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Post by Stu on Mar 25, 2011 20:23:59 GMT -5
Okay, here's the deal. Right now, the only Divas match at Wrestlemania involves two fulltime employees, a returning employee and a guest celebrity. I'm aware there are a lot of people around the forums who would just as well have no Diva involvement Wrestlemania at all, but I feel they deserve at least one match. Unfortunately, said match isn't, IMO, the one we should be having.
Considering who's been significant over the last few months, you'd think other girls would be on the show. Thus, does anyone think a fourway tag team match would have worked? We could have had Laycool vs Kelly/Eve vs The Bellas vs Natalya/Beth.
What do you all think? Would that match have worked?
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Post by Tim on Mar 25, 2011 20:41:47 GMT -5
They could throw in Melina/Maryse and have a cool Tag Team Turmoil match.
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Post by Steveweiser on Mar 25, 2011 20:45:01 GMT -5
We haven't had the correct Divas match at Mania for three of the past four Manias...
23: Melina vs. Mickie (Melina vs. Ashley)
24: Beth vs. Mickie (Beth & Melina vs. Maria & Ashley)
25: Battle Royal was probably right, but they should have booked it better
26: Michelle vs. Beth vs. Mickie (10 Diva Tag)
This year's should have featured Kong's debut.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Mar 25, 2011 22:24:55 GMT -5
We haven't had the correct Divas match at Mania for three of the past four Manias... 23: Melina vs. Mickie (Melina vs. Ashley) 24: Beth vs. Mickie (Beth & Melina vs. Maria & Ashley) 25: Battle Royal was probably right, but they should have booked it better26: Michelle vs. Beth vs. Mickie (10 Diva Tag) This year's should have featured Kong's debut. They sure as hell shouldn't have given it to "Santina". Not that I don't find him funny, I do. But the fact that it was a joke battle royal to begin with A) left a lot of people not taking it, or the divas, seriously, B) left the ones who did take it seriously with bad tastes in their mouths, and C) unattracted Lita and Trish from participating. But with that said, WWE needs Mickie bad. Real bad. Hell, they need to kill off the divas division altogether, bring back the Women's Title and start from scratch. [insert "Vince neuralizer" gif. here] |
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Post by sarun on Mar 26, 2011 0:38:18 GMT -5
Nah, with Corre match yet to be finalized and Drew and Christian should make the card before Divas.
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Mar 26, 2011 3:45:41 GMT -5
We haven't had the correct Divas match at Mania for three of the past four Manias... 23: Melina vs. Mickie (Melina vs. Ashley) 24: Beth vs. Mickie (Beth & Melina vs. Maria & Ashley) 25: Battle Royal was probably right, but they should have booked it better 26: Michelle vs. Beth vs. Mickie (10 Diva Tag) This year's should have featured Kong's debut. No bias there.  The correct list: 23: Melina vs. Ashley(correct) 24: Beth vs. Maria(Beth & Melina vs. Maria & Ashley) 25: Battle Royal(correct) 26: Michelle vs. Beth(10 Diva Tag) - |
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Mar 26, 2011 9:50:53 GMT -5
We haven't had the correct Divas match at Mania for three of the past four Manias... 23: Melina vs. Mickie (Melina vs. Ashley) 24: Beth vs. Mickie (Beth & Melina vs. Maria & Ashley) 25: Battle Royal was probably right, but they should have booked it better 26: Michelle vs. Beth vs. Mickie (10 Diva Tag) This year's should have featured Kong's debut. No bias there. The correct list: 23: Melina vs. Ashley(correct) 24: Beth vs. Maria(Beth & Melina vs. Maria & Ashley) 25: Battle Royal(correct) 26: Michelle vs. Beth(10 Diva Tag) - Actually he has a point about Wrestlemania 23. Melina was feuding with Mickie, then they suddenly dropped it for Ashley and her Playboy push. Then they went right back to Melina v Mickie the next night. |
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Post by Vince's Torn Quads on Mar 26, 2011 10:10:30 GMT -5
I thought that Nattie should have kept the title (I mean, Eve, seriously, WTF?) and Beth should have turned on her before WM making a big showdown. You know, a good feud between the two who can actually wrestle and more than likely have a good match.
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Post by clifford on Mar 26, 2011 10:25:12 GMT -5
I'll repost what I said in the Wrestlemania thread regarding the divas match:
I must say after TLC last December I felt we were in a real good position to have a great feud leading a great woman's match at Mania. After Beth and Nattie beat Laycool, I would have had them bring in Kong at the Rumble to beat Nattie with the stipulation being if Kong won Laycool would be awarded the Diva's title. (She'd look silly with the title anyway).
