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Post by YellowJacketY2J on Apr 22, 2011 7:58:16 GMT -5
Orton has completed all his storylines on Raw and has nothing left to do. Is he going back to his home planet?
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Post by Brain Of F'n J on Apr 22, 2011 9:04:50 GMT -5
I say it's time to end the farce of equality between the shows. Make Raw your SUPERSTAR show, and make SD what ECW was: a televised developmental. Move Morrison, Ziggler, Cara, Bourne and Bryan over there, and have your veteran hands be Christian, Punk and (out of left field here) Regal. Send Kane and Show to Raw. Boom, SD is now far more work-rate heavy (shades of the Smackdown Six), and those guys like Morrison and Bourne and Ziggler who have tons of upside but are stuck under the main event logjam on Raw now have room to breathe and develop their characters alongside some skilled vets to guide them along. Jed Shaffer ~But, hey, this is WWE. Why use logic? Move Orton, problem solved!
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Post by CJ on Apr 22, 2011 9:07:02 GMT -5
{Spoiler}Might as well. I say let Raw be the Cena and Orton show while guys like Punk, Miz, Christian, Morrison, Rio, and Cara can be on Smackdown away from Cena, Orton, and Hunter honestly. that would be awesome...
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Post by HardKore on Apr 22, 2011 9:10:37 GMT -5
I say it's time to end the farce of equality between the shows. Make Raw your SUPERSTAR show, and make SD what ECW was: a televised developmental. Move Morrison, Ziggler, Cara, Bourne and Bryan over there, and have your veteran hands be Christian, Punk and (out of left field here) Regal. Send Kane and Show to Raw. Boom, SD is now far more work-rate heavy (shades of the Smackdown Six), and those guys like Morrison and Bourne and Ziggler who have tons of upside but are stuck under the main event logjam on Raw now have room to breathe and develop their characters alongside some skilled vets to guide them along. Jed Shaffer ~But, hey, this is WWE. Why use logic? Move Orton, problem solved! Meh I don't think Smackdown will still exist in 5 years so really it doesn't matter what they do with it.
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Post by Chip Jordan on Apr 22, 2011 9:16:16 GMT -5
Didn't Orton throw his toys out the last time he got drafted to Smackdown?
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Post by vm88 on Apr 22, 2011 9:29:08 GMT -5
{Spoiler}If Del Rio moves to Raw, I won't be surprised. I mean, he has been a featured player on Raw since the beginning of the year, though he is a Smackdown Superstar.
The thing that gets me is trading Del Rio for Miz. You take Miz's momentum away if they traded him to Smackdown, cause he's pratically the top heel of the WWE.
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Post by cabbageboy on Apr 22, 2011 9:31:05 GMT -5
Isn't it sad that this draft possibility seems designed to give Cena someone else to feud with because the Miz feud has largely flopped in every non Rock instance?
The booking for the Extreme Rules main event is troubling. They really, really needed to put the belt on Del Rio at WM. That was one of the dumber booking moves in quite some time actually. Now Edge retires as champ for no real reason, Christian gets a shot and likely dedicates the match to his retiring best friend....and then he'll job anyway. Ideally they ought to just put the belt on Christian for a short time and Del Rio can win it in the summer. In fact rather than feeding Del Rio to Cena they ought to build Christian vs. Del Rio up for SS.
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Post by Topher is Human on Apr 22, 2011 9:31:56 GMT -5
I can't see them trading Miz. I mean he is a MAJOR player for the WWE when it comes to the media, he has been making more public appearences on other programs doing late night interviews and the like, than anyone else on the roster.
Why would you want to take that man off of your flagship show.
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Post by Cronant on Apr 22, 2011 9:32:36 GMT -5
I say it's time to end the farce of equality between the shows. Make Raw your SUPERSTAR show, and make SD what ECW was: a televised developmental. Move Morrison, Ziggler, Cara, Bourne and Bryan over there, and have your veteran hands be Christian, Punk and (out of left field here) Regal. Send Kane and Show to Raw. Boom, SD is now far more work-rate heavy (shades of the Smackdown Six), and those guys like Morrison and Bourne and Ziggler who have tons of upside but are stuck under the main event logjam on Raw now have room to breathe and develop their characters alongside some skilled vets to guide them along. Jed Shaffer ~But, hey, this is WWE. Why use logic? Move Orton, problem solved! Who does that help though? Unless you want the WHC to open Wrestlemania again, and look like a glorified IC title. The program has constantly moved stations. They NEED something big to at least try to keep the show. And the main event logjam on RAW isn't even real. Miz is handling it just fine. So did Sheamus. And Barrett fared alot better on RAW than on Smackdown. Its not 2009. on Christian for a short time and Del Rio can win it in the summer. In fact rather than feeding Del Rio to Cena they ought to build Christian vs. Del Rio up for SS. The entire 'feeding' sounds so stupid. Its the same crap people were saying when Sheamus got his first title shot against Cena.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Apr 22, 2011 9:33:55 GMT -5
This is a really stupid idea. Christian should win the title, if only for a month, and del Rio really isn't nearly significant enough to be headlining SummerSlam. And Miz has way too much momentum to drop him to the B-show. Del Rio won the Royal Rumble and got a World Title shot at Wrestlemania. How does that make him inadequate to headline Summerslam?
