about The Undertaker's character other than "He's been here for 20 years"? The dude's a d***.

[Bang Bang Bart]

I voted "Other", as the only thing I've to complain about is that comic, WWE Heroes.

[thesunbeast]

Well, not to be a "party pooper", but I don't find much wrong with this era right now other than people who don't use what they have properly. So I don't have much issue with the direction of the company as much as I do with the directors, so to speak.

I think alot of the new standards are actually good and can actually be used for something, but rarely is. IMO, I think there are alot more things that are considered bad that are nothing more than the non-catering to the thirst of the profane, and thus blatant bilge, than there are things that are actually bad (objectively destructive).

It's like the difference between the styles of some stand-up comedians. Stand-up comedy is one of the hardest things to do, because entertainment is subjective. However, the ability to cater to another person's (or audience's) subjectivity is an objective skill. What I've always found are 2 things: #1, the comedians that don't do quite as well as others are always the ones who seem to have material that the audience absolutely must AGREE with philosophically in order for them to remotely think is funny, and #2, a good clean comedian always seems to make a much bigger impact on the viewers than the profane ones, particularly because it requires more creativity to adhere to certain standards and still be able to deliver.

The thing is, is that you can have a clean comedian that is nothing more than the same exact thing the dirty comedian was just without the profanity, and that's where there's a problem: You just removed a dimension without replacing it with something else, and therefore you appear "watered down" because you're still being compared to something else instead of being new.

With that said, I find alot of things about the product today that has come around and I honestly now believe that today's product as a whole is better than the attitude era, there are more improvements than digressions. But, in light of my arguments that I just made, my problem with today's product isn't the content itself but how the content is used.

There is one HUGE problem with today's product that is holding it back, which I may or may not get into.