From there I'd have built to a Four Way at Mania: Michelle McCool representing herself and Layla Vs. Kong (as insurance) Vs. Nattie Vs. Beth. Beth would win at Mania, leading to feuds with Kong and Nattie down the road.
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Post by pink on Mar 26, 2011 10:57:18 GMT -5
We haven't had the correct Divas match at Mania for three of the past four Manias... 23: Melina vs. Mickie (Melina vs. Ashley) 24: Beth vs. Mickie (Beth & Melina vs. Maria & Ashley) 25: Battle Royal was probably right, but they should have booked it better 26: Michelle vs. Beth vs. Mickie (10 Diva Tag) This year's should have featured Kong's debut. Actually, for WM 24 I thought the match was going to be Beth vs Mickie vs Candice. But then Candice got injured again. What I originally thought was going to happen for this Wrestlemania was to have a fatal-four way with Michelle vs Layla vs Beth vs Nattie, but then Eve won the title and screwed that up. So after that, the best we could've gotten was Eve against a heel like Maryse or Melina. But then the Bellas messed that up and here we are, about a week away from Wrestlemania, with no actual divas match. And I know alot people weren't itching for a divas match anyway, but I figure that for all the efforts they put in throughout the year they could at least have one match on the biggest card of the year. |
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Mar 26, 2011 13:17:18 GMT -5
No bias there. The correct list: 23: Melina vs. Ashley(correct) 24: Beth vs. Maria(Beth & Melina vs. Maria & Ashley) 25: Battle Royal(correct) 26: Michelle vs. Beth(10 Diva Tag) - Actually he has a point about Wrestlemania 23. Melina was feuding with Mickie, then they suddenly dropped it for Ashley and her Playboy push. Then they went right back to Melina v Mickie the next night. I suppose so. Memory is a lttle fuzzy. However his Mania 26 match was his fantasy and his alone. They were clearly setting up Beth vs. Michelle and for whatever reason went the 10 man tag route. |
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Mar 26, 2011 13:24:05 GMT -5
We haven't had the correct Divas match at Mania for three of the past four Manias... 23: Melina vs. Mickie (Melina vs. Ashley) 24: Beth vs. Mickie (Beth & Melina vs. Maria & Ashley) 25: Battle Royal was probably right, but they should have booked it better 26: Michelle vs. Beth vs. Mickie (10 Diva Tag) This year's should have featured Kong's debut. Actually, for WM 24 I thought the match was going to be Beth vs Mickie vs Candice. But then Candice got injured again. Wrong. Wrestlemaina 24 was Maria's Playboy push. Ashley started the angle by asking Maria to do Playboy and Santino objected. In the process of that, Santion and Beth form Glamarella. Ashley gets injured, so they rush Candice back to replace her. It was going to be Maria/Candice vs. Beth/Melina, but they put Candice back in the ring too soon and she re breaks her collarbone. So, they go back to the original plans of Ashely/Maria vs. Beth Melina. Mickie was nowhere to be found during this whole angle outside of being a lumberjack and being aprt of the mob that attacked Santino the night after. |
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Post by pink on Mar 26, 2011 15:41:04 GMT -5
We haven't had the correct Divas match at Mania for three of the past four Manias... 23: Melina vs. Mickie (Melina vs. Ashley) 24: Beth vs. Mickie (Beth & Melina vs. Maria & Ashley) 25: Battle Royal was probably right, but they should have booked it better 26: Michelle vs. Beth vs. Mickie (10 Diva Tag) This year's should have featured Kong's debut. Actually, for WM 24 I thought the match was going to be Beth vs Mickie vs Candice. But then Candice got injured again. Wrong. Wrestlemaina 24 was Maria's Playboy push. Ashley started the angle by asking Maria to do Playboy and Santino objected. In the process of that, Santion and Beth form Glamarella. Ashley gets injured, so they rush Candice back to replace her. It was going to be Maria/Candice vs. Beth/Melina, but they put Candice back in the ring too soon and she re breaks her collarbone. So, they go back to the original plans of Ashely/Maria vs. Beth Melina. Mickie was nowhere to be found during this whole angle outside of being a lumberjack and being aprt of the mob that attacked Santino the night after. Well before the whole Playboy extravaganza, Mickie was in a feud with Beth and developed a losing streak with her, making Mickie upset. Candice, when she came back, would want to get revenge on Beth for injuring her and stealing her title. This could've all been solved if we had Beth vs Mickie vs Candice, and if Candice still got injured just have Maria sub for her. |
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Post by PKO on Mar 26, 2011 17:01:30 GMT -5
