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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2011 8:31:29 GMT -5
I like some of their songs. Not really something I'd listen to that often, as my Ipod would atest to.
Also, arguing over why one likes or dislikes a band is a waste of time. One thing worse than arguing that one isn't a fan of something correctly is saying that one isn't a fan of something correctly.
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Post by @TenaciousBe on Jul 24, 2011 8:39:42 GMT -5
Must say, I'm pleasantly surprised at the lack of extreme blind hatred towards the band in this thread. Good job, Crappers That said... Creed was, without a doubt, "my band" throughout the early 00s. One big reason is because my best friend introduced them to me, they really became our dual favorite band over the course of 99-00 when we were roommates after high school. In late 2000, he was in a car accident and passed away, and Creed's music is one of the biggest things that helped me keep it together during those rough next couple of years. I followed Tremonti and the boys into Alter Bridge (which became my new "MY band"), and through the two bands and the various message boards attached to them, I've met tons of cool people and some of the best friends I've had over the past decade. In fact, the first electric guitar I owned was an Alter Bridge - autographed PRS Tremonti SE that I won through AB's website in their early days, which inspired me to take up the craft and now I'm living my dream as a guitarist in a rock band (a small time rock band in a podunk little town, but a rock band nonetheless). Not to be melodramatic, but I really owe a s*** ton of my life to these two bands. That said, I hated Full Circle. I thought the music was subpar and I hated the fact that the AB guys went back on their word to "never" reform Creed. I'm fairly sure that it was done mostly for the money to keep Alter Bridge afloat, so for that I can accept it. But with the exception of a couple of songs (A Thousand Faces, Rain, On My Sleeve), I thought it was repetitive and sounded like a bunch of the rejected riff ideas that weren't good enough for ABIII. And not to spew venom, but I was kind of embarrassed as a fan when live videos of the reunion tour started to surface and Stapp couldn't hit his notes. They even finally released a live DVD, and it sounds like horseplop because of Stapp's voice. But, on the positive side, I did go see a couple of shows on the reunion tour and it definitely brought back all the chillls of seeing them live in their hayday. And I got to see them with my new best friend, whom I'd met through the AB forum, so that was a fantastically special moment to share with her. And it was a real treat to finally get to see Erock (Eric Friedman) up on stage with Tremonti -- he's been Mark's "little brother" for much of this past decade and it was awesome to see him as a guest rhythm guitarist on the Creed tour so Mark could do more of his lead stuff without killing the songs.
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Post by King Boo on Jul 24, 2011 11:44:19 GMT -5
With regards to the "don't tell me why I'm not a fan of such & such" sentiment that's been thrown around...
I think it stems from the fact that the ones who don't like things always seem to have this smug attitude of being cooler and better because they don't like something. Like, congrats. Your disdain for something makes you so awesome.
Almost no one ever ever voices their dislike for something in a non-offensive way, ever. It's always something along the lines of "that shit is f***ing terrible" "pure tripe" "I don't understand how anyone can like that garbage" "that's not real [music, tv, reading material, WHATEVER]." It's all dripping with elitist, judgmental attitudes.
If you talk that way, you certainly can't be surprised when someone comes back irritated. That's why it's worded that way in the first place right? You said it either as a means of looking down on others with a differing opinion (which will rightly piss them off) or to directly be insulting (which will rightly piss them off). It's not a crime to not dig something, but it's not a crime *to* like it, either.
Everybody's so effing angry and mean all the time.
As far as Creed goes with that - if you don't like their music for whatever your reasons, more power to you. But there was most definitely a thing that started swirling around where someone somewhere decided that Creed sucked and liking them meant you were a loser and people followed along. Maybe that's not why *you* dislike them, but it definitely happened.
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Post by The Ichi on Jul 24, 2011 12:11:41 GMT -5
With regards to the "don't tell me why I'm not a fan of such & such" sentiment that's been thrown around... I think it stems from the fact that the ones who don't like things always seem to have this smug attitude of being cooler and better because they don't like something. Like, congrats. Your disdain for something makes you so awesome. Almost no one ever ever voices their dislike for something in a non-offensive way, ever. It's always something along the lines of "that s*** is f***ing terrible" "pure tripe" "I don't understand how anyone can like that garbage" "that's not real [music, tv, reading material, WHATEVER]." It's all dripping with elitist, judgmental attitudes. If you talk that way, you certainly can't be surprised when someone comes back irritated. That's why it's worded that way in the first place right? You said it either as a means of looking down on others with a differing opinion (which will rightly piss them off) or to directly be insulting (which will rightly piss them off). It's not a crime to not dig something, but it's not a crime *to* like it, either. Everybody's so effing angry and mean all the time. As far as Creed goes with that - if you don't like their music for whatever your reasons, more power to you. But there was most definitely a thing that started swirling around where someone somewhere decided that Creed sucked and liking them meant you were a loser and people followed along. Maybe that's not why *you* dislike them, but it definitely happened. I see what you mean now, I think the acting angry about stuff you dislike can be blamed on two things: 1. An unfortunate side effect of internet anonymity. 2. The popularity of "angry reviewer" webshows like AVGN and Spoony. Otherwise, some people just enjoy being cynical for humour purposes. I'm myself guilty of that. Though I don't attack fanbases, that's off-limits (...okay, maybe TNA's).
