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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 27, 2011 22:16:54 GMT -5
EDIT: Other then maybe against Orton, I've yet to see a convincing argument as to why someone should end the streak. Because if they don't, it's 20 years of wasted build for a fast ticket to perpetual over-ness and sales? I just don't see anyway it makes sense, and anyway it helps someone's career in the long term If it's a young up and comer, then people won't buy into it. It'll go over like a fart in church, and if they pulled a Lashley or Lesnar then it's a complete waste. If it's an established talent, then there's no need to give them that rub. It wouldn't make them any more over, and it might actually hurt them in the long run. Besides, The Streak is basically 'Taker's Lifetime Achievement Award, and after 20 years of all 'Taker's done for Vince and WWE he deserves it. It's his thing, 20-0 will likely lead to him riding into the sunset. The negatives of ending it totally outweigh the positives. Ending the streak would be like benching a baseball player when he's about to play game number 2,633. It's just not necessary
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Post by mrjl on Mar 27, 2011 22:26:42 GMT -5
EDIT: Other then maybe against Orton, I've yet to see a convincing argument as to why someone should end the streak. Because if they don't, it's 20 years of wasted build for a fast ticket to perpetual over-ness and sales? and if they do have him lose it's also 20 years of wasted build. The builds of everyone who didn't get the W. WWE promotes more cards than Wrestlemania and the Streak is a reward for excellent long time service. It also shows how tough he is by laways winning at the biggest show of the year. But it can also be used as build for later cards. He can get people over by letting them beat him on other shows
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Post by blake6905 on Mar 27, 2011 22:43:35 GMT -5
I didnt read anyone elses response so sorry If I repeat something....but here is my way of making this work...
He has to turn heel the raw after mania. He also has to go on an undefeated streak from that Raw all the way to next years Mania. He has to cut Promos about being the best in the world every week. At the Summerslam, he unifies the world titles after defeating John Cena and Cody Rhodes(yeah I said it). He then cuts a promo saying that he has beaten everyone and proved that he is the best in the world. He says there is noone for him to fight at Mania that he already hasnt beat....(GONG) start building it up for two months...
but I like the guy....but dont let him or anyone else end it.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Mar 27, 2011 22:50:16 GMT -5
Is this a joke? Unless Bryan Danielson goes on an undefeated streak between now and next WM and wins every belt in the process (that is, Divas and tag-team by himself, too), then the suggestion is preposterous.
I love Bryan Danielson. He has no business breaking 'Taker's streak. Frankly, nobody does.
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Post by "Dashing" Dr.VonPhoenix on Mar 27, 2011 22:53:57 GMT -5
I'm okay with DBD. A fan, but not a HUGE mark. And I will always love the Undertaker. However, I could totally see it happening. The thing about it is, DBD couldn't do it and just be the well-known "American Dragon" any longer. It would mean an epic, decisive, and likely permanent change to his character and the way he was marketed. This could possibly be the greatest thing ever done. Which makes it extremely unlikely that it will occur.
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Post by Altabane on Mar 27, 2011 22:54:30 GMT -5
Honestly no. Not only because it would never ever happen, but because the streak shouldn't be broken.
In some crazy Universe where DB did break the streak? They would need to push it for the rest of his career. If they didn't mention Daniel destroyed the Undertaker after every notable match he had from then on, it would be a total waste.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Mar 27, 2011 22:56:43 GMT -5
I'm okay with DBD. A fan, but not a HUGE mark. And I will always love the Undertaker. However, I could totally see it happening. The thing about it is, DBD couldn't do it and just be the well-known "American Dragon" any longer. It would mean an epic, decisive, and likely permanent change to his character and the way he was marketed. This could possibly be the greatest thing ever done. Which makes it extremely unlikely that it will occur. Not that he needs it and not that it will ever happen, the only guy I can see breaking the streak right now that people wouldn't crap all over is CM Punk.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2011 22:57:58 GMT -5
I'm one of the biggest DBD marks in the world, and I couldn't see it happening. I always find it funny how DBD's fans are stereotyped as wanting him to go over everyone, but the general reaction (as seen in this thread) seems to be, "Eh, as long as he's having good matches and winning a bit, who cares." This is personally all I want to see too. It wouldn't be any fun if he went on a losing streak again...but he doesn't need to win all the time. Also I think him ending Taker's streak would be pretty lame...at least as he is now.
