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Post by Throwback on Apr 27, 2011 12:58:05 GMT -5
I always wondered what those 3 white symbols were. WM17 - Shane McMahon vs. Vince McMahon WM20 - Brock Lesnar vs. Goldberg WM21 - John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs John Cena (his middle name may not be Bradshaw, but that's the only difference) WM22 - Kurt Angle vs Rey Mysterio vs Randy Orton (Kurt and Randy) WM23 - Donald Trump vs Vince McMahon WM24 - Randy Orton vs John Cena vs Triple H (Randy and John) WM27 - The Miz vs John Cena (The Miz is short for Mizanin) and to add my own. Mick Foley has never beaten Chris Jericho in a match be it WCW, ECW or WWF/E None of those were the main events, as in the last match on the show. Apart from the last one, and 'The Miz' isn't his real name so it doesn't count really. I've always considered the promotional matches used to sell wrestlemania as the main events. To each is own though. but to give an example of what I mean. Hogan vs Rock was the hyped match for WM18 and even though it wasn't the title match or the last match of the night. It was the "main event" that most people paid to see. Also with two titles and brands they can't each go on last so there has to be at least 2 main events. But if you want to go the titles route for what constitutes a main event. WM21 - JBL vs Cena was for the WWE title. WM22 - Rey vs Kurt vs Orton was for Heavyweight title WM24 - HHH vs Orton vs Cena was for the WWE title. WM23 - Trump vs Vince. I use my Hogan vs Rock example it may not have been a title match or last of the night, But I know alot of people who watched WM solely to see that. as far as The Miz goes, It's like the Rock, once known as Rocky Maivia he started referring to himself in third person and gave himself the nickname of The Rock. We all knew his full name but called him by his nickname. The millions still chant "his name" Rocky, Rocky Rocky. The Miz is the same story. Once known as Mike Mizanin he started referring to himself ............ Read above. But like I said. to each is own. It's just how I see it. To add to the thread. Not really WWE but kinda. Vince was Shane's best man at his wedding.
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Post by Fantozzi on Apr 27, 2011 13:39:17 GMT -5
I remember back in 1992 when WCW was about to have the tournament to crown new NWA Tag Team Champs, there was a press conference they showed, and there were 2 WWF mics on the podium with a bunch of others. Someone even asked Jim Ross about it on his old radio show that was on WSB. He said something to the affect of that the WWF was considering sending a team to enter the tournament. I'm sure he was kayfabing like mad, but that doesn't change that WCW used those WWF microphones on TV. You know the ones, they had the WWF logo in yellow on them. 5 years later, the WWF sent the New Blackjacks (Bradshaw and Windham) to AJPW to compete in 1997 Tag League
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Apr 27, 2011 13:42:52 GMT -5
None of those were the main events, as in the last match on the show. Apart from the last one, and 'The Miz' isn't his real name so it doesn't count really. I've always considered the promotional matches used to sell wrestlemania as the main events. To each is own though. but to give an example of what I mean. Hogan vs Rock was the hyped match for WM18 and even though it wasn't the title match or the last match of the night. It was the "main event" that most people paid to see. Also with two titles and brands they can't each go on last so there has to be at least 2 main events. But if you want to go the titles route for what constitutes a main event. WM21 - JBL vs Cena was for the WWE title. WM22 - Rey vs Kurt vs Orton was for Heavyweight title WM24 - HHH vs Orton vs Cena was for the WWE title. WM23 - Trump vs Vince. I use my Hogan vs Rock example it may not have been a title match or last of the night, But I know alot of people who watched WM solely to see that. as far as The Miz goes, It's like the Rock, once known as Rocky Maivia he started referring to himself in third person and gave himself the nickname of The Rock. We all knew his full name but called him by his nickname. The millions still chant "his name" Rocky, Rocky Rocky. The Miz is the same story. Once known as Mike Mizanin he started referring to himself ............ Read above. But like I said. to each is own. It's just how I see it. To add to the thread. Not really WWE but kinda. Vince was Shane's best man at his wedding. Oh yeah, I understand what you mean. I was just saying that I think the original stat is just counting 'main event' as in the last match on the show, which in that case the stat does stand. But, I get your point and I personally do count the 'big matches' to be the co-main events. Such as Rock/Hogan, Taker/HHH, etc.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Apr 27, 2011 19:06:12 GMT -5
- -The original idea for Smackdown was an all women wrestling show. I call shenanigans. They made a trial edition of Smackdown months before it became a regular show. It wasn't a divas only show.
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Post by Evil Homer on Apr 27, 2011 19:11:31 GMT -5
RVD , Trish and Stone Cold share a birthday- Dec 18. Bubba Ray Dudley and Joey Styles were born the exact same day July 14, 1971. Lex Luger is the only winner of the Royal Rumble, not to win the title at some point .
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Apr 27, 2011 19:14:09 GMT -5
Lex Luger is the only winner of the Royal Rumble, not to win the title at some point . Jim Duggan Big John Studd You could even say Alberto Del Rio for now.
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Post by The Spelunker! on Apr 27, 2011 22:12:39 GMT -5
Did they offer a title shot for the Studd rumble? I know they didn't for Duggan. Perhaps that fact could be amended.
