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Post by Predator McBroski on Nov 1, 2010 18:22:40 GMT -5
aol.it/d0tkxyUnconstitutional my ass. None of the amendments OR the Constitution say anything about this situation. In fact, the Constitution has asserted the existance of unnumerated rights. Suck it. Also, for "heinous, violent games." In most cases, you have the ability to turn off gore. Discuss how you feel about this topic.
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Post by Bo Rida on Nov 1, 2010 18:44:55 GMT -5
I find the whole thing confusing, is there no certification scheme like movies have?
It seems like cartoon Nintendo violence could potentially be treated the same way as more gory games but again I could be completely wrong about that.
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Post by Orange on Nov 1, 2010 18:46:14 GMT -5
Well holy shit, I didn't realize this was in Supreme Court  Video games are a motherf***ing scapegoat for parents not doing their jobs!! Don't want your kids to go shoot a cop and blow up a convenience store after playing Grand Theft Auto? Talk with your kids about separating reality from video games! It's not that hard! I have been playing games that have gore in them for a long damn time, and not once did I feel the urge to replicate what I saw in the games, because I was told by my parents that a video game is a video game. Parents don't want to teach their damn kids right from wrong, and then wonder why their children do stupid shit like they have in video game cases. It's the same situation as people using music as an excuse for violent or deadly behavior (Marilyn Manson and Slipknot's music come to mind most recently). It's not the music, it's not the games, it's not the movies, it's not the books, it's not the websites, all it is is the parent's lack of responsibility in teaching their kids right from wrong, fantasy from reality, and we have to pay for it. |
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Post by DrewVonAwesome on Nov 1, 2010 19:55:42 GMT -5
The trail has been thrown out the last two times due to clear cut violations of free speech. So really I'd be shocked if the case ends in favor of the regulation.
Not to mention this is the biggest case of slippery slope laws out there. If violent games are barred in this manner, then it'll not only cause games to become overly cautious about whatever they put in their game and essentially turn into a blank slate of gaming creativity. But also who's to start doing the same to movies, and then books, and then television.
The fact is, the only time something involving the barring of viewing or selling something to minors was in the 70's when pornography had to be barred from being sold to minors. Then that was something I don't think anyone would've argued against. This however isn't nearly the clear cut issue that was. So assuming the justices don't get suckered into thinking too deeply about some "THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN?!" argument, and use basic logic, this shouldn't be a major problem.
Not to mention, this whole thing is just the California politicians having as much focus on them as possible. It IS an election year, and they need to convince the uninformed that they're all about the children. The children that shouldn't be playing these games to begin with, but the children none the less.
You know the phrase "Don't let your kids grow up to be cowboys"? It should be changed to "Don't let your kids grow up to be politicians".
Oh and if you want to be in the know about this cheap BS and given avenues to stop it, join the Electronic Consumers Association at eca.com
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Post by shadowangel on Nov 1, 2010 20:02:31 GMT -5
Not to mention this is the biggest case of slippery slope laws out there. If violent games are barred in this manner, then it'll not only cause games to become overly cautious about whatever they put in their game and essentially turn into a blank slate of gaming creativity. But also who's to start doing the same to movies, and then books, and then television. And then it will be like here in germany and trust me, it's not nice to get video games, movies and books censored or banned  |
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Post by DrewVonAwesome on Nov 1, 2010 20:10:41 GMT -5
Not to mention this is the biggest case of slippery slope laws out there. If violent games are barred in this manner, then it'll not only cause games to become overly cautious about whatever they put in their game and essentially turn into a blank slate of gaming creativity. But also who's to start doing the same to movies, and then books, and then television. And then it will be like here in germany and trust me, it's not nice to get video games, movies and books censored or banned Exactly. |
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Nov 1, 2010 20:12:43 GMT -5
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Nov 1, 2010 20:25:20 GMT -5
Also, I must say I am VERY glad that the MPAA and other creative entertainment media governing bodies are 100% behind the video game industry.
It's kinda nice to see all these industries that had to go through what the gaming industry is currently going through to stand up and have their back.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Nov 1, 2010 22:14:53 GMT -5
I'm very surprised and more than a little concerned the Court even agreed to hear this case in the first place. I'm a lawyer and have been trying to read the minds of the Justices since they granted the state's petition back in April, and I've talked to numerous people including former judges and my old First Amendment Law professor, and while they all have doubts about the law's constitutionality, most did not want to make a prediction one way or the other. Add to that we have a brand-new Justice with no judicial record, who represents a true joker in the deck.
Needless to say, I probably won't get much sleep tonight.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Nov 2, 2010 0:01:16 GMT -5
isn't this kinda political...
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Nov 2, 2010 12:29:24 GMT -5
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Nov 2, 2010 12:35:42 GMT -5
The initial hearings have been heard. From the sounds of things, the judges pressed more questions against California than the video game industry. Wait a minute, this is Schwarzenegger. The Terminator has a problem with heinous violence and aggressive behavior? seriously?In video games, yes. |
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Post by DrewVonAwesome on Nov 2, 2010 16:05:27 GMT -5
Wait a minute, this is Schwarzenegger. The Terminator has a problem with heinous violence and aggressive behavior? seriously?In video games, yes. But not Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines, The Official Video Game Based on the Hit Movie |
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Post by Bauertainments on Nov 2, 2010 16:16:58 GMT -5
But not Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines, The Official Video Game Based on the Hit Movie Or Terminator 1, or Terminator 2, or Terminator 2 the arcade game, or Total Recall, or True Lies, or Predator. |
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Post by shadowangel on Nov 2, 2010 16:20:46 GMT -5
Some of Schwarzeneggers movies are banned in germany, because they're too violent.
Since he became a politician he became one of the biggest idiots on the planet....really, what happened?
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Nov 2, 2010 16:24:45 GMT -5
MPAA puts their rating on the games. Right in front and very conspicuous, plus on the back with a detailed reason for the rating(unlike with movies which usually make them quite small and only on the back... and in some cases, no details as to why). It is up to the parents to use them.
Just sounds like these parents are wanting one less responsibility. They won't be happy until robots are raising our children.
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Post by Bauertainments on Nov 2, 2010 16:25:14 GMT -5
Some of Schwarzeneggers movies are banned in germany, because they're too violent. Since he became a politician he became one of the biggest idiots on the planet....really, what happened? Wait... he JUST RECENTLY became a big idiot?!? |
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Post by Cyno on Nov 2, 2010 16:28:21 GMT -5
The courts in the US tend to side with the industry on this issue, though this is the first time the Supreme Court's ever heard anything to do with it. But there is precedence. I think every single lower court that's heard any sort of case involving restricting the sale of video games has struck down the law as unconstitutional. Hope that's the case with this one.
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Post by shadowangel on Nov 2, 2010 16:28:41 GMT -5
Wait... he JUST RECENTLY became a big idiot?!? Yeah before that he was just a cliche of a typical bodybuilder: all muscle, no brains, just like Lou Ferrigno (ever seen his movies?) But at least he made good movies Now he basically (of what i heard) destroyed california, he seems to be a big homophobe and tries to make an idiot out of himself. |
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Post by darthalexander on Nov 2, 2010 16:44:00 GMT -5
All this because some stupid parents want to blame their rotten kids' bad behavior on an idea or object instead of taking a good long look at themselves.
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Video games are a motherf***ing scapegoat for parents not doing their jobs!! Don't want your kids to go shoot a cop and blow up a convenience store after playing Grand Theft Auto? Talk with your kids about separating reality from video games! It's not that hard!
