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Post by arthuradams2002 on Apr 3, 2011 22:53:19 GMT -5
Some people are talking about this being one of the worst WrestleManias and the ending really sucked. But, at this point can the WWE throw anything out there and WM will still sell out next year.
I am convenced to believe they could have Zack Ryder close the show and WrestleMania would still be a sell out the following year.
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Post by CNR79 on Apr 3, 2011 22:56:02 GMT -5
Most of the tickets are sold long before the card is finalized. The # of PPV buys are what measures how interested people are in the actual matches.
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Post by sarun on Apr 3, 2011 22:57:50 GMT -5
WM is big enough at this point to be an economic booster for host city and region around it. I guess WWE buys, as a poster above said, would be more of reactive measure.
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Post by Burst on Apr 3, 2011 22:57:30 GMT -5
Really, I kind of saw this Mania as the equivalent of Vince or Kevin Dunn going "I can Entertainment up the product however the hell much I want and the suckers'll still buy the f***ing thing!" before placing an order for another pallet of shovels.
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Post by percymania on Apr 3, 2011 22:58:56 GMT -5
A bad Wrestlemania is still better than most good PPVs.
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Post by Vince's Torn Quads on Apr 3, 2011 23:10:00 GMT -5
The last few WMs have all been poor in truth, apart from Taker's matches. But when I say 'poor', I really just mean 'underwhelming'. At least we don't get a stoned Jeff Hardy coming out and being force pinned inside a minute in the main event, making us scream for our money back.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Apr 3, 2011 23:19:30 GMT -5
"You'll eat this crap and like it!!!"
That's what I feel.
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Post by Free Hat on Apr 3, 2011 23:52:53 GMT -5
The truth is that most Wrestlemania's have been bad. I mean you couldn't pay me to sit through WMs 1, 2, 4, 9, 11, 13, 15, 16, 18, 22, 23, 24, or 25 in their entirety again, and even most of the good ones are bogged down by excessive amounts of crap. But that still hasn't done anything to hurt the show's reputation. It's ultimately the marketing and presentation that matters, something WWE has become extremely adept at.
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Post by Dean-o on Apr 3, 2011 23:55:38 GMT -5
I'm starting to feel that these WrestleMania's are getting too overbooked and overlong. By the main event the crowd is too tired.
Maybe if we were back in the day when we had 4-5 PPVs a year, and jobber matches on TV, but these days it's hard to live up to all the hype when we see all these guys every week.
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Post by SickFlipPiledriver on Apr 3, 2011 23:56:10 GMT -5
They're invincible to ever being beaten by another wrestling company, yeah. I guess they could be brought down by other, outside forces.
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Post by Phil Parent on Apr 3, 2011 23:57:22 GMT -5
Yes they are.
They own the business' history.
They are deep rooted in media.
They are as associated with the business as Kleenex is with tissues or Frigidaire is with...Frigidaires.
They have deep deep pockets.
And mostly...
They have the ability to totally crush you underneath 200 tons of pressure if you DARE to become threatening to them.
Do you have absolutely any doubt they they could end both TNA and ROH by this time next month if they REALLY wanted to?
The only promotions who have a chance only go as far as WWE lets them. For example: it's safe to say that, WWE lets the Japanese promotion alone, for the most part. And that is because WWE cannot have a constant presence in Japan anyway for geographical reasons, so they are satisfied with their share of the product there, doing very good TV ratings and selling out when they tour.
Mexico is another example, but let me tell you, Mexico is BORKED. It's geographically close to the States so it could be added to the house show circuit real easily. WWE is already dominating the TV ratings there. The key is Sin Cara, if Sin Cara gets over, and the E gets even more of the Latino demographic, I seriously think that the E will raid Mexico of its young talent.
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Post by Citizen Zero on Apr 4, 2011 0:02:28 GMT -5
As the 2008 crash and the resulting implosion of investment companies worth more money than Vince could ever dream of showed, nothing is truly invincible.
If the 'E keeps putting up a mediocre product, it's eventually going to dwindle away into irrelevance.
