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Post by Alex Shelley on Jan 27, 2011 1:18:27 GMT -5
I want to shave a penis into the back of my head and wear a hat to court. Then when they tell me to take the hat off, I will. ...I just think it'd be funny to see their reactions
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Jan 27, 2011 1:23:35 GMT -5
I want to shave a penis into the back of my head and wear a hat to court. Then when they tell me to take the hat off, I will. ...I just think it'd be funny to see their reactions Why do I feel like I've known you all my life? And is there a special kind of hell people like us go to when we die?
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Post by A/C Carcass on Jan 27, 2011 1:27:53 GMT -5
The Rosa Parks comparison that has been brought up actually is valid. She could have easily obeyed the stupid rule and not made a big fuss about it, just like this guy with his hat. Also, I don't think this guy was trying to be a martyr, like some people in this thread have said. He was just quietly sitting there and then the bailiff got in his face and the police threw him down. Damien Valley said it best Would it have been easier to take his hat off? Sure, but it also would have been even easier if they hadn't bothered him with a silly little old time Victorian rule. How can someone get arrested for this?
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Post by Alex Shelley on Jan 27, 2011 1:45:12 GMT -5
I want to shave a penis into the back of my head and wear a hat to court. Then when they tell me to take the hat off, I will. ...I just think it'd be funny to see their reactions Why do I feel like I've known you all my life? And is there a special kind of hell people like us go to when we die? Think about that for a second. If it's full of people like us, how could it POSSIBLY be hell?
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Jan 27, 2011 1:59:49 GMT -5
Why do I feel like I've known you all my life? And is there a special kind of hell people like us go to when we die? Think about that for a second. If it's full of people like us, how could it POSSIBLY be hell? Touché, my fellow hat-loving friend. Touché.
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Jan 27, 2011 2:08:16 GMT -5
Requesting that people follow accepted and completely harmless courtroom decorum lest they face the consequences is a sign of corruption...? Mmkay... That harmless courtroom decorum needs to be amended to the 21st century. We're basing rules on social standards from over a hundred years ago. That's the point. The court is within its rights to enforce their rules. But the rules in question (this one) are stupid and in desperate need of amendment to suit the times. Hats are part of overall clothing ensemble now, and in no way convey disrespect. Most are designed to wear indoors. This ain't your grandad's rain-drenched fedora here. It's an accent to your outfit. (I say this as a perpetual hat-wearer). I find the whole thing absurd. I like to think that the dude's bald/balding and doesn't want his frazzled dome exposed. I wouldn’t. Let's call it the Heyman law. Some dudes should just keep hats on for the betterment of human civilization. I will say that despite my thinking that the court and officers were justified in what they did, I do agree with this. You just have to pick the right way to go about the change and throwing a hissy fit in the middle of a court room isn't the way to go about it.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Jan 27, 2011 2:34:35 GMT -5
That harmless courtroom decorum needs to be amended to the 21st century. We're basing rules on social standards from over a hundred years ago. That's the point. The court is within its rights to enforce their rules. But the rules in question (this one) are stupid and in desperate need of amendment to suit the times. Hats are part of overall clothing ensemble now, and in no way convey disrespect. Most are designed to wear indoors. This ain't your grandad's rain-drenched fedora here. It's an accent to your outfit. (I say this as a perpetual hat-wearer). I find the whole thing absurd. I like to think that the dude's bald/balding and doesn't want his frazzled dome exposed. I wouldn’t. Let's call it the Heyman law. Some dudes should just keep hats on for the betterment of human civilization. I will say that despite my thinking that the court and officers were justified in what they did, I do agree with this. You just have to pick the right way to go about the change and throwing a hissy fit in the middle of a court room isn't the way to go about it. What is the right way? Also who threw the hissy fit? The guy wearing a hat or the guys who cuffed him and put him in a cage?
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Jan 27, 2011 2:51:10 GMT -5
That harmless courtroom decorum needs to be amended to the 21st century. We're basing rules on social standards from over a hundred years ago. That's the point. The court is within its rights to enforce their rules. But the rules in question (this one) are stupid and in desperate need of amendment to suit the times. Hats are part of overall clothing ensemble now, and in no way convey disrespect. Most are designed to wear indoors. This ain't your grandad's rain-drenched fedora here. It's an accent to your outfit. (I say this as a perpetual hat-wearer). I find the whole thing absurd. I like to think that the dude's bald/balding and doesn't want his frazzled dome exposed. I wouldn’t. Let's call it the Heyman law. Some dudes should just keep hats on for the betterment of human civilization. I will say that despite my thinking that the court and officers were justified in what they did, I do agree with this. You just have to pick the right way to go about the change and throwing a hissy fit in the middle of a court room isn't the way to go about it. Agreed. While I don't necessarily see the need to be rid of the rule in question, whether it's antiquated or not, there are better ways of going about getting change then acting like an ass for a Youtube video. Shoot... without going into detail... a lot of folk in my hometown were upset about something and so they campaigned and pressured various politicians until the local government gave in and did what they wanted; if enough people in New Hampshire feel the same in regards to the hat thing, I'm sure they can do the same... and keep their dignity in the bargain.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Jan 27, 2011 2:59:06 GMT -5
Why's he wearing a hat indoors? Is he afraid of those sudden indoor rain-storms?
