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Post by mrobert21 on Jun 3, 2006 22:45:45 GMT -5
I want Richard Dean Anderson in ECW only if he gets in there with New Jack and gets Eric Kulased. That dick Anderson, ruined Stargete because it was too much trouble for him to go to Vancouver to film the show. He was lucky to have work since it took him a decade after McGyver ended to find work. At least moron Michael Shanks realized he was a loser after 1 year away from the show and came crawling back. Preacking to the luving choir on Atlantis and fake Battlestar. How do you make a spin off of a show by taking 2 minor part time characters from the original and saying you are stars now (kind of like new ECW)? David Hewlett = Adrew "Test" Martin and Torri Higginson = Kevin "Mordecai" Fertig. What is that crap Battlestar without the greatest heel of the last century, John Colicos? Yeah, Stargate sucks without Anderson. All we have is the blonde girl and the freakin' alien with a taste for mascera. I haven't watched it since they had the whole 'New Replicator' angle (heh, I like how I'm treating it like a wrestling storyline). I stopped watching Battlestar when I realized that they took out what pretty much made the original for me - killer robots. Instead you have people that are actually robots, but are just human actors. Whoopee. The episode where the Jaffa win their freedom and the Replicators and Anubis are defeated should have been the series finale. Carter and O'Neill retire to his pond to fish and f***, Teal'c becomes Jaffa leader, and Shanks Ascends into his closet (I still do not get the dumb ascending crap). Like Roddy Piper, they do not know when to quit. I quit watching the last episode before the season where dumb ass Beau Bridges started. The new replicator angle sucked ass. Like Cylons, cool robots are turned into lame English actors. It is just done to save production costs. Original robot Replicators and Cylons ruled the f***ing universe,and I treat everything in life like a wrestling angle, not just science fiction.
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Jun 3, 2006 22:48:14 GMT -5
I understand the cost-cutting measures, but ... Killer Robots = ratings. Battlestar is just one giant flop, to me. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks so. I'm interested in your opinions on Farscape and Firefly.
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Post by mrobert21 on Jun 3, 2006 23:18:21 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more, the lack of buildup for this match leaves me with nothing else to say about it. I'll have more to say next week after SD and the day of the PPV. Another match that I want to get into, is Tazz vs. Lawler. This match (if you want to call it that) wasn't even that great in 2000 when Tazz was in ring shape and I don't see it lasting no more than a minute or two tops. I hope they have some matches that are ECW wrestlers vs. ECW wrestlers, because the whole InVasion of ECW by WWE superstars has been played out for years. We beat Rey / Sabu to death like the dead horse it is. We will have more on it Monday or Tuesday. The problem with ECW wrestlers is there really are none left since all the good ones have gone WWF or to another company by now. It never gets talked about , but what killed the business in 1993 and could kill it in the next 2 years is that everyone has worked everyone else and there are no fresh match ups. I agree with ECW wrestlers versus ECW wrestlers, but it ain't happenning. At least WWF ized ECW wrestlers need to do their ECW gimmicks like Jericho did last year. What made me go nuts over the awesome One Night Stand 1 was all the ECW stuff I did not know about showing me something new. This year we get Cena, Edge, Foley, Angle, Rey, doing the same crap they have done every Monday for a decade. Here are 5 reasons why Tazz and Lawler will reach negative 3 stars. 1. It will last 5 minutes. Lawler will do 2 minutes of microphone work recycled from 1996. Tazz's music hits and he slowly walks to the ring for 2 minutes. Lawler hits crappy punches, Tazz ducks, hits release suplex, puts on Kajagoogoome (I love calling Tazzmission that), and Lawler taps in a minute. 2. Tazz can not bump. Since no smark ever wants to accept it I will scream it once for eternity to make a point. TAZZ HAS A MOTHER f***ING BROKEN NECK THAT WILL NEVER HEAL EVER!!!!! His career ended not, due to politics, it ended because if Tazz takes another back bump he will end up like Droz. 3. Lawler has no rub to give. In the past year he wrestled 1 time on Raw where he jobbed to Coach. They do not let him wear his trunks on the air any more because they do not want fans to think there is a chance of Lawler stinkink up the ring. Lawaler will do the job, so the rest of the night McMahon can screw ECW and say, hey Lawler gave you a rub knowing full well Lawler had none to give (Lawler is not even a heel now). 4. It was already done and sucked dick. God that meaningless 2000 program was the drizzling shits. It was a test of Tazz's loyalty as a company guy to prove he deserved a commentator job. Since then, all they have done is be catty towards each other like 2 high school bitches. 5. Most important, they loathe each other. Fans always think matches between 2 guys with heat will be great because they are a shoot (Hardy / Edge 2004, Hart / Michaels 1997, Hogan / Savage 1998, et cetera). They always are mediocre or suck because neither guy wants to make the other guy look good or even start shooting. If they shoot they might get their ass kicked on air or off air and they might get fired, so they just go through the motions as quick as possible.