At the start of the year I was anticipating what they'd do at Wrestlemania with the Diva's. Natalya was having a great run with the Diva's title and her facing Beth was a good possibilty (and would have made a great match). Now Eve is (pointlessly) the champ and the Diva's are probably at their weakest point in years. I think they should just keep the rest of the Diva's off Wrestlemania; if they make a match on RAW then that is about 5 minutes build for a WM match. Pointless. Actually, for WM 24 I thought the match was going to be Beth vs Mickie vs Candice. But then Candice got injured again. Wrong. Wrestlemaina 24 was Maria's Playboy push. Ashley started the angle by asking Maria to do Playboy and Santino objected. In the process of that, Santion and Beth form Glamarella. Ashley gets injured, so they rush Candice back to replace her. It was going to be Maria/Candice vs. Beth/Melina, but they put Candice back in the ring too soon and she re breaks her collarbone. So, they go back to the original plans of Ashely/Maria vs. Beth Melina. Mickie was nowhere to be found during this whole angle outside of being a lumberjack and being aprt of the mob that attacked Santino the night after. Well before the whole Playboy extravaganza, Mickie was in a feud with Beth and developed a losing streak with her, making Mickie upset. Candice, when she came back, would want to get revenge on Beth for injuring her and stealing her title. This could've all been solved if we had Beth vs Mickie vs Candice, and if Candice still got injured just have Maria sub for her. I'm pretty sure that it was going to be Beth vs Mickie vs Candice for the title (or at least Beth vs Mickie with some form of Candice involvement) and then Melina & Jillian vs Maria & Ashley. If you look back that's what they were building towards: Maria started a mini-feud with Melina (who started having Jillian accompany her to the ring), while Ashley was trying to persuade her to do Playboy. Meanwhile, Beth was constantly defeating Mickie, and video packages were airing hyping Candice's return. Then Ashley mysteriously got taken off TV, so Beth got put in Jillian's place and they rushed Candice back to replace Ashley (even though she was still hurt). |
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Post by Big L on Mar 26, 2011 20:47:16 GMT -5
I thought that Nattie should have kept the title (I mean, Eve, seriously, WTF?) and Beth should have turned on her before WM making a big showdown. You know, a good feud between the two who can actually wrestle and more than likely have a good match. I know right |
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Mar 27, 2011 7:52:40 GMT -5
Actually, for WM 24 I thought the match was going to be Beth vs Mickie vs Candice. But then Candice got injured again. Wrong. Wrestlemaina 24 was Maria's Playboy push. Ashley started the angle by asking Maria to do Playboy and Santino objected. In the process of that, Santion and Beth form Glamarella. Ashley gets injured, so they rush Candice back to replace her. It was going to be Maria/Candice vs. Beth/Melina, but they put Candice back in the ring too soon and she re breaks her collarbone. So, they go back to the original plans of Ashely/Maria vs. Beth Melina. Mickie was nowhere to be found during this whole angle outside of being a lumberjack and being aprt of the mob that attacked Santino the night after. Well before the whole Playboy extravaganza, Mickie was in a feud with Beth and developed a losing streak with her, making Mickie upset. Candice, when she came back, would want to get revenge on Beth for injuring her and stealing her title. This could've all been solved if we had Beth vs Mickie vs Candice, and if Candice still got injured just have Maria sub for her. They had two months of build up for Maria that they screwed up in many ways which would have been avoided if they had just gone Maria/Beth with Candice in Maria's corner. Candice gets her revenge, Maria gets a short reign with the belt. Then you let Mickie finally get her win over Beth thanks to Maria/Candice leading to Beth/Maria rematch. That match gets the belt back to Beth from Maria to transition to Beth/Candice. Nicely tied up and you avoid the BS of the tag match and the following RAW. |
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Post by pink on Mar 27, 2011 11:45:14 GMT -5
Well before the whole Playboy extravaganza, Mickie was in a feud with Beth and developed a losing streak with her, making Mickie upset. Candice, when she came back, would want to get revenge on Beth for injuring her and stealing her title. This could've all been solved if we had Beth vs Mickie vs Candice, and if Candice still got injured just have Maria sub for her. They had two months of build up for Maria that they screwed up in many ways which would have been avoided if they had just gone Maria/Beth with Candice in Maria's corner. Candice gets her revenge, Maria gets a short reign with the belt. Then you let Mickie finally get her win over Beth thanks to Maria/Candice leading to Beth/Maria rematch. That match gets the belt back to Beth from Maria to transition to Beth/Candice. Nicely tied up and you avoid the BS of the tag match and the following RAW. Wow, that was some really good booking. Well done sir. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2011 11:50:57 GMT -5