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Post by wildojinx on Apr 28, 2011 17:30:17 GMT -5
-Roddy Piper has never competed at summerslam -There has been only 1 cage match (not counting hell in a cell) at wrestlemania: Hogan vs Bundy
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Post by monolith1676 on Apr 28, 2011 19:42:10 GMT -5
Man, Vince sure loved to talk about his male genitalia, but he didn't have to put pictures of it on his title belts.
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Post by Evil Homer on Apr 28, 2011 23:39:40 GMT -5
Lex Luger is the only winner of the Royal Rumble, not to win the title at some point . Jim Duggan Big John Studd You could even say Alberto Del Rio for now. Woops I had it wrong. here are some correct facts, Dean Malenko invented the crossface. The Undertaker (played by Brian Lee) has appeared in a bollywood movie
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Post by romafan87 on Apr 29, 2011 0:03:00 GMT -5
Paul Roma had a tryout with the WWF in December 1997 and One Mang Gang had one as recently as February 1998.
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Post by casualobserver on Apr 29, 2011 0:07:11 GMT -5
Chris Masters has a combined WWE run of 4 years, and has yet to win a title. This makes him the longest active wrestler not to have won a title at some point.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Apr 29, 2011 6:06:10 GMT -5
None of those were the main events, as in the last match on the show. Apart from the last one, and 'The Miz' isn't his real name so it doesn't count really. I've always considered the promotional matches used to sell wrestlemania as the main events. To each is own though. but to give an example of what I mean. Hogan vs Rock was the hyped match for WM18 and even though it wasn't the title match or the last match of the night. It was the "main event" that most people paid to see. Also with two titles and brands they can't each go on last so there has to be at least 2 main events. But if you want to go the titles route for what constitutes a main event. WM21 - JBL vs Cena was for the WWE title. WM22 - Rey vs Kurt vs Orton was for Heavyweight title WM24 - HHH vs Orton vs Cena was for the WWE title. WM23 - Trump vs Vince. I use my Hogan vs Rock example it may not have been a title match or last of the night, But I know alot of people who watched WM solely to see that. as far as The Miz goes, It's like the Rock, once known as Rocky Maivia he started referring to himself in third person and gave himself the nickname of The Rock. We all knew his full name but called him by his nickname. The millions still chant "his name" Rocky, Rocky Rocky. The Miz is the same story. Once known as Mike Mizanin he started referring to himself ............ Read above. But like I said. to each is own. It's just how I see it. To add to the thread. Not really WWE but kinda. Vince was Shane's best man at his wedding. Why did you include Orton vs. Angle vs. Mysterio? Do you think Rey Mysterio is his real name? I'm calling that a botch. But yea, I meant main event in terms of "last match on the show". And no, Miz doesn't count as his full name. It's not the same name, and WWE hasn't called him anything other than The Miz in years. The only way you'd know his real name is if you either watched him before WWE/very early in his career or looked it up online.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Apr 29, 2011 6:09:54 GMT -5
Chris Masters has a combined WWE run of 4 years, and has yet to win a title. This makes him the longest active wrestler not to have won a title at some point. What about JTG? I know JTG and Chris Master's combined time in WWE has to be close but it's hard to figure out b/c they both debuted around the same time and both were gone for a little while.
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Post by casualobserver on Apr 29, 2011 6:47:49 GMT -5
Chris Masters has a combined WWE run of 4 years, and has yet to win a title. This makes him the longest active wrestler not to have won a title at some point. What about JTG? I know JTG and Chris Master's combined time in WWE has to be close but it's hard to figure out b/c they both debuted around the same time and both were gone for a little while. Yea, I think they would have to be fairly close now that I think about it. Anybody care to crunch the numbers?
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Apr 29, 2011 8:32:21 GMT -5
Lita was involved in matches in four Wrestlemanias, yet only competed in one, the Triple Threat that Jazz won in WM18. Counting the three matches she did not compete in, her WM record is 1-3, the only "win" coming at WM22.
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Post by Cactus Jack on Apr 29, 2011 11:45:32 GMT -5
- -The original idea for Smackdown was an all women wrestling show. I call shenanigans. They made a trial edition of Smackdown months before it became a regular show. It wasn't a divas only show. The original idea, as in, formed before the pilot you mention.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Apr 29, 2011 15:10:46 GMT -5
Jim Duggan Big John Studd You could even say Alberto Del Rio for now. Woops I had it wrong. here are some correct facts, Dean Malenko invented the crossface. The Undertaker (played by Brian Lee) has appeared in a bollywood movie That's actually pretty neat. I thought Lee did a very good job of imitating the Undertaker during that run. I even remember the old WWF magazines using pictures of the "Underfaker" in the T-Shirt catalog that was in the magazine. But watching this video, Lee definitely had the Taker schtick down. And, Crush doesn't look too bad either.
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Post by Dean-o on Apr 29, 2011 15:16:46 GMT -5
Chris Masters has a combined WWE run of 4 years, and has yet to win a title. This makes him the longest active wrestler not to have won a title at some point. Weren't Masters & Carlito tag team champions? I could be wrong though.
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Post by turkeysandwich on Apr 29, 2011 15:26:21 GMT -5
Chris Masters has a combined WWE run of 4 years, and has yet to win a title. This makes him the longest active wrestler not to have won a title at some point. Weren't Masters & Carlito tag team champions? I could be wrong though. Nope, they did face Kane & Big Show at Mania for the titles, but pretty much got squashed away.
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