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Post by WHATAMANOOOVER on Jun 3, 2006 23:50:32 GMT -5
Anyone looking for a ***** classic from Tazz/Lawler has got to be a tool. It will be good for what it is, Lawler (the anti-ECWchrist) getting choked the F! out by Taz who will return to his asskicking self for this night. If it's anything else, great but expecting anything but that will only set up for dissapointment.
I'm really looking forward to the event, as always, the crowd will be the hottest of any WWE crowd this side of 'Mania.
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Post by mrobert21 on Jun 3, 2006 23:52:05 GMT -5
I understand the cost-cutting measures, but ... Killer Robots = ratings. Battlestar is just one giant flop, to me. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks so. I'm interested in your opinions on Farscape and Firefly. Never watch Galactica 1980 if you hate cost cutting shows because that crap was uglier than the dumb current Galactica. I love the episode of A -Team where Face / Starbuck is standing on a movie set and a Culon walks be and he gives it a look like hey, don't I know you from some place. I will not bag on Farscape or Firefly because I have never watched either to have an informed opinion. I saw 2 minutes of a Firely and thought it was dull and Farscape seems to be too odd and have too many non American actors for me. I like old school sci fi and wrestling. I like sci fi and wrestling with some foundation in reality. In both cases I do not waste my time with stuff that looke weak. I never even liked SG1 for years, but it was on when I got home from work, so I watched it all the time by accident and got used to it. I like Star Trek, Next Generation, and Deep Space 9 until they killed the real Dax at the end of season 6 because that c*** slut Nana Vistor was jealous of Terry Farrell and she and her punk Siddig El - Farril threatened to leave if Terry got renewed. Voyager and Enterprise suck balls worse than John Cena. Buffy from Joss Whedon was good until the end of season 3 when they took a 6 month hiatus before showing part 2 of Graduation Day, though the show had jumped the Shark after they brought back Angel for his own dumb ass spin off after having killed him in the most dramatic piece of episodic sci fi television ever. Then when they were supposed to show the second part of the episode I long awaited they delayed it for a month because little bastards in trench coats decided to shoot up their high school, so I quit Buffy cold turkey (it was a ratings gimmick, not victim sympathy and real life murders have nothing to do with a high school principal becoming a big snake). Starship Troopers rules all science fiction movies, but anything Paul Verhoeven does is good (Robocop, Total Recall). Blade 1 kicked 19 asses and had a line of asses around the block to kick, Blade 2 was mediocre, and Blade 3 was worse than watching that Jackie Gayda match (when Triple H is the best actor is a film, we have problems). John Carpenter's Vampires was good as was most of his stuff (Escape From New York, Ghosts Of Mars). All 3 new Star Wars movies sucked ass as did every Star Trek movie after First Contact.
