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Post by rapidfire187 on Mar 28, 2011 23:33:38 GMT -5
It never crossed my mind that The Miz was losing credibility, so I think no. The fact that he had the balls to attack the Rock may have helped him more than anything.
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Post by Raja Lion on Mar 28, 2011 23:41:42 GMT -5
It never crossed my mind that The Miz was losing credibility, so I think no. The fact that he had the balls to attack the Rock may have helped him more than anything. He didnt attack him though. He and Riley attacked him and they were destroyed. I agree that Miz didn't have much credibility to begin with. Does anyone even care about the belt? I know I sure don't.
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Post by sher on Mar 28, 2011 23:43:07 GMT -5
I'm a bit biased, since I actually like Miz quite a bit, but even with that being said, I gotta say that I like Miz a lot more without Riley. although I adored their bromance chemistry before Cena split them up, I personally think Miz did his best work in this whole feud when he was by himself. Having Riley by his side last week and tonight kind of stole away a bit of the badassness he was just starting to develop by demolishing Cena four weeks in a row.
I liked that he had the balls to step up and bad mouth Rocky... But having Riley next to him acting like an overeager little brother, and having HIM be the one to throw the first punch was just bad booking on Creative's end. Give Riley his own feud with someone else, let Miz take on his challenges by himself, and make him actually put up a bit more of a fight while getting pummeled - that'll give him credibility.
But then again, he plays the part of sneaky, cheating heel - so I guess credibility isn't exactly a huge part of that particular formula.
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Post by The Great El' PANDA King on Mar 28, 2011 23:44:33 GMT -5
He is gonna main event Mania, probably win (it would be stupid if he didn't) and is in a feud with the two biggest stars in the past 15 years.
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Post by slashandburn on Mar 28, 2011 23:45:18 GMT -5
He said he reinvented WWE by turning the beltplate upside-down. His credibility was shot a long time ago. Yeah, they had a really good oppertunity with the Rewriting Miz-tory segment and it was just a complete raspberry from start to finish. "I've turned the mic sleeve upside down so it makes an "M". "The centerplate is upside down now...making an "M"...for Miz you see." Yes, we see that you have a minimal recognition of basic elementry letter shapes. Can I have those five minutes of my life back now? I think Miz has been really exposed with this angle. He's a great promo, sure, but standing in the ring with Cena and Rock he looks like a kid trying to hang with the grown ups. Someday, I'm sure he'll be back to the main event, but I see this title run experiment ending shortly. Keep in mind, I don't dislike Miz. I just think it's a little soon to buy him as a credible main eventer and that segment really did him no favours. I fault the writing more than anything. It made him look like an idiot. The difference is, guys like Cena and Rock could have made that work. Miz isn't at that level(yet). I also think that Miz should have been the one to take the first shot at the Rock, not Riley. Miz should have left his flunky to take the elbow after narrowly avoiding a Rock Bottom. That way it gives us something to look forward to at Mania. Those two issues aside, I really enjoyed Raw's buildup for all of the Mania matches tonight. It was pretty effective across the board. Thank you so much for putting into words what I couldn't.
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Post by kevservo on Mar 28, 2011 23:48:41 GMT -5
I don't think it was. He'd been kicking Cena's ass for weeks, Cena HAD to get one over on him at some point. Turning the WWE logo on the belt upside down hurt him more than this did.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Mar 28, 2011 23:49:41 GMT -5
It never crossed my mind that The Miz was losing credibility, so I think no. The fact that he had the balls to attack the Rock may have helped him more than anything. He didnt attack him though. He and Riley attacked him and they were destroyed. I agree that Miz didn't have much credibility to begin with. Does anyone even care about the belt? I know I sure don't. I see your point, but make no mistakes about it, The Rock is THE star of Wrestlemania. The Miz/Cena match is simply not that interesting on it's own, and like it or not, The Rock was brought in to make the main event seem like a big deal. Still, I think the fact that Miz/Riley attacked him was a bit of a surprise. Sure, they got their asses kicked, but they're douchebag heels, they're supposed to get beat up. The truth is, I now actually think Miz has a chance of retaining the belt, whereas I thought it was a foregone conclusion that Cena would win. Maybe I'm just an idiot, but the segment (and entire show) was very effective to me.