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Post by saintpat on Mar 27, 2011 22:58:48 GMT -5
That's the best explanation I've seen. Done properly, a ham sandwich could be booked to look like a real and credible threat. And DBD does have the skill to put on a great match -- IMO to carry an aging Taker to a great match -- but as for winning, the reasons above make sense to me as why it would be impossible for me to buy it. But then who will break the ham sandwich's Wrestlemania streak? WMXXX: Taker vs. Sandwich, Streak vs. Streak. Talk about epic.
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Post by woodface on Mar 27, 2011 23:30:37 GMT -5
I hate this idea. Will make Danielson completely resented despite what a fantastic worker he is. There is more victory in defeat for him.
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Post by Porky's Butthole on Mar 27, 2011 23:36:08 GMT -5
That's the best explanation I've seen. Done properly, a ham sandwich could be booked to look like a real and credible threat. And DBD does have the skill to put on a great match -- IMO to carry an aging Taker to a great match -- but as for winning, the reasons above make sense to me as why it would be impossible for me to buy it. But then who will break the ham sandwich's Wrestlemania streak? Mashed potatoes.
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Post by Remix on Mar 27, 2011 23:39:40 GMT -5
And of course Mashed Potatos will be defeated by a T-Bone.
Streak vs Steak.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Mar 27, 2011 23:42:02 GMT -5
And of course Mashed Potatos will be defeated by a T-Bone. Streak vs Steak. T-Bone? Let's call him Koko.
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Post by Red Impact on Mar 27, 2011 23:49:58 GMT -5
EDIT: Other then maybe against Orton, I've yet to see a convincing argument as to why someone should end the streak. Because if they don't, it's 20 years of wasted build for a fast ticket to perpetual over-ness and sales? I don't think beating Taker would lead to perpetual overness. It'd be temporary and likely ignored in a few months. As for sales, I don't think it'd impact them in the slightest.
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Post by Citizen Zero on Mar 28, 2011 0:10:55 GMT -5
At this point the main argument I have against breaking the streak is that the bookers either can't or won't capitalize on it.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Mar 28, 2011 0:12:20 GMT -5
At this point the main argument I have against breaking the streak is that the bookers either can't or won't capitalize on it. You're right. It should be a career-defining moment and I don't think it would be.
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Post by noleafclover1980 on Mar 28, 2011 0:32:01 GMT -5
That's the best explanation I've seen. Done properly, a ham sandwich could be booked to look like a real and credible threat. And DBD does have the skill to put on a great match -- IMO to carry an aging Taker to a great match -- but as for winning, the reasons above make sense to me as why it would be impossible for me to buy it. But then who will break the ham sandwich's Wrestlemania streak? Matt Hardy, duh.
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Post by DSR on Mar 28, 2011 0:42:22 GMT -5
Can Taker win 2 matches in a row next Sunday and then retire, please?
End the streak, protect the streak, I'm just sick of hearing/reading about it.
Yeah, I know "No one's forcing you to read the thread." And if the title had "The Streak" in it, I wouldn't have. But it didn't, so here I am.
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Post by Summerfest on Mar 28, 2011 2:22:14 GMT -5
Are you kidding? 19-1, with Bryan making Taker tap out? The only way to top that big a heel turn is to have Cena do it!
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Post by Citizen Zero on Mar 28, 2011 2:31:31 GMT -5
Are you kidding? 19-1, with Bryan making Taker tap out? The only way to top that big a heel turn is to have Cena do it! I say run with it, if I were booking. Have him (Cena, DBD, whomever) come out on RAW the next night bragging about how he did the impossible, and start ragging on everyone who tried before him that failed. Have the whole arena screaming for his head. Unfortunately given what we've seen of the writers recently, I don't see something like that happening.
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