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Jun 4, 2006 0:02:23 GMT -5
I understand the cost-cutting measures, but ... Killer Robots = ratings. Battlestar is just one giant flop, to me. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks so. I'm interested in your opinions on Farscape and Firefly. Never watch Galactica 1980 if you hate cost cutting shows because that crap was uglier than the dumb current Galactica. I love the episode of A -Team where Face / Starbuck is standing on a movie set and a Culon walks be and he gives it a look like hey, don't I know you from some place. I will not bag on Farscape or Firefly because I have never watched either to have an informed opinion. I saw 2 minutes of a Firely and thought it was dull and Farscape seems to be too odd and have too many non American actors for me. I like old school sci fi and wrestling. I like sci fi and wrestling with some foundation in reality. In both cases I do not waste my time with stuff that looke weak. I never even liked SG1 for years, but it was on when I got home from work, so I watched it all the time by accident and got used to it. I like Star Trek, Next Generation, and Deep Space 9 until they killed the real Dax at the end of season 6 because that This Poster Loves Mustard very *friendly* person Nana Vistor was jealous of Terry Farrell and she and her punk Siddig El - Farril threatened to leave if Terry got renewed. Voyager and Enterprise suck balls worse than John Cena. Buffy from Joss Whedon was good until the end of season 3 when they took a 6 month hiatus before showing part 2 of Graduation Day, though the show had jumped the Shark after they brought back Angel for his own dumb ass spin off after having killed him in the most dramatic piece of episodic sci fi television ever. Then when they were supposed to show the second part of the episode I long awaited they delayed it for a month because little bastards in trench coats decided to shoot up their high school, so I quit Buffy cold turkey (it was a ratings gimmick, not victim sympathy and real life murders have nothing to do with a high school principal becoming a big snake). Starship Troopers rules all science fiction movies, but anything Paul Verhoeven does is good (Robocop, Total Recall). Blade 1 kicked 19 asses and had a line of asses around the block to kick, Blade 2 was mediocre, and Blade 3 was worse than watching that Jackie Gayda match (when Triple H is the best actor is a film, we have problems). John Carpenter's Vampires was good as was most of his stuff (Escape From New York, Ghosts Of Mars). All 3 new Star Wars movies sucked ass as did every Star Trek movie after First Contact. Hey, man, you're alright. I agree, Troopers is great on several levels. And I stopped watching Buffy when they brought in the freakin' CYBORG in for Season 5. I had gotten sick of it after the whole Faith/Buffy feud ended, but that was the killer for me. I was a fan of Deep Space 9. It wasn't as good as Next Gen, but it had some solid characters. Unlike Voyager, who's main draw was the female Borg in the painted-on bodysuit (not enough of a draw for me to suffer through Capt. Janeway and the BLACK VULCAN), and Enterprise, which somehow managed to not have a single compelling cast member in an entire crew. I've found that a lot of people find Farscape hard to get into, for several reasons. First, it really is off the wall, and has a LOT of wierd looking characters. Second, it was filmed in New Zealand, so most of the characters have Kiwi accents, especially the walk-ons. And Firefly is really a love-it-or-hate-it thing. Low-tech sci-fi isn't for everyone.
