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Post by i.Sarita.com on Nov 26, 2010 20:45:54 GMT -5
I'm not one to keep up with indy guys, but I remember that they had signed him up (which makes sense) but then he was let go seemingly pretty quick.
What was the reason for this? Is it known?
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Post by Square on Nov 26, 2010 20:46:43 GMT -5
Visa issues
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Post by Mayonnaise on Nov 26, 2010 20:47:21 GMT -5
That has been shot down by both Claudio and Mike Bucci who signed him. |
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 26, 2010 20:48:59 GMT -5
That has been shot down by both Claudio and Mike Bucci who signed him. Besides which, if there WERE visa issues, there's no way he would have been working the indies as regularly as he had been. |
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Post by strykerdarksilence on Nov 26, 2010 20:49:43 GMT -5
I call Johnny Ace-eference.
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Post by The Tank on Nov 26, 2010 20:50:02 GMT -5
The most prevalent theory besides the (shot down) visa issues thing was this:
When he got signed, Claudio canceled all his upcoming indy dates so he could start earlier. Apparently, Vince McMahon usually wants people to uphold any prior obligations before they begin with the company.
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Post by rrm15 on Nov 26, 2010 20:50:39 GMT -5
Wasn't there some wellness issue? Not like drugs but health concerns?
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 26, 2010 20:51:30 GMT -5
The most prevalent theory besides the (shot down) visa issues thing was this: When he got signed, Claudio canceled all his upcoming indy dates so he could start earlier. Apparently, Vince McMahon usually wants people to uphold any prior obligations before they begin with the company. This is the version I always hear that's the most believable. |
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Post by Mayonnaise on Nov 26, 2010 20:53:07 GMT -5
Wasn't there some wellness issue? Not like drugs but health concerns? Nah, Wellness wasn't a concern at the time. |
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Nov 26, 2010 20:53:34 GMT -5
The most prevalent theory besides the (shot down) visa issues thing was this: When he got signed, Claudio canceled all his upcoming indy dates so he could start earlier. Apparently, Vince McMahon usually wants people to uphold any prior obligations before they begin with the company. They'd seriously fire a guy for wanting to start sooner? That's idiotic. (Then again, it's the WWE, so I believe it.) |
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Post by joeskvorecky on Nov 26, 2010 21:08:43 GMT -5
The most prevalent theory besides the (shot down) visa issues thing was this: When he got signed, Claudio canceled all his upcoming indy dates so he could start earlier. Apparently, Vince McMahon usually wants people to uphold any prior obligations before they begin with the company. They'd seriously fire a guy for wanting to start sooner? That's idiotic. (Then again, it's the WWE, so I believe it.) It's not idiotic. Keeping your word on bookings is critically important and something people earn massive respect for. That's part of why people as diverse as Bret Hart, Mick Foley and Mike "The Miz" Mizanin have gotten so far in the world of wrestling: making shots and keeping their word. |
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Post by strykerdarksilence on Nov 26, 2010 21:11:10 GMT -5
It does make a lot of sense actually. This being WWE who allowed Daniel Bryan US Champion to work indy shows.
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Post by metylerca on Nov 26, 2010 21:11:43 GMT -5
The most prevalent theory besides the (shot down) visa issues thing was this: When he got signed, Claudio canceled all his upcoming indy dates so he could start earlier. Apparently, Vince McMahon usually wants people to uphold any prior obligations before they begin with the company. They'd seriously fire a guy for wanting to start sooner? That's idiotic. (Then again, it's the WWE, so I believe it.) I think it's admirable that they reprimanded him for canceling his indie dates and make himself look bad in order to move up to the big leagues. It sends the message that he'll sell out a booking for something better without hesitation. Now, letting him go because of it, that's another story. |
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Nov 26, 2010 21:17:31 GMT -5
This isn't 1985 anymore. Wanting to get started early and progress toward something that you feel is the more important endeavor gets you future endeavored?
Talk about stupid and petty.
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Post by mrjl on Nov 26, 2010 21:38:18 GMT -5
This isn't 1985 anymore. Wanting to get started early and progress toward something that you feel is the more important endeavor gets you future endeavored? Talk about stupid and petty. What if he gets a movie deal in the midst a feud for the WWE title? |
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Nov 26, 2010 21:52:34 GMT -5
This isn't 1985 anymore. Wanting to get started early and progress toward something that you feel is the more important endeavor gets you future endeavored? Talk about stupid and petty. What if he gets a movie deal in the midst a feud for the WWE title? A movie deal while you're in the middle of a title feud and cancelling some rinky dink Indy show dates to start development aren't the same thing...and you can't say he'd take the movie over the title feud because of it. |
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Post by y2kam on Nov 26, 2010 22:44:52 GMT -5
This isn't 1985 anymore. Wanting to get started early and progress toward something that you feel is the more important endeavor gets you future endeavored? Talk about stupid and petty. How is that petty? It's a sign of honour for the guy to keep his word. If anything, it's the opposite of petty, as WWE is doing those indie feds who booked Claudio a favour by allowing him to work the shows and draw a crowd. |
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Nov 26, 2010 22:58:40 GMT -5
This isn't 1985 anymore. Wanting to get started early and progress toward something that you feel is the more important endeavor gets you future endeavored? Talk about stupid and petty. How is that petty? It's a sign of honour for the guy to keep his word. If anything, it's the opposite of petty, as WWE is doing those indie feds who booked Claudio a favour by allowing him to work the shows and draw a crowd. You really think that's worth firing a guy without even giving him a chance? Isn't that going against THEIR own word along those same lines of logic? |
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Nov 26, 2010 22:59:32 GMT -5
I have a question: is there a possibility that Claudio would get signed by WWE again?
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Nov 26, 2010 23:07:12 GMT -5
I recall Cornette mentioning a similar situation with the fake Undertaker from '94, where Vince was interested in hiring Brian Lee for a longer deal until Lee said he'd drop out of his commitments to Smoky Mountain Wrestling in order to sign up with WWF sooner, which pissed McMahon off.
I can see the reasoning. If a guy's going to renege on his promises to someone else because you offered him a better deal, who's to say he won't do the same thing to you sometime down the line?
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