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Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Post by percymania on May 6, 2011 20:23:44 GMT -5
He's talented. He's hard worker. He's a likable guy behind the scenes. He's always willing to put over others. He's obviously as passionate about the business as most fans are.
I think that's enough reasons right there to explain why Christian is so popular with fans who use the Internet (aka "The IWC").
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Post by ray8751 on May 6, 2011 22:33:50 GMT -5
Can't speak for anyone else but I've always been a fan of his.
What really won me over was his heel run in 04-05, I'm still waiting for him to "Kick Marky Mark's ass!", I don't know if it was newz or not but the story was he worked his last match for WWE not under contract as he was booked on the PPV and as expected went out on his back.
Anyway he went to TNA and I followed, he was treated like a star and paid everyone back by improving his move set, promo skills and by having some damn good feuds and matches.
When he came back to the WWE he brought his improved ringwork with him, I kept hoping the WWE would do more with him but alas they didn't do much with him after ECW got cancelled, I know people will say he only got the WHC because of Edge but I can't think of anyone more deserving and its a shame the WWE doesn't think so.
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Post by Mr. Socko's Brother on May 6, 2011 23:05:46 GMT -5
When he came back to the WWE he brought his improved ringwork with him, I kept hoping the WWE would do more with him but alas they didn't do much with him after ECW got cancelled, I know people will say he only got the WHC because of Edge but I can't think of anyone more deserving and its a shame the WWE doesn't think so. I haven't watched Smackdown yet, but knew about the title change beforehand. Now that this is no longer a spoiler, I'll quote what Chris Jericho tweeted on Thursday: We can only hope that's the case and he gets another, longer run with it sometime before he has to retire.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on May 6, 2011 23:11:28 GMT -5
Christian being a martyr today is just the fact that they built up this story of Christian clawing his way to the top of the ladder and becoming World Champion, while his best friend who was forced to retire.........celebrates his success. Then for some unexplicable reason, his week as World Champion ends up being his last.
I mean, they didn't even give the guy a month. It shows impatience on WWE's part and impatience can equal screwups, which is what happened.
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Post by fizzeewater on May 6, 2011 23:20:00 GMT -5
Christian has always been one of my favorites.
IMO he was way more funny than Edge was and he was the heart and soul of that team.
When he went through his temper tantrum phase I would have tears streaming down my face laughing. I remember one time he threw a tantrum after losing to the APA in a Poker Game and I literally fell off my chair laughing.
His heel run with Tomko as his bodyguard was pure genius. He was the hottest heel on the roster and I think after a triple threat title match with Cena and Jericho he was shunted back down the roster and I felt bad for him.
"Who ordered the pizza with the extra Peeparooni?"
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on May 6, 2011 23:53:38 GMT -5
Christian being a martyr today is just the fact that they built up this story of Christian clawing his way to the top of the ladder and becoming World Champion, while his best friend who was forced to retire.........celebrates his success. Then for some unexplicable reason, his week as World Champion ends up being his last. I mean, they didn't even give the guy a month. It shows impatience on WWE's part and impatience can equal screwups, which is what happened. By the same token, aren't you being impatient with your response to one show? This could end up being the angle of the year, but we've only seen the first act. We've seen the tired "Lifetime/childhood dream" face run a million times...now we've just seen it completely blow up in someone's face. How will Christian respond? How does Orton respond to blithely crushing someone's dream? Will Booker T call da po-lice over it? One must be patient to find out....
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Post by James McCloud IS John Godot on May 7, 2011 0:04:31 GMT -5
By the same token, aren't you being impatient with your response to one show? This could end up being the angle of the year, but we've only seen the first act. We've seen the tired "Lifetime/childhood dream" face run a million times...now we've just seen it completely blow up in someone's face. How will Christian respond? How does Orton respond to blithely crushing someone's dream? Will Booker T call da po-lice over it? One must be patient to find out.... Well, I (and hopefully most others) will re-evaluate my opinion as things progress. (Of course, if/when that happens, it'll be dismissed as flip-flopping but oh well) But if Chapter 1 of a book really reeks, or an episode of a show stinks, or the first game in a trilogy sucks, I usually say "Hey, that chapter/episode/game was kind of crummy." Others are fine with stepping back and not really nailing down an opinion until the thing is pretty much done and dusted. That's fine too. But I judge now and if it gets better, I'll change my opinion accordingly. It's no biggie. To me, and others, all we have to go on is what we've been shown and we don't like it.
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Post by Ryushinku on May 7, 2011 3:11:03 GMT -5
The difference is, some people aren't going "that chapter was crummy", they're going "I'm gonna burn down that damn bookshop for stocking it!"