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Post by mrobert21 on Jun 4, 2006 1:23:33 GMT -5
Never watch Galactica 1980 if you hate cost cutting shows because that crap was uglier than the dumb current Galactica. I love the episode of A -Team where Face / Starbuck is standing on a movie set and a Culon walks be and he gives it a look like hey, don't I know you from some place. I will not bag on Farscape or Firefly because I have never watched either to have an informed opinion. I saw 2 minutes of a Firely and thought it was dull and Farscape seems to be too odd and have too many non American actors for me. I like old school sci fi and wrestling. I like sci fi and wrestling with some foundation in reality. In both cases I do not waste my time with stuff that looke weak. I never even liked SG1 for years, but it was on when I got home from work, so I watched it all the time by accident and got used to it. I like Star Trek, Next Generation, and Deep Space 9 until they killed the real Dax at the end of season 6 because that This Poster Loves Mustard very *friendly* person Nana Vistor was jealous of Terry Farrell and she and her punk Siddig El - Farril threatened to leave if Terry got renewed. Voyager and Enterprise suck balls worse than John Cena. Buffy from Joss Whedon was good until the end of season 3 when they took a 6 month hiatus before showing part 2 of Graduation Day, though the show had jumped the Shark after they brought back Angel for his own dumb ass spin off after having killed him in the most dramatic piece of episodic sci fi television ever. Then when they were supposed to show the second part of the episode I long awaited they delayed it for a month because little bastards in trench coats decided to shoot up their high school, so I quit Buffy cold turkey (it was a ratings gimmick, not victim sympathy and real life murders have nothing to do with a high school principal becoming a big snake). Starship Troopers rules all science fiction movies, but anything Paul Verhoeven does is good (Robocop, Total Recall). Blade 1 kicked 19 asses and had a line of asses around the block to kick, Blade 2 was mediocre, and Blade 3 was worse than watching that Jackie Gayda match (when Triple H is the best actor is a film, we have problems). John Carpenter's Vampires was good as was most of his stuff (Escape From New York, Ghosts Of Mars). All 3 new Star Wars movies sucked ass as did every Star Trek movie after First Contact. Hey, man, you're alright. I agree, Troopers is great on several levels. And I stopped watching Buffy when they brought in the freakin' CYBORG in for Season 5. I had gotten sick of it after the whole Faith/Buffy feud ended, but that was the killer for me. I was a fan of Deep Space 9. It wasn't as good as Next Gen, but it had some solid characters. Unlike Voyager, who's main draw was the female Borg in the painted-on bodysuit (not enough of a draw for me to suffer through Capt. Janeway and the BLACK VULCAN), and Enterprise, which somehow managed to not have a single compelling cast member in an entire crew. I've found that a lot of people find Farscape hard to get into, for several reasons. First, it really is off the wall, and has a LOT of wierd looking characters. Second, it was filmed in New Zealand, so most of the characters have Kiwi accents, especially the walk-ons. And Firefly is really a love-it-or-hate-it thing. Low-tech sci-fi isn't for everyone. You are pretty all right yourself. I heard about the Buffy Cyborgs and they sounded dumb. I always loathed the Faith character and was pure pissed when Dru killed Kendra. I would f*** Eliza Dukshu until my dick fell off, then go out to buy another dick to keep doing it, but a heel slayer was always weak to me. Deep Space Nine sucked until they started the Dominion stuff. They always wanted Cardassians as top heels, but they lost all credibility after jobbing to the Enterprise with Ronny Cox in guest command. I liked Garak the best because he was marvelously sleazy. Captain Kate was the worst f***ing Captian ever and 7 of 9 is over rated (I would rather f*** the real Dax). Low tech Sci Fi is fine with me. I like V and that is as low tech as it gets (Michael Ironside is god). Predator and Predator 2 rule and that is low tech (hate AVP though). Aliens is low tech and I like that (I hate the other 3 Alien movies though, Sigourney Weaver sucks, Michael Biehn rules).
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Post by suntannedsuperman on Jun 4, 2006 7:34:05 GMT -5
DEAN MALENKO vs ANGLE ECW Alumnus it works
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Post by mrobert21 on Jun 4, 2006 15:15:07 GMT -5
DEAN MALENKO vs ANGLE ECW Alumnus it works Not really since Malenko never worked in an 8 sided ring, has not worked in a 6 sided ring for over a decade (he might have worked in 1 in Mexico), and not worked in a 4 sided ring for 6 years. It is obviously a TNA guy, but McMahon does not want to put TNA over by saying TNA. It is not a UFC guy because all their top guys have exclusive contracts.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Jun 4, 2006 15:20:13 GMT -5
Shannon Moore? I can hope.........but I am thinking the big cliff hanger over the spot is not going to be him.
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Post by Luca on Jun 4, 2006 18:13:26 GMT -5
When Sabu wins, the bWo should come down, steal the belt and spray paint the world title.