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Post by Dean-o on Apr 4, 2011 0:06:17 GMT -5
As the 2008 crash and the resulting implosion of investment companies worth more money than Vince could ever dream of showed, nothing is truly invincible. If the 'E keeps putting up a mediocre product, it's eventually going to dwindle away into irrelevance. What we call mediorce, the masses could call entertainment. Remember, not everybody has been watching for 10, 20+ years. To some fans, the "new era" of WWE is what they know, and will grow up watching.
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Post by Phil Parent on Apr 4, 2011 0:13:54 GMT -5
As the 2008 crash and the resulting implosion of investment companies worth more money than Vince could ever dream of showed, nothing is truly invincible. If the 'E keeps putting up a mediocre product, it's eventually going to dwindle away into irrelevance. What we call mediorce, the masses could call entertainment. Remember, not everybody has been watching for 10, 20+ years. To some fans, the "new era" of WWE is what they know, and will grow up watching. That's a scary thought, but a very real one. Think our great-grand-fathers who watched Thesz would have enjoyed Rock & Wrestling and Attitude?....Maybe in a not too far away future, we'll tune out because the business is no longer what we like.
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Post by wcw on Apr 4, 2011 0:17:30 GMT -5
Until there is a company that provides a good alternative (Sadly TNA booked by Vince Russo can not do that) WWE is only competing against themselves at this point. They know they have their audience and they know what they have to do to get their audience to buy in.
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Post by Dean-o on Apr 4, 2011 0:44:47 GMT -5
What we call mediorce, the masses could call entertainment. Remember, not everybody has been watching for 10, 20+ years. To some fans, the "new era" of WWE is what they know, and will grow up watching. That's a scary thought, but a very real one. Think our great-grand-fathers who watched Thesz would have enjoyed Rock & Wrestling and Attitude?....Maybe in a not too far away future, we'll tune out because the business is no longer what we like. It's very true. I remember my dad, who was a fan in the WWWF days, hated the WWF by the time I started watching around 1990 because of the stupid "circus" cast of characters.
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Post by nate5054 on Apr 4, 2011 0:49:10 GMT -5
Some people are talking about this being one of the worst WrestleManias and the ending really sucked. But, at this point can the WWE throw anything out there and WM will still sell out next year. I am convenced to believe they could have Zack Ryder close the show and WrestleMania would still be a sell out the following year. That's the thing about big events with history behind them. Their past success ensures their future. Especially when there is pretty much no competition with them (I have no idea what TNAs version of Maina is).
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Post by Dean-o on Apr 4, 2011 0:50:51 GMT -5
Some people are talking about this being one of the worst WrestleManias and the ending really sucked. But, at this point can the WWE throw anything out there and WM will still sell out next year. I am convenced to believe they could have Zack Ryder close the show and WrestleMania would still be a sell out the following year. That's the thing about big events with history behind them. Their past success ensures their future. Especially when there is pretty much no competition with them (I have no idea what TNAs version of Maina is). The random PPV they hold outside the Impact Zone? ;D
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Post by thegame415 on Apr 4, 2011 2:37:44 GMT -5
Yes.
Think of it this way...will the Super Bowl always sell out? Yes...months in advance. Even if people don't know who is in the game.
In know way am I saying WM makes as much profit as the Super Bowl, but it's a big deal.
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Post by Citizen Zero on Apr 4, 2011 2:42:48 GMT -5
As the 2008 crash and the resulting implosion of investment companies worth more money than Vince could ever dream of showed, nothing is truly invincible. If the 'E keeps putting up a mediocre product, it's eventually going to dwindle away into irrelevance. What we call mediorce, the masses could call entertainment. Remember, not everybody has been watching for 10, 20+ years. To some fans, the "new era" of WWE is what they know, and will grow up watching. I'm sorry but I don't believe that my tastes are somehow more 'refined' than the average wrestling fan. I'm not buying the new 'Entertainment' direction and judging by the dead crowds RAW is constantly opening to unless they trot out one of their old Attitude Era stars, neither are they. At the current rate WWE's going, either another fed is going to end up eventually usurping it, or something else (UFC most likely) will just keep stealing it's demographic until it's little more than a glorified indy.
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