I like Christian. I like him a lot really, he's not a real favourite but I like him. Pretty much at the same level as Orton, funnily enough.
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Post by Citizen Zero on May 7, 2011 4:14:58 GMT -5
I'm not sure why people are hoping for a Christian to turn heel for a feud with Orton.
Outside of wanting to see him get curbstomped ala CM Punk.
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Post by Mr. Socko's Brother on May 7, 2011 5:11:47 GMT -5
I'm not sure why people are hoping for a Christian to turn heel for a feud with Orton. Outside of wanting to see him get curbstomped ala CM Punk. It would be better than if he just did nothing, I guess. And there's always the hope that they might book Christian to look like a threat, since his contract isn't close to expiring whereas Punk's is.
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Post by Prince Petty on May 7, 2011 5:20:16 GMT -5
Christian's always been great as a heel, but his best run was when he had delusions of popularity (which then turned into actual popularity) and started talking about his peeps.
This heel turn would seem to be based around the fact that the fans didn't appreciate him, so I'm not sure how they could pull it off without making him look like a whiner... and then having him get squashed by Orton again.
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Post by Mr. Socko's Brother on May 7, 2011 5:28:27 GMT -5
Christian's always been great as a heel, but his best run was when he had delusions of popularity (which then turned into actual popularity) and started talking about his peeps. This heel turn would seem to be based around the fact that the fans didn't appreciate him, so I'm not sure how they could pull it off without making him look like a whiner... and then having him get squashed by Orton again. Well, let's not call it something it isn't. A squash is where a guy gets no offense in, or barely any. To anybody unfamiliar with the participants and their places within the company, the match between Christian and Orton would have looked like it could have gone either way. But anyway, what do you think likely made this happen: do you think it was Orton demanding that he become the WHC since he was the biggest star on Smackdown, or do you think that WWE decided to put the title on him because they (stupidly) had no confidence in Christian?
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Post by Prince Petty on May 7, 2011 5:32:58 GMT -5
Christian's always been great as a heel, but his best run was when he had delusions of popularity (which then turned into actual popularity) and started talking about his peeps. This heel turn would seem to be based around the fact that the fans didn't appreciate him, so I'm not sure how they could pull it off without making him look like a whiner... and then having him get squashed by Orton again. Well, let's not call it something it isn't. A squash is where a guy gets no offense in, or barely any. To anybody unfamiliar with the participants and their places within the company, the match between Christian and Orton would have looked like it could have gone either way. But anyway, what do you think likely made this happen: do you think it was Orton demanding that he become the WHC since he was the biggest star on Smackdown, or do you think that WWE decided to put the title on him because they (stupidly) had no confidence in Christian? No, fair enough. That match wasn't a squash. But future matches between Orton and whiny heel Christian would get progressively... squashier. Orton's feuds tend to go that way. I've no idea what Orton is like behind the scenes, but I can't imagine many top guys in the history of the WWE who wouldn't use their pull to get the belt in that sort of situation. I'd guess that the WWE didn't want the belt on Christian, and Orton certainly wasn't averse to taking it off him.
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Post by zing on May 7, 2011 9:26:47 GMT -5
I love Christian as a heel, but it would be idiotic to turn him when they are so short on faces and he is over now as a face.
Yes, it may be the start of an angle, but it is still impatient booking symptomatic of a wider problem that WWE is allergic to main events that don't contain a miniscule number of their roster. I loved the ladder match at Extreme Rules, had a great emotional investment in it, and that's just been poured down the drain. Title reigns don't last forever, and I wasn't too bothered about Miz losing his to Cena because he'd had a reasonably decent run with it even if Cena bores me to death. But the WWE just hotshotted it on to same old Randy with no attempt at any sort of build up. Crap crap, pure and simple. They could have kept ADR there, they could have bumped up somebody like Sheamus or Barrett to feud for it, and had Randy feud with another heel. I'm so sick of seeing the same old people booked in the same way.
The saying is wrong, it's not status quo is god, it's status quo is goddamn boring. Enough is enough and it's time for a change!
EDIT: Sigh, that went a bit ranty didn't it? On topic then. I've always loved Christian since he debuted, cos I liked the Brood and yeah, I ended up having a crush on him. I like his in ring work, I like his promos, he's a very charismatic and funny guy and always does something interesting. I generally feel the same about Edge, if I like Christian more, it's probably the nostalgia that I used to find him cute and therefore liked him a bit more then.
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Post by normcoleman on May 7, 2011 16:47:57 GMT -5
because Christian never needed creative's help to get over
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