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Post by Snaptastic on Apr 27, 2011 20:33:29 GMT -5
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Post by turkeysandwich on Apr 27, 2011 20:36:00 GMT -5
You could tell they were told to try to get her to the end, but she would have been seriously hurt, or would have seriously hurt someone if they let keep going.
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Post by Altabane on Apr 27, 2011 20:38:14 GMT -5
It's a good thing USA Network understands the concept of Reality TV and was attempting to rig the contest.
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Apr 27, 2011 20:39:33 GMT -5
Newz. They can edit the crap out of those video packages to justify keeping ANYONE around. I'm flabbergasted as to how many people think Tough Enough is "real." (See also Matt Cross shock and awe.)
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Apr 27, 2011 20:41:34 GMT -5
Of course they were. This is hardly a news story.
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Post by BigWill on Apr 27, 2011 20:43:08 GMT -5
I think that's an odd way of thinking from USA Network. Regardless of how Rima performed in the show, most people still would have had preconceptions about her, her being Miss USA. Thus they would have felt the show was rigged from the beginning, most likely resulting in the ratings taking a hit going into season 2.
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Apr 27, 2011 20:47:30 GMT -5
I think that's an odd way of thinking from USA Network. Regardless of how Rima performed in the show, most people still would have had preconceptions about her, her being Miss USA. Thus they would have felt the show was rigged from the beginning, most likely resulting in the ratings taking a hit going into season 2. But USA would have Miss USA winning their reality show, and WWE would have Miss USA signed to a contract to put on TV whenever they feel like it. And, oh no, people would think that a reality show would be rigged. That's like people thinking pro wrestling is pre-determined. Oh, no. Whatever shall we do?
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Post by BigWill on Apr 27, 2011 20:51:17 GMT -5
I think that's an odd way of thinking from USA Network. Regardless of how Rima performed in the show, most people still would have had preconceptions about her, her being Miss USA. Thus they would have felt the show was rigged from the beginning, most likely resulting in the ratings taking a hit going into season 2. But USA would have Miss USA winning their reality show, and WWE would have Miss USA signed to a contract to put on TV whenever they feel like it. And, oh no, people would think that a reality show would be rigged. That's like people thinking pro wrestling is pre-determined. Oh, no. Whatever shall we do? Yes people know that wrestling is pre-determined, and some reality shows are rigged, but when they make it painfully obviously, it turns people off. It's like watching a movie with really bad acting. You know the movie isn't real, but you'd like to be able to suspend your belief while you're watching.
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Post by jadison on Apr 27, 2011 20:52:10 GMT -5
I ask this again, who gives a crap about Miss USA? Is that really going to make them any money? She won a big ass pageant, which everyone in their right mind knows is stupid.
Well, not everyone...dammit. Answered my own question.
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Post by Rorschach on Apr 27, 2011 20:56:50 GMT -5
It's a good thing USA Network understands the concept of Reality TV and was attempting to rig the contest. NOTHING....I repeat NOTHING is real about "reality" TV. And when things DO get "real" as in the recent shooting incident on the set of that repossession show, the cameras STOP rolling really quick like.
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Apr 27, 2011 20:57:22 GMT -5
Yes people know that wrestling is pre-determined, and some reality shows are rigged, but when they make it painfully obviously, it turns people off. It's like watching a movie with really bad acting. You know the movie isn't real, but you'd like to be able to suspend your belief while you're watching. This isn't a movie. It's a reality TV show about a fake sport. Nothing about it requires any suspension of disbelief. WWE has even made that point clear themselves. If they really wanted people that deeply emotionally invested, they wouldn't be going out of their way to tell everyone that it is anything but an actual sport. I ask this again, who gives a crap about Miss USA? Is that really going to make them any money? She won a big ass pageant, which everyone in their right mind knows is stupid. Well, not everyone...dammit. Answered my own question. To answer your first question (since you answered the other one), Miss USA winning Tough Enough and signing with WWE would get eyes on the company that wouldn't normally pay attention to them, and that's what they want more than anything else. So, yes.