At the start of the year I was anticipating what they'd do at Wrestlemania with the Diva's. Natalya was having a great run with the Diva's title and her facing Beth was a good possibilty (and would have made a great match). Now Eve is (pointlessly) the champ and the Diva's are probably at their weakest point in years. I think they should just keep the rest of the Diva's off Wrestlemania; if they make a match on RAW then that is about 5 minutes build for a WM match. Pointless. Well before the whole Playboy extravaganza, Mickie was in a feud with Beth and developed a losing streak with her, making Mickie upset. Candice, when she came back, would want to get revenge on Beth for injuring her and stealing her title. This could've all been solved if we had Beth vs Mickie vs Candice, and if Candice still got injured just have Maria sub for her. I'm pretty sure that it was going to be Beth vs Mickie vs Candice for the title (or at least Beth vs Mickie with some form of Candice involvement) and then Melina & Jillian vs Maria & Ashley. If you look back that's what they were building towards: Maria started a mini-feud with Melina (who started having Jillian accompany her to the ring), while Ashley was trying to persuade her to do Playboy. Meanwhile, Beth was constantly defeating Mickie, and video packages were airing hyping Candice's return. Then Ashley mysteriously got taken off TV, so Beth got put in Jillian's place and they rushed Candice back to replace Ashley (even though she was still hurt). If I can mention something--Beth didn't just arbitrarily get put in Jillian's place. They had been very slowly building up to to the Beth vs Melina storyline (pretty much since Beth redebuted as Melina's 'secret weapon' against Candice), and those two teaming up against Ashley and Maria was a way of furthering their storyline in addition to doing the Ashley/Maria storyline over Playboy. They had booked that quite intelligently. They gave four women a WM spot, furthering two storylines by having them arc into one, while at the same time, they continued to have Mickie as Beth's biggest threat and arch-rival for a few months afterward (as well as during Melina's injury) to let her stay as relevant as possible as well. 2008 was a brilliant year for the divas in that respect. I think 2007 would have been even better, but it was kind of tarnished by Ashley getting a WM spotlight in a singles match, not to mention Candice's ridiculous push a few months later. |
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Post by Mermaidman on Mar 27, 2011 12:15:31 GMT -5
Can't see Trish staying post mania.
The division is much worse than when she was full time WWE Diva.
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Post by pink on Mar 27, 2011 12:20:58 GMT -5
At the start of the year I was anticipating what they'd do at Wrestlemania with the Diva's. Natalya was having a great run with the Diva's title and her facing Beth was a good possibilty (and would have made a great match). Now Eve is (pointlessly) the champ and the Diva's are probably at their weakest point in years. I think they should just keep the rest of the Diva's off Wrestlemania; if they make a match on RAW then that is about 5 minutes build for a WM match. Pointless. I'm pretty sure that it was going to be Beth vs Mickie vs Candice for the title (or at least Beth vs Mickie with some form of Candice involvement) and then Melina & Jillian vs Maria & Ashley. If you look back that's what they were building towards: Maria started a mini-feud with Melina (who started having Jillian accompany her to the ring), while Ashley was trying to persuade her to do Playboy. Meanwhile, Beth was constantly defeating Mickie, and video packages were airing hyping Candice's return. Then Ashley mysteriously got taken off TV, so Beth got put in Jillian's place and they rushed Candice back to replace Ashley (even though she was still hurt). If I can mention something--Beth didn't just arbitrarily get put in Jillian's place. They had been very slowly building up to to the Beth vs Melina storyline (pretty much since Beth redebuted as Melina's 'secret weapon' against Candice), and those two teaming up against Ashley and Maria was a way of furthering their storyline in addition to doing the Ashley/Maria storyline over Playboy. They had booked that quite intelligently. They gave four women a WM spot, furthering two storylines by having them arc into one, while at the same time, they continued to have Mickie as Beth's biggest threat and arch-rival for a few months afterward (as well as during Melina's injury) to let her stay as relevant as possible as well. 2008 was a brilliant year for the divas in that respect. I think 2007 would have been even better, but it was kind of tarnished by Ashley getting a WM spotlight in a singles match, not to mention Candice's ridiculous push a few months later. 2008 was a good year, particularly because you had Mickie, Beth, Katie Lea, ande Melina all giving good matches, while the Divas title on Smackdown also had some okay matches. But I'll defend 2007 for these reasons: *Mickie vs Melina at Backlash is terrific. *Candice winning the Women's title was great, ecspecially because she improved alot in the ring and was a very good top babyface. *Beth vs Candice was a good feud. *Beth's first title reign was awesome because she had this big aura of invincibility that she doesn't neccesarliy have now. |
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