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Post by JMA on Oct 12, 2010 19:43:31 GMT -5
I don't mean just worked MMA matches or "super serious" as ROH is, I mean something that uses MMA elements but is still recognizably pro wrestling. Maybe something similar to UWF International, but based in the US.
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Post by James McCloud IS John Godot on Oct 12, 2010 19:48:32 GMT -5
I doubt it. Wrestling fans won't make it a major draw by themselves and MMA fans wouldn't touch it as it would be instantly tainted with pro wrestling stink.
Not to say there isn't an audience for a niche indie product similar to this but you're not going to get rich off it.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Oct 12, 2010 19:50:49 GMT -5
Like PRIDE? It wouldn't work unless the matches were presented as real, but weren't. Which was what PRIDE was. A worked -shoot promotion.
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Post by lizardking on Oct 12, 2010 19:52:50 GMT -5
Like PRIDE? It wouldn't work unless the matches were presented as real, but weren't. Which was what PRIDE was. A worked -shoot promotion. I hope this was a joke. Or a mis-type. |
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Post by Kash Flagg on Oct 12, 2010 19:55:36 GMT -5
Like PRIDE? It wouldn't work unless the matches were presented as real, but weren't. Which was what PRIDE was. A worked -shoot promotion. I hope this was a joke. Or a mis-type. The latter. I was thinking of Pancrase. |
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Oct 12, 2010 20:02:13 GMT -5
Evolve?
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Post by James McCloud IS John Godot on Oct 12, 2010 20:09:32 GMT -5
EVOLVE has some nice stuff going for it, but it isn't done in shoot-style. |
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Post by sweatpants on Oct 12, 2010 20:10:12 GMT -5
Although not American, I think it was WXW in Germany that recently did a shoot-style tourny with Bryan Danielson and TJ Perkins.
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Post by JMA on Oct 12, 2010 20:18:18 GMT -5
I was actually thinking more like UWFi.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Oct 12, 2010 22:57:56 GMT -5
Not really because MMA fans won't buy into fake shoot fighting. UWFI worked because no other company was doing that style of fighting at the time.
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Post by hajimenoippo on Oct 13, 2010 1:00:17 GMT -5
Just watch minowaman or takada mma matches
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Post by ShaolinHandLock on Oct 13, 2010 1:05:57 GMT -5
I hope this was a joke. Or a mis-type. The latter. I was thinking of Pancrase. Pancrase isn't a worked shoot company either..... I mean, they did have some worked shoots in their early days, but it's still a shoot company..... Just watch minowaman or takada mma matches Minowa's fights aren't worked. And only Takada's wins were worked, his losses weren't. |
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Post by johnpricesuperstar on Oct 13, 2010 3:59:31 GMT -5
It would involve the following things
-No running the ropes
-High injury rate of workers
-not family/fan friendly. It would be a mongrel product.
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Post by JMA on Oct 13, 2010 15:10:30 GMT -5
Not really because MMA fans won't buy into fake shoot fighting. I disagree. There's clearly a viewer relationship between MMA and wrestling. MMA fans might not admit it, but I bet many of them watch wrestling and wish it was more like MMA--in fact, I bet many MMA fans were wrestling fans back in the 90's but left after the creative decline. No wrestling company is doing it right now, though. |
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Post by JMA on Oct 13, 2010 15:11:45 GMT -5
-High injury rate of workers I'm not so sure about that. After all, there'd be a lot less hardcore matches and big bumps. |
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Post by Kick Your Face on Oct 13, 2010 15:14:37 GMT -5
The latter. I was thinking of Pancrase. Pancrase isn't a worked shoot company either..... I mean, they did have some worked shoots in their early days, but it's still a shoot company..... Haha. He might be thinking of RINGS. A huge portion of the 90s were worked. BattlARTS shows that it can work. The shows don't draw well but they are great. |
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Post by JMA on Oct 13, 2010 15:26:00 GMT -5
I kind of like the idea of a promotion with mostly worked matches but a few shoot ones. keep the fans guessing. And I tend to agree with Jim Cornette that anything that makes wrestling look more real and legit is good.
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Post by Real Folk Bruce on Oct 14, 2010 0:45:23 GMT -5
Something like this right?
*Language Warning in the opening text!*
Yeah I always love that stuff. It's very different.
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Post by aiwrestling on Oct 14, 2010 1:50:47 GMT -5
Pro Wrestling is Pro Wrestling, Shoot is MMA or High school/college style I believe there was a attempt at something called "Real Pro Wrestling" or something like that a few years back which was just amateur wrestling and it failed badly
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Post by Bald Bull on Oct 14, 2010 2:32:37 GMT -5
Pro Wrestling is Pro Wrestling, Shoot is MMA or High school/college style I believe there was a attempt at something called "Real Pro Wrestling" or something like that a few years back which was just amateur wrestling and it failed badly That's because amateur wrestling is boring as hell. (said the greco roman all american) |
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