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Post by BigWill on Apr 27, 2011 21:05:18 GMT -5
Yes people know that wrestling is pre-determined, and some reality shows are rigged, but when they make it painfully obviously, it turns people off. It's like watching a movie with really bad acting. You know the movie isn't real, but you'd like to be able to suspend your belief while you're watching. This isn't a movie. It's a reality TV show about a fake sport. Nothing about it requires any suspension of disbelief. WWE has even made that point clear themselves. If they really wanted people that deeply emotionally invested, they wouldn't be going out of their way to tell everyone that it is anything but an actual sport. Yes it is a reality show about a fake show, but the show is meant to be seen as legit. Just like Raw and Smackdown are meant to looked at as real. You don't see people on Raw or Smackdown saying the show is scripted and all the matches are predetermined do you? So of course you don't want to have a reality show looking obviously fake.
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Apr 27, 2011 21:06:37 GMT -5
This isn't a movie. It's a reality TV show about a fake sport. Nothing about it requires any suspension of disbelief. WWE has even made that point clear themselves. If they really wanted people that deeply emotionally invested, they wouldn't be going out of their way to tell everyone that it is anything but an actual sport. Yes it is a reality show about a fake show, but the show is meant to be seen as legit. Just like Raw and Smackdown are meant to looked at as real. You don't see people on Raw or Smackdown saying the show is scripted and all the matches are predetermined do you? So of course you don't want to have a reality show looking obviously fake. What about the DX Reunion Tour? HHH was breaking the fourth wall like he was on the set of Robin Hood: Men in Tights.
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Post by BigWill on Apr 27, 2011 21:10:11 GMT -5
Yes it is a reality show about a fake show, but the show is meant to be seen as legit. Just like Raw and Smackdown are meant to looked at as real. You don't see people on Raw or Smackdown saying the show is scripted and all the matches are predetermined do you? So of course you don't want to have a reality show looking obviously fake. What about the DX Reunion Tour? HHH was breaking the fourth wall like he was on the set of Robin Hood: Men in Tights. That's just HHH being HHH. He's also the guy that asked if Kofi Kingston used to be Jamaican, and if Chris Masters got smaller (after he stopped doing steroids). It's not like you constantly see superstars, or commentators purposely breaking kayfabe.
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Post by Rorschach on Apr 27, 2011 21:13:52 GMT -5
What about the DX Reunion Tour? HHH was breaking the fourth wall like he was on the set of Robin Hood: Men in Tights. That's just HHH being HHH. He's also the guy that asked if Kofi Kingston used to be Jamaican, and if Chris Masters got smaller (after he stopped doing steroids). It's not like you constantly see superstars, or commentators purposely breaking kayfabe. Pretty much. The boss' son-in-law can get away with s*** like that. Daniel Bryan? Not so much. Hell, I doubt even Kane could get a pass on making some of the cracks that Hunter has, without prior approval.
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Apr 27, 2011 21:16:46 GMT -5
I just can't buy any news from a site called WrestleNEWZ, but this does seem plausible.
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Apr 27, 2011 21:17:34 GMT -5
You all bring up a point about the question I've been asking for a while.
Why do people seem to buy into this idea that HHH is this (as JR likes to say) wrestling purist, and seem to think that this will all end if/when he takes over the company?
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Post by Dub H on Apr 27, 2011 21:19:32 GMT -5
She was also the only oen Austin didnt go yelling and/or insulting when got eliminated.I think.
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Post by FailedGimmick on Apr 27, 2011 21:19:48 GMT -5
I was rooting for her, too.
I think if she is truly serious about it, we will see her on WWE TV someday.
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Post by randomranter on Apr 27, 2011 21:36:53 GMT -5
Watching the show, it was painfully obvious that there was at least some pressure to keep her on as long as possible. I wouldn't be surprised if they did push for her to win the whole thing, but I think even they would have been satisfied with just keeping her around until near the end of the season.
I'm willing to bet that someone (could've been austin, McMahon himself, a member of the production/camera crew, whoever) went to the people in charge and said that it would have been impossible to keep her on any further, and they couldn't even get enough usable footage to make it look good, leaving them no choice but to cut her. Or they could have said that her complete lack of skill was putting her and everybody working with her in significant danger of becoming hurt (again, leaving them no choice but to cut her or possibly face a lawsuit if the worst happened).
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