Doctor Of Style
King Koopa
Well, first they love me, and then they don't. Sometimes they do it, and sometimes they won't.
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Post by Doctor Of Style on Feb 4, 2011 23:07:17 GMT -5
Yep, just like everything else on TV, and those cheesy reality shows you watch make wrestling look like Shakespeare by comparison.
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Post by Time Lord Soundwave on Feb 4, 2011 23:37:45 GMT -5
I'd just grab them by the tie, Vader-style. It's worth waking up in a Kuwaiti prison.
I love how Taker just sits there with no reaction.
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Post by Green Arrow on Feb 4, 2011 23:41:41 GMT -5
I have been known to offer to jump off a ladder/shed/etc onto them, then see how fake it is
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Post by DSR on Feb 4, 2011 23:52:46 GMT -5
If someone is genuinely interested in asking me why I like it, I'll explain it to them. But if they're just one of the "Oh, you know it's fake right? Haw haw haw" brigade I just respond with something like "You know Christian Bale isn't really Batman, right?" But Bale really IS Batman, so your argument is flawed.
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Post by basicxdugganomix on Feb 5, 2011 0:22:46 GMT -5
The people that get offended make us look like over agressive tools.
It is like the star wars nerds who go off on others
just basically ignore it
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Post by Hassan bin Sober on Feb 5, 2011 9:29:08 GMT -5
I have fixed feelings on this topic. When I was a kid I WAS one of those "Wrestling is dumb because it's fake" people. I didn't become a fan until 1998 when I was 17. Now I'm like everyone else here and get annoyed when people act like you're some idiot that doesn't realize that it's scripted. However at the same time I get annoyed when fellow wrestling fans focus on the fact that the pain/injuries are often times genuine in their defense of such accusations. Imagine if people who went to see Broadway plays had a stereotype of being morons who thought the plays were real. If you went to see such plays and someone said, "You know those are fake right?" would you reply with, "Actually that Spider-man actor really got hurt," or "Let's see you fall from the top of the stage"? It just cements the fact that wrestling fans think it is somehow reality. I also think it's ridiculous when people respond by putting people in wrestling holds. It's like if someone said they didn't like the Three Stooges so you start poking them in the eyes.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Feb 5, 2011 9:32:20 GMT -5
This has to be one of the funniest thread titles ever.
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erik316wttn
Samurai Cop
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Post by erik316wttn on Feb 5, 2011 9:40:12 GMT -5
Pre-determined? Yes. Fake? No.
Guss what: That really cool car chase you saw on TV last week? That was fake, too. That intense shootout between the bad guy and the cops you saw in that movie? Also fake. But did you enjoy it any less?
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Remix
Trap-Jaw
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Post by Remix on Feb 5, 2011 10:52:34 GMT -5
Your point?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2011 14:37:27 GMT -5
What the hell are you talking about fake? It's not fake. Those guys got bashed and bloodied. I've seen guys get pounded in the ring. I saw a guy pick up a trash can, smash it into a guy's head. Blood went everywhere I knew this shit wasn't fake!
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Post by pink on Feb 5, 2011 19:29:30 GMT -5
Much less of a dick response, but tell them about all the people who died in the ring.
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agent817
Fry's dog Seymour
Doesn't Know Whose Ring It Is
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Post by agent817 on Feb 5, 2011 19:40:14 GMT -5
You know, I just thought of something. I wonder what non-fans think of the fact that there are hundreds or thousands of fans at arenas of a show? Do some believe they are CGI or do they believe that they are paid to be there? Both theories sound stupid. Regardless of whether a show is taped or not, nothing could be made to look like actual people are at a live event, unless it was for a movie. As for the other one, like it's possible to pay lots of people to attend an event. The fact that a lot of fans attend it says that there are lots of fans out there.
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nisidhe
Hank Scorpio
O Superman....O judge....O Mom and Dad....
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Post by nisidhe on Feb 5, 2011 21:05:28 GMT -5
I`m not inclined to give anyone a free pass when it comes to that assertion. It`s existed in its current form for over a century and has been televised since television became widespread in the 50s. It`s woven into the culture and is part of the collective psyche. There`s no excuse now for making the comment, except as an attempt to pressure the fan to bury their enthusiasm or, if possible, to purge themselves of it entirely. Any sincere attempt to defend our fandom may come back on us as "Gee, I was only sayin', " as though we're now too serious about it.
Maybe I'm a little paranoid about this, but the haters' intent is to make us feel bad. Ripping a page from the Women's Lib playbook and extolling wrestling's virtues and success while questioning the hater's intelligence and understanding of various art forms should start this little annoying part of wrestling fandom down the path to history.
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Post by Stevie H on Feb 5, 2011 21:10:31 GMT -5
I just say "You watch soaps or movies dont you?".
If they mention it's guys in speedos, I go "Well I've been watching since I was young so I don't see the rude or homosexual vibes you're trying to put across".
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agent817
Fry's dog Seymour
Doesn't Know Whose Ring It Is
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Post by agent817 on Feb 6, 2011 1:29:47 GMT -5
If they mention it's guys in speedos, I go "Well I've been watching since I was young so I don't see the rude or homosexual vibes you're trying to put across". The thing that gets me about this one is the fact that even MMA fighters sometimes wear tight trunks. Sometimes, even MMA elitists try to tell us about half-naked men when MMA fighters are kind of the same thing. Kind of a double edged sword if you ask me.
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slashandburn
Team Rocket
Look Vegeta! A pokemon...I'm gonna catch it...
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Post by slashandburn on Feb 6, 2011 3:22:30 GMT -5
I curl up into the fetal position and begin violently weeping.
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Demented
Grimlock
Puddin'
Quinn in a box.
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Post by Demented on Feb 6, 2011 4:53:55 GMT -5
I look at them and say, "Really? Did you know Santa Clause is fake?"
Works wonders on children under the age of ten.
If said person is above the age of ten, I run away screaming like a school girl, "It's still real to me, dammit!"
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Post by Starshine on Feb 6, 2011 5:18:35 GMT -5
I stick my fingers in my ears and loudly tell them that I can't hear them. Then I start making erratic 'wooping' noises as I run away, my arms flailing wildly in the air.
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Post by Kick Your Face on Feb 6, 2011 5:19:59 GMT -5
Showed them Japanese wrestling clips of various wrestlers and they actually became Kobashi fans from them. Like in high school, everyone wanted to do chop battles because of the Kobashi/Kensuke one from 2005.
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Post by Souper Dragon on Feb 6, 2011 7:11:29 GMT -5
All the wrestlers who have died of drugs, because of pain killer addiction so they could keep doing their job, tells me it isnt fake
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