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Post by Soultastic on Apr 29, 2011 22:33:32 GMT -5
The disappointment of seeing it for the first time followed me for years.
"Oh cool, he lifted him up on his shoulders. I bet he's gonna do something spectac---oh he just let him fall on the side. Why would he do that? That's lame."
But lately I've come to appreciate it a lot more. As a poster above said, it really has become an iconic finisher at this stage.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Apr 29, 2011 23:50:27 GMT -5
He changed how he did it I think after he hurt his knee or something in his leg after that Royal Rumble or some time after that and it didn't look right. I think he changed it again and its gotten to a good point but for a while there it was a simple fireman's carry barely a slam and just didn't look right.
The name change probably lost some people too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2011 0:06:25 GMT -5
Because the person doing a move sometimes has to sell it as well or better than the person taking it.
Say what you will about Triple H, but he's pretty consistent with making the pedigree look forceful.
With Barrett's wasteland, it depends on if it looks like a drop or a throw, obviously the throw is going to look better.
Can't expect DVD's, Ganso Bombs and other crazy things we all love, but if you look like you mean to cause pain, then it's a whole lot easier to sell as the one taking the bump.
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Post by Citizen Zero on Apr 30, 2011 0:16:23 GMT -5
It looks fine to me. Same thing with Barret's finisher, I'm baffled by that people'd think a move where you basically slam the guy onto the floor as hard as you can doesn't look devastating enough. The problem is that everyone has moves like that. Doesn't look very special. I mean, if it were a shoot, I'd rather have Barrett's finish put on me, than Mark Henry's which are similiar, except one has a fat guy squashing me too. Except Mark Henry just drops you while Barrett slingshots you into the ground.
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Post by joebob27 on Apr 30, 2011 0:21:59 GMT -5
The problem is that everyone has moves like that. Doesn't look very special. I mean, if it were a shoot, I'd rather have Barrett's finish put on me, than Mark Henry's which are similiar, except one has a fat guy squashing me too. Except Mark Henry just drops you while Barrett slingshots you into the ground. It looks like crap. Like a bodyslam that's east-west instead of north-south. And it's one of those moves that is negatively impacted by the size of the guy taking it. Cena's finish actually seems more impressive with the giant/fat guy taking it. Barretts, you kinda just hope no one gets hurt while it looks like crap. lol
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Post by saintpat on Apr 30, 2011 0:25:34 GMT -5
I just wish he was more consistent with the move. You either go down with the opponent and drive them to the floor, or you toss them over your shoulder and let them free fall to the floor. Pick one. Yep, that's right. Repitition is the answer. Never, ever vary things in any way and the IWC will love you forever.
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Post by Beartato on Apr 30, 2011 0:29:29 GMT -5
I just don't like it. I don't care who uses it.
CM Punk, my god and savior, could do it and I still wouldn't like it.
Daniel Bryan, who I love more than my family and friends, could do it and I wouldn't like it.
The lovechild of William Regal, Kurt Angle, Chris Jericho, Dean Maleno, and Christian, who I would give all of my limbs to if he asked, could do it and I still wouldn't like it.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 30, 2011 0:55:24 GMT -5
The disappointment of seeing it for the first time followed me for years. "Oh cool, he lifted him up on his shoulders. I bet he's gonna do something spectac---oh he just let him fall on the side. Why would he do that? That's lame." But lately I've come to appreciate it a lot more. As a poster above said, it really has become an iconic finisher at this stage. Really? Because I thought it looked awesome when he first started doing it. When he first started doing it he'd sit down and just plant them, and really look like he did some damage. That was back when it was still supposed to be a modified F5. Before too long tho he started doing it where he turns and lands on all fours, which I still think looked pretty good. It's really only when he started doing it more as a throw then a slam that I didn't care for it
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Post by Soultastic on Apr 30, 2011 0:59:39 GMT -5
The disappointment of seeing it for the first time followed me for years. "Oh cool, he lifted him up on his shoulders. I bet he's gonna do something spectac---oh he just let him fall on the side. Why would he do that? That's lame." But lately I've come to appreciate it a lot more. As a poster above said, it really has become an iconic finisher at this stage. Really? Because I thought it looked awesome when he first started doing it. When he first started doing it he'd sit down and just plant them, and really look like he did some damage. That was back when it was still supposed to be a modified F5. Before too long tho he started doing it where he turns and lands on all fours, which I still think looked pretty good. It's really only when he started doing it more as a throw then a slam that I didn't care for it Yeah, really. Doesn't help that the first one I watched was particulary lazy though (can't remember exactly when it was, but probably around mid/late 2003). Unfortunately first impressions tend to stick with me for quite a while.
