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Post by darthalexander on Oct 8, 2010 11:35:46 GMT -5
If they went with how he was in Brian Azzarello's 'Joker' graphic novel, Croc was just a big, bruiser gangbanger with a skin condition. That could work. Don't know that I'd want that, but it would work. If this is true, maybe Croc would be the "B Villian" like Two-Face was in TDK. I just can't see Nolan doing it. He seemed very set on being "realistic". I don't care either way at this point, I just want the movie now!
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Post by Legion on Oct 8, 2010 11:54:19 GMT -5
No.
Killer Croc can't be the big bad all alone. He needs someone pulling his strings, or setting him in the Batman's direction. Just Croc wont work because there isnt any intelligence to Croc. He's just a bruiser with lizard powers. (If Nolan realy wants to do Croc without doing Croc, he can bring in his mate Cillian again and have Batman see 'Croc' under fear gas, even thought really its just a big normal guy).
I think they should go in the direction of having the mob boss as usual, could be Black Mask, but doesn't need to be, Croc and then have Riddler as he is now in the comics - a private eye who thinks he is better than Batman, but in trying to find out who Batman is is setting up alot of crimes himself.
Three/Four villains, same as the previous films, lots of brute force and intelligence in play.
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Post by Hawk Hart on Oct 8, 2010 12:18:31 GMT -5
It's gotta be a big rock. I'm hoping for Riddler personally but a Croc in the style that Jackrabbit suggested would be pretty great.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Oct 8, 2010 12:21:43 GMT -5
I'd rather him or Black Mask or really anyone else then the Riddler. He was a goofy character that should have been left back in the 50's/60's. Too bad Frank Gorshin played him in that show, or no one would remember him.
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Post by Legion on Oct 8, 2010 12:45:43 GMT -5
I'd rather him or Black Mask or really anyone else then the Riddler. He was a goofy character that should have been left back in the 50's/60's. Too bad Frank Gorshin played him in that show, or no one would remember him. Current Ridler is so so far removed from the past versions
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Post by Lazy peon on Oct 8, 2010 13:05:30 GMT -5
I WILL FEAST ON YOUR BONES, BATMAN
Batman will defeat him simply by throwing a batarang at his face every time he shows up.
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Post by The Ichi on Oct 8, 2010 13:06:10 GMT -5
Honestly? I think Hush would work. I'm reading his backstory now and it's realistic enough to fit in the Nolanverse Batman, plus it has ties to Scarecrow and The Riddler (who I personally think Nolan should hold out on for a while, he's already wasted his two biggest villians Joker and Two-Face).
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Post by BHB on Oct 8, 2010 13:12:20 GMT -5
If its the original version of Croc, I'd be fine with it, because in that iteration he was just a big freaky gangster with a skin disorder not an out and out "lizard man." Thing is, croc has only ever been cool when he's been a monstrous reptillian guy ala arkham asylum, no one wants to see a thug with a skin condition, what's cool about that? Obviously there are levels of reptillianism (it's stupid when he's had a tail for instance).
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Post by lildude8218 on Oct 8, 2010 13:22:51 GMT -5
why is everyone obsessed with Black Mask lately?
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Post by hossfan on Oct 8, 2010 13:22:55 GMT -5
If its the original version of Croc, I'd be fine with it, because in that iteration he was just a big freaky gangster with a skin disorder not an out and out "lizard man." Thing is, croc has only ever been cool when he's been a monstrous reptillian guy ala arkham asylum, no one wants to see a thug with a skin condition, what's cool about that? Obviously there are levels of reptillianism (it's stupid when he's had a tail for instance). The original Croc wasn't just a thug with a skin condition. He was actually pretty smart, and used his strength and wits to unify a bunch of Batman's enemies to try and take over crime in Gotham. He was Bane before Bane, except much cooler looking.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Oct 8, 2010 13:25:07 GMT -5
why is everyone obsessed with Black Mask lately? I have no idea. The dude's had like, two good storylines his entire existence, and has spent the rest of the time getting a Bat-boot in his face. I don't get where all the love comes from.
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Post by lildude8218 on Oct 8, 2010 13:29:01 GMT -5
why is everyone obsessed with Black Mask lately? I have no idea. The dude's had like, two good storylines his entire existence, and has spent the rest of the time getting a Bat-boot in his face. I don't get where all the love comes from. I didn't even know who the f*** he was until one of the "which villain would you like to see in a Batman movie?" threads. Granted, my only real exposure to the comics lasted all of 6 years but I've paid attention since then when I've had the chance by reading about the storylines on Wikipedia and whatnot.
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Post by waluigi on Oct 8, 2010 13:30:27 GMT -5
hasn't Nolan said in the past there are certain Batman villains he won't use, such as Penguin, Mr. Freeze and Killer Croc? What's so strange about Penguin that he couldn't use him as a villain? Maybe not the main villain, but maybe some guy for Batman to beat up in the first act or so.
