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Post by rapidfire187 on Apr 30, 2011 12:35:40 GMT -5
I don't like the AA because it's basically the same impact as a back body drop or a body slam. He's basically just tossing his opponent in the air. At least with the Rock Bottom you can believe it a little easier. Rock lifts his opponent up then slams them with all of his arm strength and falls with them. The Rock Bottom impact is similar to a spine buster or something.
That said, I'm used to Cena's finisher so I can buy it now.
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Post by GaTechGrad on Apr 30, 2011 12:55:51 GMT -5
I always wondered why his finisher is named after an old Hank Williams Jr country song.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Apr 30, 2011 13:16:49 GMT -5
I hated the move at first, but over the years he's become more forceful and fluid with it. Plus he's powerful enough to where I can buy him seriously hurting someone with it.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 30, 2011 13:17:53 GMT -5
I really never had a problem with it. The "it's just a fireman's carry slam" argument always struck me as funny because, yeah, that is the technical name for the move. Of course it's just like that. "Man, I hate the Clothesline from Hell. It is just a running lariat." Sounds kind of ridiculous with any other move, doesn't it? Yeah for me thats a lame argument. Except that with the Clothesline from hell at least, JBLmade that look like a million dollars. Oh yeah, it's a great finisher, which is why I chose it. I am just saying that anything can be trivialized. That doesn't make it a valid argument for people. |
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 30, 2011 13:30:47 GMT -5
Try getting slammed with the AA on concrete and tell me it wouldn't hurt.
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Post by @TenaciousBe on Apr 30, 2011 13:30:57 GMT -5
My problem with the AA is the same problem I have with most of Cena's "impactful" moves -- the way he drops them to the canvas, goes with them, and bounces right back up to his feet. It's just like the setup for the 5 Knuckle Shuffle - even though I know that the reality is he's being respectful / protective of his fellow worker, his moves shouldn't LOOK like they are. Cena has a way of making it look like he's gently setting the guy down on the canvas rather than doing something with a lot of force, and that's why I just can't buy his moves as being so devastating.
Now, to be fair, I haven't paid a whole lot of attention to how he's been delivering these moves recently, so maybe he's gotten better about that. That was the big reason I was hating on him 2-3 years ago and it made me want to more or less tune out what he was doing. If he's gotten better about all of that, then cool beans. Either way, the AA still seems like a weak finisher to me when it's something that's been used for years as a setup/transitional move by other people.
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Post by SAJ Forth on Apr 30, 2011 20:15:53 GMT -5
I hate the name. I wish it was still the FU Me to. It sounds better. |
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Post by Sektor on Apr 30, 2011 20:19:52 GMT -5
I hate the name. I wish it was still the FU Me to. It sounds better. I imagine it seems like a stupid name to people who are just tuning in over the past year or two. To us it's awesome because of how big Lesnar was then you had Cena naming his finisher just to stick it to him. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2011 20:20:40 GMT -5
Back when it was first getting used, the AA was a lame, weak-looking finisher in a sea of really powerful-looking finishing moves. Clothesline from Hell, Batista Bomb, Sweet Chin Music, Pedigree, RKO, F-5, Walls of Jericho, Ankle Lock, Edgecution, etc. It's been improved since then and stands as an average finisher, in a sea of really weak-looking finishing moves, such as the Skull Crushing Finale, the Overdrive variants, Otunga's spinebuster, the GTS, Ura-nage slams, and so forth.
Right now, I don't at all mind the AA as a finisher, and for that very reason.
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Post by Starshine on Apr 30, 2011 20:56:29 GMT -5
Try getting slammed with the AA on concrete and tell me it wouldn't hurt. How often does he do it on concrete anyway? You can trip over and hurt yourself on concrete. I don't get your point. Anyway, I absolutely hate the move when he just drops his opponent. There was a time around 04/05 where he did it like this and it looked about as convincing as a guy pinning someone after a hip toss (which in Cena's case we won't get into right now *a-hem*). But when he keeps a hold and falls along with them it actually looks like it has some force and I can buy it a lot more. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 30, 2011 21:00:28 GMT -5
I always thought the name FU was pretty silly actually. Don't get me wrong AA isn't much better.
Edit: yeah I know initially it was a jab at Lesnar's F5.. it still sounds goofy.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Apr 30, 2011 21:20:31 GMT -5
Try getting slammed with the AA on concrete and tell me it wouldn't hurt. How often does he do it on concrete anyway? You can trip over and hurt yourself on concrete. I don't get your point. Anyway, I absolutely hate the move when he just drops his opponent. There was a time around 04/05 where he did it like this and it looked about as convincing as a guy pinning someone after a hip toss (which in Cena's case we won't get into right now *a-hem*). But when he keeps a hold and falls along with them it actually looks like it has some force and I can buy it a lot more. Yeah, I remember in 04-05 when it looked literally like a standing fireman's carry, where he would pick them up & then just toss them off while just standing there. When he did it like that, I always wondered how that's anymore impactful than, say, a back bodydrop, at least now he actually slams them down & it looks like a decent finisher. |
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Post by casualobserver on Apr 30, 2011 22:27:19 GMT -5
Frankly, I don't see why anybody would have a problem with AA. He was a key member of the Horsemen and....that's not what we're talking about is it?
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on May 1, 2011 2:59:07 GMT -5
Just for posterity, the AA (or F-U, if you will) isn't a fireman's carry slam so much as it is a fireman's carry takeover. Wade Barrett's Wasteland would be considered a fireman's carry slam.
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Post by Corporate H on May 1, 2011 18:05:08 GMT -5
I didn't like it at first, but he's definitely amped it up since his rookie years. The one he pulled off on The Miz was probably the main highlight of their 'Mania match and deservedly so.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on May 1, 2011 18:21:17 GMT -5
Honestly it's more the name than the move itself for me. An Attitude Adjustment sounds more like something a character with the gimmick of a parent or teacher would use than the supposed top babyface of the company. Didn't Lex Luger have a move called the Attitude Adjustment? I'm not directing that at you personally; I mean, I preferred F-U about five times over, but people act like the name Attitude Adjustment was personally created by Johnny Ace or something. Yeah, It was the name of his Piledriver, which has been retconned in the new SvR to just "Adjustment Piledriver." |
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Post by SAJ Forth on May 1, 2011 18:40:10 GMT -5
Does he know it was changed?
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Post by "Handsome" Whitey Fats on May 1, 2011 20:30:57 GMT -5
I just wish he was more consistent with the move. You either go down with the opponent and drive them to the floor, or you toss them over your shoulder and let them free fall to the floor. Pick one. Yep, that's right. Repitition is the answer. Never, ever vary things in any way and the IWC will love you forever. This is my favorite post ever |
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