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Post by YellowJacketY2J on Apr 22, 2011 9:57:15 GMT -5
This is a really stupid idea. Christian should win the title, if only for a month, and del Rio really isn't nearly significant enough to be headlining SummerSlam. And Miz has way too much momentum to drop him to the B-show. Del Rio won the Royal Rumble and got a World Title shot at Wrestlemania. How does that make him inadequate to headline Summerslam? Hell, Darren Young main evented Summerslam!
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Post by blake6905 on Apr 22, 2011 10:18:52 GMT -5
Meltzer is an idiot...Miz is not going anywhere...
Send Daniel Bryan to smackdown and get him ready for the main event scene/raw
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Post by comahan on Apr 22, 2011 10:20:44 GMT -5
It would be a pretty big mistake to move Miz from Raw, in my eyes. There's a buzz when Miz comes out to the ring, much like Orton in late 08/early 09, and I think hes on the verge of being HUGE. Moving him to the b show could kill that.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Apr 22, 2011 10:22:53 GMT -5
I still see Orton going for sure (he's done everything there is to do on Raw, feuded with everyone twice over and is big enough to headline Smackdown), but why put Miz on the B-Show if they spent all this time building him up?
I guess I'd say Orton, Morrison, Bryan, and Sheamus head to Smackdown, while Swagger, Kofi, Big Show, and Kane head to Smackdown.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2011 11:09:54 GMT -5
I'm guessing Orton is moving too Smackdown. Wasn't his match against CM Punk on the last Raw was the feud ender? I also see a Raw heel getting drafted to Smackdown but turns into a babyface during the first night on the brand (Morrison/Mark Henry 2009)
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Post by FailedGimmick on Apr 22, 2011 11:16:17 GMT -5
Wasn't his match against CM Punk on the last Raw was the feud ender? They have a Last Man Standing match at Extreme Rules.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 22, 2011 11:20:59 GMT -5
Wait... so if Smackdown is in a major need for a top babyface... Why would they swap the two heels around? Exactly the thought that hit me.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Apr 22, 2011 11:21:05 GMT -5
It's a good move.
Both guys have feuded with the main event faces available on each respective brand so switching them makes sense.
I can also see Morrison and Bourne moving to Smackdown to pad out the brand a bit with a few babyfaces with maybe Kane heading over to Raw to give the brand an upper-midcard face.
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Post by Society of the Spectacle on Apr 22, 2011 11:23:21 GMT -5
It's discouraging that the company loses faith in people so fast. Mind you, that's probably a reflection of their audience as well, and their irrational fears are only apparent to those like us, that study and critique (for better or worse, everyone's a critic) these decisions.
They've put so much time, money, and energy into Del Rio and Christian (so many Smackdown main events) that you'd think they'd feel comfortable by now letting them fight over the strap. The Miz on RAW too.
It might be cool to have Smackdown as a more blatant "workrate" show with Bryan, Punk, Morrison, Ziggler, etc. but we all know it won't happen as, as much as the office treats Orton and Cena and others like they are the only ones that matter, they need people to make them look good, and WWE seems very scared to sacrafice one mega star's heat for another. I guess their reasoning is why have Cena and Orton fight each other when they can completely obliterate lower people in their own separate feuds?
I don't want to be cynical, but it just makes me sad that a lot of talented guys are going to be staying in the midcard until the office's hand is completely forced by age or injury. And by that time, those midcard guys might be unmotivated, tired, or cynical.
Why not use talented people when they are hungry and talented? Why not use megastars to boost up talented midcarders so that more compelling stories (with not so obvious endings) can be told. Nexus was compelling when it first started, but WWE seemed to have gotten so scared that they backed off. Maybe it's economics, maybe it's backstage politics, but eventually the office is going to have to use these guys they are waiting for a chance to rise.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 22, 2011 11:26:45 GMT -5
I guess their reasoning is why have Cena and Orton fight each other when they can completely obliterate lower people in their own separate feuds? There's that, but there's also the fact that they've fought each other so many freakin' times, that most fans never want to see them fight again. Seriously. Their staredowns at the Royal Rumble got Conway popped for crying out loud.
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