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Post by Alex Shelley on Jan 27, 2011 3:10:08 GMT -5
Pffft, indoors shmindoors. I SLEEP in hats.
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Post by Jobes on Jan 27, 2011 9:44:06 GMT -5
One day this man's hat will be in the Civil Rights museum. When coming to its display my grandson will look at me with bright, wondering eyes and say, "Grandpa, this is just a hat. What's so special about it?" Choking back tears I'll say, "Little Robert... let me tell you about a brave soul who kept his head covered for our individual freedom!" Then, I WON'T remove my hat to pay respect.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2011 11:28:03 GMT -5
Does anyone know what type of hat the guy was wearing? For all we know it could have said "F*** You" on it.
Regardless the guy and the cameraman are still complete idiots.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Jan 27, 2011 11:51:58 GMT -5
Does anyone know what type of hat the guy was wearing? For all we know it could have said "F*** You" on it. Regardless the guy and the cameraman are still complete idiots. It said "Don't Tread On Me" which I'm sure is more than half the reason they told him to take it off.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 27, 2011 12:13:56 GMT -5
You keep using this term in multiple threads. This seems like an attempt to skirt the political line as close as possible.
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Post by hollywood on Jan 27, 2011 12:16:25 GMT -5
I can just imagine, many long years from now, when this heroic hat-wearing crusader passes on and enters the pearly gates, where he meets Martin Luther King, Jr.
HAT GUY: Dude!! You totally inspired me to stand up for my civil rights! MLK: Really? That's great. What happened? HAT GUY: These cops totally tried to make me take my hat off in court, but I stood up for myself. Got arrested but it was worth it! How about you? MLK: ......I was shot in the face while speaking out against racism and segregation.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 27, 2011 12:17:26 GMT -5
I want to shave a penis into the back of my head and wear a hat to court. Then when they tell me to take the hat off, I will. ...I just think it'd be funny to see their reactions They'd either send the baliff over to shave your head, or just have you removed from the room.
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Post by Rococo on Jan 27, 2011 14:13:18 GMT -5
Haha @ the notion that judges are 'god's; they deserve no more respect than anyone else, they're simply there to place the final judgement and they're certainly not equatable to a deity. As it has been mentioned before, whilst the man in question could have removed his hat to save himself this inconvenience, this antiquated and rather arbitrary rule shouldn't even be in place. Why is removing ones hat a sign of respect? What is it - specifically - about that article of clothing that signifies disrespect? The court proceedings would play out were he wearing a hat or not. Arbitrary and unnecessary laws like this are all too common, unfortunately - this video is evidence that these laws should be expelled as they have no place in a progressive society. The court is a judge's domain, they can have whatever rules they like. Perhaps the judge is old fashioned, perhaps the judge deals with enough court cases to make your head spin and does not like seeing people in his courtroom look undignified, perhaps he feels that if everyone has a certain attire, the proceedings will be more seamless if everyone is wearing proper attire. It does not matter. If the judge wants it a certain way, it shall be that way. I think there are some looking too far into this as some sort of rights issue when it isn't, it is just some idiot looking to make a point by disrespecting the will of the court and getting arrested for it. Yes, yes, I understand that the courts have the final ruling and I have even conceded that the guy probably should have removed the hat to save himself the headache but he didn't and now he has brought to light something that should become a part of popular discourse; why - exactly - are these arbitrary, antiquated laws still in place? Why is it disrespectful to wear a hat in a court setting, or at a wedding, or at church etc.? These laws don't come from nowhere; humans put them in place. Just as humans have defined gender roles - for example, we have also put in place all of these silly and unnecessary laws and so it is our duty to question them when they don't make sense. I am not content with, it's the law and that's that - something being illegal doesn't make it "wrong" or "immoral", it just means that it was made illegal for whatever reason (quite like how marijuana was made illegal for its ties to Mexico, when it is less dangerous and addictive than alcohol and tobacco... but that is another debate). If someone can give me a legitimate reason for why removing a hat is necessary in a courtroom (or otherwise), I'd love to hear it, and I'm not being facetious.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Jan 27, 2011 14:54:37 GMT -5
you can take video recording equipment into court? It's usually up to the court. If you aren't allowed to it usually becomes a free press issue and the courts don't like lawsuits over that because they usually can't win. Here is another angle clearly showing a cop forcing his knee into the guys neck. Wow...just, wow. Okay, here we go. That officer originally places his knee on the suspect's left shoulder. Rather gently, I'd say. At which point, the suspect jerks to the left. Therefore, the officer drops his knee down, where the suspect's neck now is. What that officer did was react to the suspect's actions. If that suspect hadn't resisted, then that officer's knee would've remained on his left shoulder. Now, granted, it's never a good idea to put any pressure on a suspect's neck. However, that suspect was still speaking calmly, therefore there was no obstruction to his airway, breathing, or circulation. The suspect didn't have a problem with that officer's knee being on his neck, therefore we can guess that there wassn't much pain being caused. So, after we actually studied the video, we can come to the conclusion that the knee being on the neck is a result of the suspect's sudden resistance to the handcuffing procedure.
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Post by FHgrad99 on Jan 28, 2011 3:12:10 GMT -5
This was the first thing I thought of when I saw this thread title.
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