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Post by mrobert21 on Jun 4, 2006 18:23:03 GMT -5
Shannon Moore? I can hope.........but I am thinking the big cliff hanger over the spot is not going to be him. I considered him, but he would make no impact and get booed or Conwayed. I think it has to be somebody they are thinking of long term whether they have a full time deal yet or not. BWO is done. Nova is being kept away from new ECW. Meanie will not be hired due to JBL heat.
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Jun 4, 2006 18:28:02 GMT -5
What exactly will Sandman be doing at ONS2? ... will he have a match, if so who against?
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Jun 4, 2006 20:02:08 GMT -5
What exactly will Sandman be doing at ONS2? ... will he have a match, if so who against? Just as long as he comes out drunk off his ass and does body shots off of some whore before caning someone, I'm happy. That said, Sandman doesn't seem to win a lot of matches. I've looked at his record on Obsessedwithwrestling, and he definately comes out on the losing end more often than not ..
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jun 4, 2006 21:08:18 GMT -5
I've noticed over the years that fans follow certain trends ("TWO" count from Montreal at NWO 2003, WCW fans throwing trash at BATB 96, then at every Nitro afterwards), maybe if the "You're not Eddie" thing comes to life, or the ECW fans pelting the ring with trash in disgust, then the WWE fans can follow suit, though I strongly doubt it with Vince's heavies plodding around the arenas.
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Post by EZ: Brainy Bae on Jun 4, 2006 21:19:57 GMT -5
Strangely enough, the only time I can remember a WWE/F ring pelted with garbage was Wrestlemania 200 when HH retained. All the garbage made me love the moment even more though.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jun 4, 2006 21:23:20 GMT -5
Strangely enough, the only time I can remember a WWE/F ring pelted with garbage was Wrestlemania 200 when HH retained. All the garbage made me love the moment even more though. Lol, I remember that and I was watching it with some friends and silence fell over the room when that happened. I have a show from WWE 24/7 where George Steele beats Hulk Hogan by countout in St.Louis,MO 8/10/84 and the crowd comes unglued, as the ring was pelted with garbage and the ref/Finkel caught a few drinks to the face..hard. The fans at the time weren't too smart yet, as when they saw Steele's hand raised, probably thought he was the new champion. Depending on what happens next Sunday, the ECW fans might just go nuts and starting chucking stuff to the ring, maybe a few chairs here and there,lol.
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Post by mrobert21 on Jun 4, 2006 21:30:27 GMT -5
I've noticed over the years that fans follow certain trends ("TWO" count from Montreal at NWO 2003, WCW fans throwing trash at BATB 96, then at every Nitro afterwards), maybe if the "You're not Eddie" thing comes to life, or the ECW fans pelting the ring with trash in disgust, then the WWE fans can follow suit, though I strongly doubt it with Vince's heavies plodding around the arenas. I want to come out strongly against the pelting of rings with garbage. If you have to stab Cena, well you have to do (just kidding) what you have to do, but pelting rings with garbage is crap. I remember in 1996 I would flick the channel past WCW when I was not watching wrestling and every time I saw them throwing garbage. I would have been into WCW before 1998 and ECW before 2001 if it was not for garbage throwing. It is disrespectful to other fans who get pelted with more crap than what hits the ring. It is disrespectful to wrestlers who put their lives on the line. It looks really minor league to fans watching at home. McMahon hires lots of good security so his events do not usually have it, but if ECW is just Atlas Security it might happen there. Sandman will suck beer off of a girl's tits (and Dreamer's) like last year and he will job. It is law.
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Post by skullman80 on Jun 4, 2006 22:22:22 GMT -5
Dreamer bleeding like a stuck pig and/or taking a nut shot is pretty much a gurantee too.
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Post by Friday Night Kearney! on Jun 4, 2006 23:17:45 GMT -5
ECW to win the WWE Hardcore title & rename it ECW World title
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