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Post by @TenaciousBe on Jul 24, 2011 14:49:00 GMT -5
With regards to the "don't tell me why I'm not a fan of such & such" sentiment that's been thrown around... I think it stems from the fact that the ones who don't like things always seem to have this smug attitude of being cooler and better because they don't like something. Like, congrats. Your disdain for something makes you so awesome. Almost no one ever ever voices their dislike for something in a non-offensive way, ever. It's always something along the lines of "that s*** is f***ing terrible" "pure tripe" "I don't understand how anyone can like that garbage" "that's not real [music, tv, reading material, WHATEVER]." It's all dripping with elitist, judgmental attitudes. If you talk that way, you certainly can't be surprised when someone comes back irritated. That's why it's worded that way in the first place right? You said it either as a means of looking down on others with a differing opinion (which will rightly piss them off) or to directly be insulting (which will rightly piss them off). It's not a crime to not dig something, but it's not a crime *to* like it, either. Everybody's so effing angry and mean all the time. As far as Creed goes with that - if you don't like their music for whatever your reasons, more power to you. But there was most definitely a thing that started swirling around where someone somewhere decided that Creed sucked and liking them meant you were a loser and people followed along. Maybe that's not why *you* dislike them, but it definitely happened. Fantastically said. I think the same holds true for the Nickelback and TNA "popular to hate" phenomena as well.
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Post by Drink Up Me Cider on Jul 24, 2011 15:07:06 GMT -5
Well to answer the question, I liked My Sacrifice and Higher, and then I followed my interest in to Alter Bridge, and their first album is fantastic in my opinion. So yea, I bought Creed's greatest hits, which was pretty crap but they had some good songs, two or three.
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Post by vm88 on Jul 24, 2011 16:08:41 GMT -5
I'll admit, I had the Human Clay album when I was younger. I don't think it was mentioned here, but "Faceless Man" was a pretty good track off that album. "Bullets" off of the Weathered album was another good one, pretty intense for a Creed song.
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Post by @TenaciousBe on Jul 24, 2011 16:18:04 GMT -5
I'll admit, I had the Human Clay album when I was younger. I don't think it was mentioned here, but "Faceless Man" was a pretty good track off that album. "Bullets" off of the Weathered album was another good one, pretty intense for a Creed song. I used to go absolutely nuts when they'd kick off a show with Bullets and Freedom Fighter back to back like they do on the album. Those two songs together are just brutal.
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Post by Munkie91087 on Jul 24, 2011 16:52:47 GMT -5
I don't like Creed. I didn't like them when they were popular and I don't like them now that they're irrelevant. It has nothing to do with being "cool" to dislike them. I thought they were a Pearl Jam rip-off when they first got popular and they've never released a song that I personally liked. If people like them, that's fine it doesn't bother me. I just know that I always thought they sucked. It has nothing to do with disliking something just to be different.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 24, 2011 17:37:58 GMT -5
I always get a kick out of just about everyone proclaiming that they "always hated Creed". They were HUGE for a few years. They sold a ton of albums. Clearly, someone was buying their albums. (see also: Bizkit, Limp) Don't look at me I don't own a single album by either of those bands.
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Jul 24, 2011 18:09:55 GMT -5
I like Creed. Their first album is still one of my favorites. Sure, I felt they went downhill quality-wise after that, but so what? It happens to a lot of bands more often than we might like to admit.
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Post by MGH on Jul 24, 2011 18:14:34 GMT -5
I liked Creed when they were a big deal. Still like a song or two.
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Post by dlg3000 on Jul 24, 2011 18:29:44 GMT -5
I always get a kick out of just about everyone proclaiming that they "always hated Creed". They were HUGE for a few years. They sold a ton of albums. Clearly, someone was buying their albums. (see also: Bizkit, Limp) Aint it the truth! I like Creed. As others have said, musically, their incredible. And I really dont mind Scott Stapp. Him being a douche or not bears no meaning to me personally, so I could care less. Me neither.
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