ChitownKnight
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Post by ChitownKnight on Apr 21, 2011 12:37:04 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2011 13:05:28 GMT -5
It was actually the forties or fifties. It was when the newspapers actually reported the match results.
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Post by Session Moth is over on Apr 21, 2011 13:08:26 GMT -5
I think I always knew at wasn't real, even as a kid we seemed to know.
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Post by Citizen Zero on Apr 21, 2011 13:10:44 GMT -5
Around the time multiple-rebound irish whips became popular. Seriously, nothing in pro-wrestling looks more fake than that.
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Post by Thynny Fat Ass on Apr 21, 2011 13:13:38 GMT -5
Um, do me a favor dude.
Next time you're going to drop a bombshell like "WRESTLING IS SCRIPTED," please put a SPOILER ALERT in there.
Now I'm sad.
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Turd Ferguson
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Post by Turd Ferguson on Apr 21, 2011 13:13:40 GMT -5
Larry David told Thor Hansen's kids, who spread the word.
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Dave at the Movies
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Apr 21, 2011 13:16:53 GMT -5
People first started questioning the legitimacy of professional wrestling around the 1920s.
Frank Gotch retired in 1912 and due to that pro wrestling started to really wane in popularity.
The question is when it started to become a show rather than a legit sport. Some say matches were starting to be fixed going back to the 1880s but no one really knows. My guess is it became more of a show overall in the 1930s. Most pro wrestling before the 20s and 30s was most likely completely legit.
Ed Lewis, Billy Sandow, and Toots Mondt known as The Gold Dust Trio(possibly where WWF came up with the name of Goldust) started a promotion in the late 20s and are most credited for making wrestling more into a show or entertainment. Instead of matches lasting hours and what not they shortened them and added drama do the matches telling a story rather than actually fighting each other.
I think most people believe those three are the ones who drew the blue print for what professional wrestling became later on.
By the 1950s when wrestling got really popular again due to TV it was full on fixed and entertainment. Many people in the 50s question the legitimacy of it although I don't think the general population was smartened up until the 80s.
I think pro wrestling was just like boxing before the 20s. I think it wasn't until the 20s that it started to really become a show. It was due to the popularity of legit pro wrestling in the early 20th century that high school and college wrestling teams were started.
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Post by kevservo on Apr 21, 2011 13:20:59 GMT -5
Wait, wrestling is scripted?
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Apr 21, 2011 13:24:57 GMT -5
From the 50's to up around the 1992 steroid affair, it was the worst kept secret in the world. The business by and large just didn't like to talk about how it did things.
As for me? When I was seven.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Apr 21, 2011 13:27:59 GMT -5
1950s with TV. Though it was the Berzerker's matches that made me know it was scripted.
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Apr 21, 2011 13:38:43 GMT -5
1950s with TV. Though it was the Berzerker's matches that made me know it was scripted. Just purely out of curiosity, why the Berzerker? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2011 14:03:06 GMT -5
I was kind of a strange case - In the late '80s, I started watching WWF Superstars on Saturday mornings just like any of the other cartoon/action shows I liked as a kid, and I was surprised to find out that people thought it was real!
This was kind of the head-scratching equivalent of finding out that there was a group of people who thought the Ninja Turtles were real and another who disliked them simply because they were "fake."
Of course, when I was that young, I was in the camp of people who thought that it was faaar more "fake" than it actually was.
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Post by SenorCrest on Apr 21, 2011 18:15:41 GMT -5
People first started questioning the legitimacy of professional wrestling around the 1920s. Frank Gotch retired in 1912 and due to that pro wrestling started to really wane in popularity. The question is when it started to become a show rather than a legit sport. Some say matches were starting to be fixed going back to the 1880s but no one really knows. My guess is it became more of a show overall in the 1930s. Most pro wrestling before the 20s and 30s was most likely completely legit. Ed Lewis, Billy Sandow, and Toots Mondt known as The Gold Dust Trio(possibly where WWF came up with the name of Goldust) started a promotion in the late 20s and are most credited for making wrestling more into a show or entertainment. Instead of matches lasting hours and what not they shortened them and added drama do the matches telling a story rather than actually fighting each other. I think most people believe those three are the ones who drew the blue print for what professional wrestling became later on. By the 1950s when wrestling got really popular again due to TV it was full on fixed and entertainment. Many people in the 50s question the legitimacy of it although I don't think the general population was smartened up until the 80s. I think pro wrestling was just like boxing before the 20s. I think it wasn't until the 20s that it started to really become a show. It was due to the popularity of legit pro wrestling in the early 20th century that high school and college wrestling teams were started. wow I love this post right here. I thought you were doing it in sarcasm but I kept reading and I was like wow. I remember my teacher trying to convince us that wwf was fake and I remember shouting 'but it says sports entertainment...' and then I looked around as everyone just no sold my statement I knew that was my future.  |
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Post by Phil Parent on Apr 21, 2011 18:39:58 GMT -5
When some American paper posted the results of the next night's card instead of posting the ad for the card, by accident.
Don't know the details, as in the all important date, but true story, that's how it happened.
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Post by Celgress on Apr 21, 2011 19:03:54 GMT -5
Wait, wrestling is scripted? I know *sniff*  |
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Apr 21, 2011 19:09:47 GMT -5
1950s with TV. Though it was the Berzerker's matches that made me know it was scripted. Just purely out of curiosity, why the Berzerker? I could see him mouth the moves and his kicks while the other guy was on the mat was no where near the guy. |
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Apr 21, 2011 19:15:09 GMT -5
Um, do me a favor dude. Next time you're going to drop a bombshell like "WRESTLING IS SCRIPTED," please put a SPOILER ALERT in there. Now I'm sad. Seriously, spoiler this thread. I'll go to the pap- uh, the mods if I have to.  |
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Post by Taupy on Apr 21, 2011 19:57:57 GMT -5
I found out it was fake at around 8-9 when I watched it with some friends on the slow-motion and saw that the punch were fake and that the head didn't touch the ground with the Tombstone.
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Post by woowoowoox on Apr 21, 2011 20:10:54 GMT -5
The internet made me accept realize that it's scripted.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 21, 2011 20:14:37 GMT -5
Ending kayfabe didn't cause people to know it wasn't legit. People knew for many decades before.
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