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Post by #RUDO Coco Del Rio on Apr 30, 2011 1:06:21 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with the move itself. (Same with the Wasteland, despite its unpopularity.) But I never call it the AA. It's still the FU to me.
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Post by FUNK_US/BRODUS on Apr 30, 2011 4:28:51 GMT -5
If he slams them like he did back when it was called the FU, it looks pretty freaking painful. But a lot of time he is just dropping them in freefall and it hardly looks painful.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 30, 2011 4:32:56 GMT -5
I really never had a problem with it. The "it's just a fireman's carry slam" argument always struck me as funny because, yeah, that is the technical name for the move. Of course it's just like that.
"Man, I hate the Clothesline from Hell. It is just a running lariat." Sounds kind of ridiculous with any other move, doesn't it?
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Post by FUNK_US/BRODUS on Apr 30, 2011 4:48:08 GMT -5
I really never had a problem with it. The "it's just a fireman's carry slam" argument always struck me as funny because, yeah, that is the technical name for the move. Of course it's just like that. "Man, I hate the Clothesline from Hell. It is just a running lariat." Sounds kind of ridiculous with any other move, doesn't it? Yeah for me thats a lame argument. Except that with the Clothesline from hell at least, JBLmade that look like a million dollars.
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Post by The Deadly Snake on Apr 30, 2011 5:11:22 GMT -5
It just flops the guy on the canvas. It looks really, really, really weak. Finishers are suppose to be weak to protect the workers, but LOOK DEVASTATING. Anyone ever seen... no... HEARD, Dr. Death Steve Williams punch? It's like he freaking kills the other guy! But I heard it barely touches the chin, and even fellow workers are fooled into thinking he stiffed the other worker.
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Post by hossfan on Apr 30, 2011 5:24:32 GMT -5
The problem is that everyone has moves like that. Doesn't look very special. I mean, if it were a shoot, I'd rather have Barrett's finish put on me, than Mark Henry's which are similiar, except one has a fat guy squashing me too. Except Mark Henry just drops you while Barrett slingshots you into the ground. The World Strongest Slam has a 400 pound man pick an opponent up six feet off the ground and fling them down bodily while falling on them. It looks a hell of a lot more painful than Barrett's finisher.
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Post by The Ichi on Apr 30, 2011 7:52:11 GMT -5
You know, even though it looks 10 times cooler, the AA looks like it would hurt more than the RKO.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Apr 30, 2011 7:58:23 GMT -5
Honestly it's more the name than the move itself for me. An Attitude Adjustment sounds more like something a character with the gimmick of a parent or teacher would use than the supposed top babyface of the company. Didn't Lex Luger have a move called the Attitude Adjustment? I'm not directing that at you personally; I mean, I preferred F-U about five times over, but people act like the name Attitude Adjustment was personally created by Johnny Ace or something.
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Post by Snaptastic on Apr 30, 2011 8:28:36 GMT -5
It's not a bad finisher my any means.
Hell the one he delivered to Batista at WM26, along with the one to Miz (which was even more spectacular) at 27 were absolutely amazing.
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Post by Bearer is God on Apr 30, 2011 8:34:17 GMT -5
I preferred the Pimpdrop.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 30, 2011 11:35:36 GMT -5
For the most part, I think we'e all gotten used to it. It CAN look good depending on when/how it's done, but most of the time it does look like shit. However since it's been around so long and built to be a credible finisher, I've got no real issues with it, beyond aesthetically.
Essentially, a move that's built up to be powerful and credible becomes so in a worked environmnet.
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