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Post by Citizen Grimm on Oct 8, 2010 13:35:53 GMT -5
Bane. Knightfall storyline.
MAKE IT HAPPEN!
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Post by Cela on Oct 8, 2010 13:44:54 GMT -5
No. Killer Croc can't be the big bad all alone. He needs someone pulling his strings, or setting him in the Batman's direction. Just Croc wont work because there isnt any intelligence to Croc. He's just a bruiser with lizard powers. (If Nolan realy wants to do Croc without doing Croc, he can bring in his mate Cillian again and have Batman see 'Croc' under fear gas, even thought really its just a big normal guy). I think they should go in the direction of having the mob boss as usual, could be Black Mask, but doesn't need to be, Croc and then have Riddler as he is now in the comics - a private eye who thinks he is better than Batman, but in trying to find out who Batman is is setting up alot of crimes himself. Three/Four villains, same as the previous films, lots of brute force and intelligence in play. Yes he can. Plenty of good movies have used unintelligent big bads. Think of it this way, Bats is already avoiding the cops, possibly by skipping town, but a disturbing series of possibly cannibalistic murders force him back. He gets the crap beat out of him in the first showdown because honestly, who would expect a villain like croc in the realistic nolanverse? He escapes and formulates a plan, and finally takes him down while croc is about to devour gordons kid or something. It could work. Besides, Bat Begins didn't really focus on Ras Al Ghul and it turned out alright.
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Post by Bake Or Die on Oct 8, 2010 15:10:58 GMT -5
I'd rather him or Black Mask or really anyone else then the Riddler. He was a goofy character that should have been left back in the 50's/60's. Too bad Frank Gorshin played him in that show, or no one would remember him. I'm pretty sure alot of people remember the Jim Carrey version as well And that was around 1995. Only villains I'd like to see are the Riddler & Clayface & I don't think Clayface will happen anytime soon.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 8, 2010 16:25:52 GMT -5
why is everyone obsessed with Black Mask lately? I've always kinda liked him, so I honed in on him immediately as something different than the standard villains they trot out.. those guys, while great, we see EVERY time. Plus Mask is kinda a blank slate in that there's not a lot recognition with him sure, but to me that's a plus, in that you can embellish him for the movie version any way you want. Spanky mentioned him not being a physical threat.. here's an opportunity to make him one; without being hemmed in by what has to be the 'correct' version of the character, you can do all sorts of things with him. Plus he fits in with the more 'realistic' take Nolan is supposed to want to adhere to, so there's that as well. I just really like the guy as a second tier character that with some tweaking could be big. He's got a great look ( though I prefer the original eighties look rather than the skull face look), isn't the same slew of guys we've seen in every iteration of Batman, and a ton can be done with him to make him even more of a threat/cooler. I just like the guy, and have been championing his inclusion since Dark Knight.
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Post by Legion on Oct 8, 2010 16:49:49 GMT -5
No. Killer Croc can't be the big bad all alone. He needs someone pulling his strings, or setting him in the Batman's direction. Just Croc wont work because there isnt any intelligence to Croc. He's just a bruiser with lizard powers. (If Nolan realy wants to do Croc without doing Croc, he can bring in his mate Cillian again and have Batman see 'Croc' under fear gas, even thought really its just a big normal guy). I think they should go in the direction of having the mob boss as usual, could be Black Mask, but doesn't need to be, Croc and then have Riddler as he is now in the comics - a private eye who thinks he is better than Batman, but in trying to find out who Batman is is setting up alot of crimes himself. Three/Four villains, same as the previous films, lots of brute force and intelligence in play. Yes he can. Plenty of good movies have used unintelligent big bads. Think of it this way, Bats is already avoiding the cops, possibly by skipping town, but a disturbing series of possibly cannibalistic murders force him back. He gets the crap beat out of him in the first showdown because honestly, who would expect a villain like croc in the realistic nolanverse? He escapes and formulates a plan, and finally takes him down while croc is about to devour gordons kid or something. It could work. Besides, Bat Begins didn't really focus on Ras Al Ghul and it turned out alright. Batman always works best when he can actually have a conversation with the villain, so that, you know, a story can actually be told rather than just Batman beats on baddie, woooo! Wouldn't work for me at all. He needs someone with intelligence to bounce off, otherwise you dont have an interesting story imo.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2010 17:02:41 GMT -5
I'd definitely love to see Bane in the next movie.
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Post by Macho Dude Handy Damage on Oct 8, 2010 17:16:52 GMT -5
If they went with how he was in Brian Azzarello's 'Joker' graphic novel, Croc was just a big, bruiser gangbanger with a skin condition. That could work. Don't know that I'd want that, but it would work. And cannibal! Honestly? I think Hush would work. I said this before on this forum and the idea did not go over well with people. Apparently not many people seem to like Hush. I do though and wouldn't mind seeing him as the villain. But again, Hush is known to pretty much fans of the comics. He certainly doesn't have the commercial appeal from the get go as say, Riddler, Joker, Two-Face, Catwoman or even Killer Croc.
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