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Post by Raja Lion on Mar 28, 2011 23:50:26 GMT -5
He is gonna main event Mania, probably win (it would be stupid if he didn't) and is in a feud with the two biggest stars in the past 15 years. But this is part of my point. He is going to be there. Does anyone give a crap about his involvement at this point? Only thing people care about is Rock/Cena. Agreed and well said. Go back to that cage match with Riley and look at Miz try to give Cena the Skull Crushing Finale outside the cage. He looks like a teenager.
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Post by Raja Lion on Mar 28, 2011 23:51:48 GMT -5
He didnt attack him though. He and Riley attacked him and they were destroyed. I agree that Miz didn't have much credibility to begin with. Does anyone even care about the belt? I know I sure don't. I see your point, but make no mistakes about it, The Rock is THE star of Wrestlemania. The Miz/Cena match is simply not that interesting on it's own, and like it or not, The Rock was brought in to make the main event seem like a big deal. Still, I think the fact that Miz/Riley attacked him was a bit of a surprise. Sure, they got their asses kicked, but they're douchebag heels, they're supposed to get beat up. The truth is, I now actually think Miz has a chance of retaining the belt, whereas I thought it was a foregone conclusion that Cena would win. Maybe I'm just an idiot, but the segment (and entire show) was very effective to me. Sure, I understand that, and I can definitely see how they have a way for Miz to win, as Rock/Cena causes a distraction and Miz capitalizes. Its going to be really interesting to see where this match is on the card. If its the main event, I see no way Miz goes over and Id be pretty stunned if he did. If its sooner on the card, I could see Miz getting the win.
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Post by kevin on Mar 28, 2011 23:59:07 GMT -5
I do not think it hurt his credibility even a little bit. In this feud the Miz has stood tall with the Rock and Cena and showed that he belonged. One setback does not hurt that at all. Miz has already used the build to Wrestlemania to fully insert himself as a main eventer. No one night will undo that.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Mar 28, 2011 23:59:27 GMT -5
Not to go on a rant, but given that he's practically handed Cena during every other confrontation, how has he lost cred? He puts over the Rock (most superstars probably would) and Cena "takes him out" with a sneak attack. I'd say the Rock has been over-exposed, and Miz under-exposed, but as it stands, Cena has yet to significantly get one over on the Miz.
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Post by lookout on Mar 29, 2011 0:02:28 GMT -5
The most amazing thing I find about the entire thing was that the FIRST person to hit the rock after all this time was.....alex freaking riley.
The wwe champion is supposed to be your star...not sure the miz looked that good tonight...although in prior weeks he has looked really good. But for the go home show, not sure that's what you want. Still, if the miz ends up retaining at wrestlemania, none of this matters...which I have a feeling he will.
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Post by joebob27 on Mar 29, 2011 0:20:28 GMT -5
It's possible Riley screwed up again. Hell, it's probable.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Mar 29, 2011 0:34:36 GMT -5
No, because they never bothered to build up any credibility for him in the first place. This.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Mar 29, 2011 1:24:15 GMT -5
Miz lost credibility as a champion when he won the belt and started feuding with an announcer.
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Post by Joe Galt on Mar 29, 2011 8:44:35 GMT -5
No, because he is playing the heel the right way. People hate him and believe that he doesn`t deserve to be a champion. He proves them right. IMHO, the longer he holds the title this way, the better.
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Post by Spearmint* on Mar 29, 2011 9:06:52 GMT -5
He doesn't need credibility. Not every heel has to go on 10 month long winning streaks . Some can you know, be heels?
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Post by Joe Galt on Mar 29, 2011 9:10:19 GMT -5
He doesn't need credibility. Not every heel as to go on 10 month long winning streaks clean. Some can you know, be heels? Exactly! I am a huge fan of the Miz because I think he plays the part to perfection.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Mar 29, 2011 9:36:24 GMT -5
I was not irritated on them hurting Miz's credibility as he is a heel that is not supposed to have much. I was irritated that the title was not put over. How can you make your title an afterthought? WWE has done that a couple of times over the years and it makes no sense to me.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Mar 29, 2011 9:50:08 GMT -5
He is gonna main event Mania So did Lawrence Taylor.
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